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jovial1 year, 5 months ago

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Well maybe the heartland is not really ready yet for a Black President. Many people say that racism is over. It's been over for some time. Look at this video and tell me what you think.

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  jordan111 year, 5 months ago
  
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  The "heartland" my fanny! These people don't represent the heart of this country. Bunch of damned fools.
  
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  nostalgia1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  "Well maybe the heartland is not really ready yet for a Black President."
  Painting with a pretty broad brush aren't you??
  Have you already forgotten Iowa??
  Only 2.5% of the population is Black and Obama won there
  Iowa is more "heartland" than WV
  
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    jovial1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    "Well maybe" isn't a definitive statement. I said that to stimulate the discussion. Did you take that statement as I was talking about you? Most people that discuss politics on these forums here on Propeller are adept at looking into a politicians views on the issues. Unlike the general population that latches on to buzz words like elitist or Muslim or cut and run or tax and spend. Talking about elitist, McCain rides around on his wife's private jet. Clinton is a millionaire. Are we supposed to think that any of the politicians now running for President aren't elitist? It's a ludicrous argument, but the people of America (some of them) don't take out the time to find out. Instead they confirm their prejudices and suspicions with buzzwords they hear on Fox news, Cnn, etc. and vote accordingly.
    
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  hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Frankly this video is a good example of american provincialism. Those who speak have been deprived of real information and analysis for so long that they are stuck in obsolete stereotypes that may make them feel "comfortable", but prevent them from even thinking about real problems and are damaging to their own future and that of our country.
  I consider that the issue of "racism" in this election is typical of how "leaders" create phony issues to augment their own personal power and profit. Basically this depends on "tribalism" and under the influence of corrupt politicians, the US seems to be as susceptible to this as anywhere else in the world.
  
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    hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    At the height of the war in the Balkans, I had a dear friend in Belgrade who in his small appartment had friends and family as refugees that were orthodox serbs, catholic croatians and moslem bosnians. All of them got along fine. It is corrupt leaders that create the "tribal divisions" - we have too many such corrupt polticians in the US trying to use "tribalism" for their own gain.
    
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    walden31 year, 5 months ago
    
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    You say that it's American provincialism, but you also say that the US is as susceptible as anywhere else in the world.
    Isn't that the truth, that people are people, and people from all countries and all religions and all backgrounds discriminate for all kinds of irrational reasons.
    
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    jimdoze1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Speaking of being "stuck in obsolete steretypes", hyperbole, how did you manage to get through these two paragraphs without a reference to "Right-wing zionists", "racist zionists" or "Zioncons"?
    
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  GLee1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  GO MOUNTAINEERS!!
  
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  Ciera-Marie1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I'm in the heartland and most of the blue collar workers, vets, and people I've run into will be voting for Obama.
  
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Beau78901 year, 5 months ago

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I think it's just depressing. No one interviewed could give a single valid reason--that is, a reason having to do with an issue that affects them--to vote for any of the candidates. Not even the ones who said they'd vote for Obama.

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  jovial1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  It is depressing indeed. To think that a child that grows up in this country with dark skin is going to be hated by a sizable part of this country based solely on his color is a tragedy.
  
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    jordan111 year, 5 months ago
    
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    You know, I've been poor too. But I've never been so stupid that words like those would come out of my mouth. I'm not depressed. I'm ******ed that people like that can vote, & screw up my country!
    
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  nostalgia1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  How much did Obama campaign in WV??
  He really didn't make much of an effort and was rewarded for his lack of attention to that state
  His campaign wrote them off
  
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    Beau78901 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Not much. But it's not the loss or even the size of it that bothers me--it's the way the voters talk (and I can assume, think)--about their choices.
    
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  MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  It is a depressing state filled with hillbillies.
  Their education system is abysmal, and (garbage)what you put in is (garbage) what you get out.
  The lord's gonna make their lives better!
  Ever see how many roadside crosses there are in W. Va.??
  (they have many unburnt ones left over)
  
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jovial1 year, 5 months ago

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It's not just West Virginia. In a related story from the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

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greenmac1 year, 5 months ago

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I was in Memphis in 1968 .... that was the first time I witnessed racism .... I didn't like it one bit and I have hated all my life. I fail to understand the racist mentality. Where does a person get the idea that they are superior to another based on race or color. In some parts of the world society has not evolved that much. I guess I can't judge everyone by a few.... but each of us should not sit quietly by when racism raises its ugly head. I don't care if it is a family member or close friend, let the person know if you think a remark or action is racist. One person at a time...one person at a time is my motto when it comes to fighting racism.

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  not2needy1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I agree GM, racism is uncalled for.
  
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  icono11 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Uncalled for but a fact of life.
  
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BronxBomber1 year, 5 months ago

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It's a dirty low-down shame that these bigoted knuckleheads can't judge a man by the content of his character instead of the color of his skin. I guess they're ignorance knows no bounds.

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  greenmac1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I hope these people are few and far between. As years go by these bigots are slowly disappearing. Though I would like to see it go away a much quicker pace.
  
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    MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    They are proof that man has a long way to go to evolve!
    these people are still living in the '60's, or even worse..The 1860's.
    
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Spadecaller1 year, 5 months ago

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And Clinton's proud of winning with these voters? This video depicts racism against people of color, bigotry towards all Muslims, and astounding ignorance.
I've experienced anti-Semitism and racism in many places and in many situations all around this country, and I have noticed that often it festers worse in specific areas.
Hopefully the next president will not need West Virginia to win the election, despite the fact that there are still a significan number of West Virginians that would support Obama despite the color of his skin and the idiotic rumors about his background.

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  jordan111 year, 5 months ago
  
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  And Clinton's proud of winning with these voters?>>>>
  Says a lot, doesn't it?
  
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    walden31 year, 5 months ago
    
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    And what about blacks that vote for Obama because he's black, or Jews that vote for Lieberman, or gals voting for Hillary, or q-tips voting for McCain. Is one form of discrimination worse then another.
    
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  jordan111 year, 5 months ago
  
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  The discussion is about the crap that came out of those voters mouths, not about your objections of Obama's politics. And as you brought up 'corruption' in the UN, might I suggest that you turn your concerns to the abject corruption right here with this administration, across the board? Why aren't you concerned about the BILLIONS in CASH sent to Iraq, and gone missing? If you pay taxes, that represents some of YOUR money. And you're worried about taxes? Good lord, lady, get a grip on reality, will ya?
  
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  bubba21 year, 5 months ago
  
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  What in heaven's name are you TALKING about?
  Where do you get that crap about medical care for babies and teaching sex to children and giving money to the corrupt UN (which, by the way, if you so vehemently hate to see, talk to YOUR CURRENT president that you so dearly love because we give money to the U.N. EVERY year)?
  And that "cut and run" crap is JUST that. It is a phrase invented by the neocons and means NOTHING, because there is NOTHING to "cut and run" from!
  The Iraqis are fighting EACH OTHER. They are trying to kill our troops because we won't get our troops OUT of there!
  The Iraqis WANT us OUT of their country. WE are not doing ANYTHING to make them "free"! We have SCREWED their country UP! There is little to no clean water, sanitation, electricity, medical care, doctors, schoolteachers, unemployment is at or over 50%, and the MORTALITY rate of children under 5 is the highest in Iraq's history.
  
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  MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  "cut and run"??? you're showing your age!
  
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  bubba21 year, 5 months ago
  
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  See my comment above ...
  It is APPALLING and the HEIGHT of stupidity that you still think that Bush has done no wrong, that Iraq is being "freed", that ANYTHING we are doing in Iraq is 'right', and that you would rather see your tax dollars being spent at the rate of TWO BILLION A DAY on an unjustified occupation instead of seeing it spent on helping AMERICANS.
  
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  MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  You're giving your money to the Iraquis and Hallibuton.
  By the way, the warlords that YOUR tax dollars are going to are real productive!
  Too bad you can't save a little to buy a book and educate yourself!
  4 more years of your compounded ignorance??..
  Is there no hope?
  
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