Marriage Equality Bill Introduced in Minnesota »
Posted By Neophile 1 year, 5 months ago in StyleThe Marriage and Family Protection Act was introduced by Rep. Phyllis Kahn, DFL-Minneapolis, and Sen. John Marty, DFL-Roseville, on Friday. The bill would make marriage a gender-neutral proposition in Minnesota, allowing same-sex couples to marry.
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Poulenc1 year, 5 months ago
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Love the appropriation represented by the bill's name: The Marriage and Family Protection Act.
In re gay marriage, the motor has begun to accelerate. And, really, it's just a matter of time until people look back on resistance to its legalization as we do now on those who were anti-suffrage. Or against allowing people of different races to wed.
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Spadecaller1 year, 5 months ago
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NoWayMan1 year, 5 months ago
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I'm all for any couple who wants to get married, and of course gay marriage is inevitable since its a civil rights issue.
but I fear that its a mistake to bring this out right now in terms of the big picture. this will do more to rally the far right conservative base than anything McCain could ever do or say. obama would be smart to simply say its up to the states and leave it at that.
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NoWayMan1 year, 5 months ago
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"how long should we wait?"
until november. until the moment after obama wins.
with obama in the white house and a dem majority in either the house or senate, there won't be any federal roadblock for any action taken by any states that want to legalize gay marriage. there won't be any talk about constitutional amendments, etc.
then you'll have a positive domino effect. and then, in ten years maybe when the US hasn't fallen into the pits of hell for granting gays the same rights as everyone else, we'll all look back and say how dumb it was to ban gay marraige in the first place.
but if McCain wins, you'll be asking "if not now, when?" for the next ten years.
this must be played with a long term strategy in mind.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 5 months ago
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"Marriage equality" in this context is a marketing term, no different than "pro-life" or "pro-choice".
It is employed to generate sympathy for a particular viewpoint.
The reality is that marriage has been and should remain an institution defined by each state according to its legislature. If the state's constitution defines marriage as a status to be provided to one man and one woman, then marriage "equality" would be interpreted in that context. Namely, each person is equally able to marry one person of the opposite gender.
This viewpoint is exactly how the New York Supreme Court viewed that state's definition of marriage.
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Coatl1 year, 5 months ago
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Perhaps the point here is why do people want to get married. If love, lust, desire or legal recognition of a personal relationship is the answer, then there is no real equality in marriage, since gay people wouldn't want to marry someone of the opposite gender anymore that I would want to marry someone of my own gender. It would be somethig like saying that there is freedom of religion since you're free to choose only between to be Sunni or Shia.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 5 months ago
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scott42611 year, 5 months ago
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One thing many on the right simply cannot wrap their heads around is the fact that one of the precepts underlying the Constitution is that the tyranny of the majority cannot trounce on the rights of the minority (but then, they also don't get that the writ of habeas corpus is a fundamental founding ideal that our Founding Fathers took from the Magna Carta and is a bedrock principle of our democracy).
Sorry to get so cerebral here, but I just don't understand what people don't get. If I choose to marry another man, that is MY business. And we should have all the rights and privileges of any straight married couple.
That is how I see it.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 5 months ago
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The issue of civil marriage is not a private matter. Civil marriage is legal construct between three parties: the two getting married and the state. Thus, the state has a compelling interest in the matter.
What IS a private matter is with whom you choose to consort and/or engage in sex with them.
There is a distinct difference.
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david_nwpa1 year, 5 months ago
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SOTM, people marry daily and yet they do not necessarily have sex. Should the sterile be denied marriage? In theory, people on death row can wed prior to their execution, but the gay couple who has loved one another for 5 decades is denied? Your principles are simply warped, period!
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kedirian1 year, 5 months ago
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Enlightenment has still quite a ways to go, but sooner rather than later the Christian's movement to then amend state constitutions and thus ensure their ancient belief is forced again on the overal population will be seen for what it is: a product of mean thinking, fear for the unknown, and the lack of generosity to let their fellow citizens live in mutual affection regardless of their ability to "bring forth children".
And in these days when the effects of Global warming - as a result of overpopulation and destruction of natural habitat - are evident from the midwest to Asia, it is clear that the old "dogma" is, in fact, against Nature.
Let Nature take its course, as observed among homosexual humans and animals, and we will find that same-sex relations are a necessary and valid brake on sacramentalized and unrestrained procreation with all the deleterious affects we are seeing all around us!
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ETproductions1 year, 5 months ago
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I've been married to the same woman for 32 years. But my attitude is it's no business of mine who somebody else wants to form a relationship with.
If the American people really want to write into the constitution a prohibition against homosexual marriage, fine. But don't claim that it isn't discrimination. It's no different than the anti-miscegenation laws of the past. It creates to separate and entirely unequal classes of people.
And I utterly reject the silly argument that permitting gay marriage will turn everybody gay. Baloney. My sexual orientation has NOTHING to do with the law of the land. I knew what it was before I had any idea what gay even meant.
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Mdiar1 year, 5 months ago
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I hope that California's Supreme Court decision opens a flood gate of pro-gay marriage legislation. I'd prefer the legislation to the court decisions, or both if possible, to have both the judicial precedent and the laws in the record. I met a guy sometime last year and I think I may love him. Not really talked to him about those feelings for him though, at least I know he also likes guys and has admitted attraction for me. Oh well, I guess I'll see what happens in a few years. In no rush whatsoever to fall in love completely with anyone!
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Shadowolf1 year, 5 months ago
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...what gets me, is the hatemongers always attempt to de-humanize those in disagreement...it is slowly getting to the point where the majority of people are starting to recognize this tactic for what it is anti-Christian HATE...
Look, if David wanted to marry a cousin of mine, that's between THEM...it ONLY becomes my biz if they have a big fight at my place...or have my chair reupholstered without asking me...(KIDDING!!!)
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