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SonOfTheMask1 year, 7 months ago

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FTA: The state high court's ruling was unlikely to end the debate over gay matrimony in California. A group has circulated petitions for a November ballot initiative that would amend the state Constitution to block same-sex marriage, and the Legislature has twice passed bills to authorize gay marriage. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed both.

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    Grrr1 year, 7 months ago
    
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    If the domestic partnership is legally contracted the same as what people consider a "traditional marriage", I fail to see the difference from marriage.
    
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      puffin1 year, 7 months ago
      
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      Yea yea, but traditional has nothing to do with it. It's the words "marriage", "marry", and in some instances even "marr", that define the legal terms. Partnerships don't have the same legal clout and don't come with the/some particular rights afforded to marriages.
      It's all in the terminology.
      
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        crghss1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Huh? Yes it does. A domestic partner carries the weight as a marriage.
        
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        david_nwpa1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Crghss, Domestic partnerships in theory are supposed to have the same weight or importance as marriage. Having said that, some hospitals and other entities treated domestic partners differently from married couples. The troubles exist throughout New Jersey, Connecticut and other states which have them. They are not the same as marriage, and are hence, separate but definitely not equal.
        
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        crghss1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        It all depends on the state. BUT, we could create a civil union that carries the same rights as a marriage. In the court of law we could establish a civil union as anything we want. But for some reason the Gay community won't accept this. It's marriage or nothing.
        
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        Tangent0011 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Well, if it's the same thing as marriage, why not call it marriage? Isn't that akin to calling a white's schooling 'education' and 'learning', but calling a black's schooling ONLY 'learning'?
        Straights can be civilly united and they can be married, while gays can only be civilly united. Do you not see the implicit discrimination there?
        
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        crghss1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Ah, no I don't. But all people should get a civil union from the Gov't and marriages should come from churches. If you can get the Church(or mosque or whatever)to marry you good for you.
        
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        Tangent0011 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Agreed. The civil portion is the realm of the state, the 'marriage' portion is the realm of the church or community.
        I think I misunderstood you a bit.
        
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        tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Works for me. That's the way it's done in Japan, a country with a few hundred years on us.
        
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        tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Guess we learned from our mistakes.
        
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        tweetie081 year, 7 months ago
        
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        There is no discrimination at all. This world was made for men and women to get married and not the same sex getting married. People of the same sex is letting the devil win and should learn to turn to God.
        
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        tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Everyone is free to turn to God or not, as that is the law of God and this country. Don't marry a man if you think it's wrong, but neither you nor your God has authority over my relationships, and our government shouldn't either.
        
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        Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        "There is no discrimination at all. This world was made for men and women to get married and not the same sex getting married. People of the same sex is letting the devil win and should learn to turn to God. "
        Maybe this is true for your hateful God. But for those of us that follow the example of Christ and the law of the Bible there is nothing that restricts people of the same sex getting married, just as there is nothing that speaks against people *being* homosexuals, just a specific act as outlined in Lev 20.
        So take your hateful God and go somewhere else where they allow you to legislate your religion and impose it on others. Remember, though, there may come a day when someone else can legislate their religion on your daily life.
        
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        hamy1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        How does this affect you? How does it harm your marriage? It doesn't unless you are gay so why does this bother you that I may have the same rights as you?
        
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        tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Yep. Because those discriminated against and their friends took to the streets and called out this country's conscience, and the courts listened. And then the President and the legislature listened, and then the Feds sent the National Guard to enforce equal treatment on the screaming and jeering people, WHETHER THEY WANTED IT OR NOT. Maybe we all need to take a lesson here.
        
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        tweetie081 year, 7 months ago
        
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        your a baby blocking my message
        
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        david_nwpa1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Ah, name calling will get you nowhere with this crowd. Try another strategy.
        
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        hamy1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Seperate is not equal.
        
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        MajJohn1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        Can a domestic partner be forced to testify against her partner in court? I believes so. As a minister or JP can you be sued for refusing to marry a same sex couple? Will you be sued for honoring your own beliefs? Do you have the freedom of association.? So much for the legal weight.
        Moral weight, does the state have a moral interest, it seldom does, only a legal interest. This issue is far from over, the initiative to put it to a vote will allow this issue to fester. And then will the court honor the will of the people? Probably not, since it's ruled against such initiatives in the past.
        Should the court be deciding that a terminology somehow denotes a difference or really look to see if discrimination exists? If there is no discrimination, the court should not be legislating from the bench, but what can you expect from such progressive bastions as California and Massachusetts.
        
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        tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        In Virginia if a man and a woman shack up for 20 yrs, they get classified as MARRIED under Common Law.
        
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    mesodude1 year, 7 months ago
    
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    What is this creepy obsession you have with welfare recipients? Did someone you know whose on welfare today bully you at recess when you were a kid? ;-(
    
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      not2needy1 year, 7 months ago
      
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      I think he must have been raised on welfare, never enough of anything, now he gripes about it adnauseam.
      
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  SonOfTheMask1 year, 7 months ago
  
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  The usual losers negging my comment even though all I did was quote from the article. Figures.
  
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    Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
    
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    You shouldnt take stuff liek that personal SonOf.
    Maybe what they are sayin is they simply dont agree with the content of the artikal.
    I myself get negged ALL the tiem by certain members.
    For instance, LibsRfunny follows me around endlessly givin me negs --- followed by DropKickaLib.
    I say ... Be strong ... just liek your grandfather would wish for you Loki.
    
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  mark-stevens1 year, 7 months ago
  
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  People that are against same sex marriage are not "Christians" they're just self centered jerks. Why isn't there an out rage against adultry. That has ruined the meaning of marriage more than all the homosexual weddings could ever do!!
  
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    tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
    
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    Mark! Shut up! You're ruining the distraction! LOL
    
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