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ningyo1 year, 7 months ago
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the practical answer is yes, of course ,we have a finite planet with finite resources..but then the question is where is the line on the slippery slope..is 5 billion OK..probably..is 50 billion OK..no-way..so where is the cut-off..23 billion??9billion??for that reason much like abortion it's a specious question..population grows till starvation and/or war makes a cap..life begins at conception or the 91st day..you believe what you want to believe..its a question of faith
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Bkumm1 year, 7 months ago
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Hate to break it to you, but seawater is a finite resource. So is the amount of surface area of the planet.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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Locky, even if the energy is technically infinite, it is not actually all usable. For more reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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I see... I was unaware the Law of Entropy was an opinion. Perhaps you should tell the physicists of the world? They'd certainly love to hear it... you could revolutionize the field of thermodynamics!
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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Too many people- yes!
People procreating like a bunch of rabbits is just selfish and I can't think of one good reason why any responsible person in this day and age would think it was a good idea to have a lot of kids. There are so many unwanted children that need a good home as it is, so if it's because you love children, and you have the means, please take a child who needs a home.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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They think like me??? wow! how do you figure that? do you think by 'crowding' out Muslims with WASP children that would solve the problems of Muslims taking over Europe???
I'm pretty sure that the reasons Muslim are taking over Europe is not because WASPS are not procreating as much.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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I know there would be many issues surrounding any kind of 'forced' birth control and or obtaining a license to have children, but hey you need a license to do all kinds of things, some not even that important, having and raising a child is one of the most important things in life....I say have a license and a limit. I have 1 child and that was by choice. No abortions by choice and always birth control also my choice. If people can't/won't take responsibility for their actions...well....
I know or at least I feel it sounds terrible to think this, but I don't have any problems with people to the age of 18 being made to have birth control-all over the world.
I also don't have any problems with allowing the elderly 'go peacefully' if they want to. If they wanted they could get all their affairs in order, have a party- whatever, but it would be their own choice. Same with a terminally ill person.
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BigTrevy1 year, 7 months ago
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There is no justification for abortion, euthanasia, or oral abortificents * for fornication
* (they're not contraception, they murder the conceived child)
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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locky12-NEVER once have I ever mentioned forced Euthanasia in any positive way and I also said IF an elderly or terminally ill person should want to 'go' they should have that CHOICE.
I know there are many questions, 'what ifs'if there was a way to have forced BC and a license, was just giving my opinion, it's how I feel. I don't have the answers to solve this problem, and neither do you or anyone else or there wouldn't be any problem. Of course some don't think there is any problem with over population in the first place...that's their opinion.
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memestryker1 year, 7 months ago
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lvrofwolves, you are one of those rare people who is willing to do what it takes to get the job done with compassion.
Studies show the healthiest babies are born to women between the ages of 22 and 28, and this range is also the best for maternal health. We know so much today that we can use to improve individuals' lives as well as do what's best for the planet.
Elliot Jacques found that people operate at different strata based on things like cognitive ability, and those at the higher strata are able to make tough decisions that ultimately solve big problems. I suggest you operate at a much higher stratum than the average citizen.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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Thank-you, I myself made a personal choice to have 1 child (I had a step child as well that I raised since he was 9mo) and I raised my Son to take total responsibility for birth control, told them they should choose when and if they want children and also they best make darn sure they can support a child.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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I respectfully submit that a "license" will not work. People will always have sex... with or without birth control and birth control is not 100% effective (I was conceived while my mother was on the pill myself). Thus, people will always conceive without a license for such. Do you intend to force an abortion on this person? That, my friend, is immoral and rightfully so. I recognize no force, be it God or the needs of the many, to have the authority to tell you what to do with your own body. The answer is rather obvious if difficult to implement in ways. Firstly a powerful public campaign, phrased in suggestions, to limiting the number of children you have and use of birth control. Secondly, as the author suggested, make birth control available throughout the world. Reproduction rights of the woman. Lastly, and the most difficult of them would be to educate the people of third and second world countries. It would be more effective in the end.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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In some countries it may be more effective to do as China has done. Despite my own belief that this is an infringement upon the rights of the citizen, if it works for China they should go for it. However, I question, does it work? I think I read somewhere, maybe in this very article, that rural China had a rapidly expanding population. Is this immigration from urban China or is it reproduction, as this article seems to be insinuating (why else include that if its about rising population of the world?).
"The places where population is growing fastest Ã;¢;; sub-Saharan Africa, rural China and Bangladesh"
is FTA. That seems to suggest that a limit doesn't really solve the issue, at least not everywhere. Glad I remembered where I read it.
The clear solution is a multi-faceted approach concentrating on sexual education and availability of birth control. I disagree with the author's term of "anti-Vatican". I think pro-life would be better.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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Another solution is recognition of the rights of homosexuals to marry and raise children. Or another facet to my above solution, which will not be achieving critical mass for awhile yet (call me an optimist when it comes to human ingenuity). While medical science is making it possible for homosexuals to reproduce now this does not mean all of them will choose to do so. This could provide an opportunity to create family units that will not actually be adding to the over-population through adoption. Another facet would, of course, be to allow for the terminally ill to die, if they wish. I feel I have no right to decide this for them. All of this combined together could be significant in the battle against over-population. It also wouldn't infringe upon anyone's rights. Another aspect would be to simply encourage adoption, as well.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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That's true birth control isn't always 100% effective, for many it is tho, like myself for more then 25yrs. A drivers license isn't 100% effective in car accidents, but it sure does help. Can you imagine if nobody had a license or training?
I would never agree with any forced abortions, tho I am pro choice, I am not pro abortion. Like I said there are many 'ifs' and I don't think anyone will solve this problem 100% but they sure as heck can start making more responsible choices. Most teens do not make mature choices, their brains are still growing, so until their brains match up with the maturity of their bodies, I wouldn't have any problems with 'forced' BC.
when I was in school, maybe 3 girls got pregnant (don't know how many may have had abortions) but now days one school in my area has like 28% of the girls are pregnant from jr. high -high school. That's horrible.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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I don't recognize the right of people to tell a woman what to do with her body regarding whether they can or can't reproduce any more then I recognize the right for anyone to tell a woman she can't have an abortion. Like I said, the most effective strategy is educational campaigns, availability of birth control and allowing children to obtain birth control without parental permission... possibly free of charge. I don't recognize the right of government to force this issue anymore then I respect the right of the government to outlaw abortion. Its an issue of privacy.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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I agree to a point, but the point I was trying to make above is, tho they may have the body of a woman, they are children, not even old enough to enter into a legal contract, or to drink, smoke, vote, some not even to drive. We can do something about children having children, just telling them not to do it sure as heck isn't working.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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To be honest I don't accept the state's right to determine whether a child must use birth control, either. That is up to the parent to enforce, not the state. However, I do support making it publicly available free of charge without parental permission.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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Locky, you might want to look into some definitions. I actually agree with your premise in many respects, new discoveries are made every day, but that does not equate to infinite resources. It equates to infinite ingenuity!
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