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Posted By RickyDawkins 1 year, 5 months ago in Arts & EntertainmentUnfortunately, not everybody is as thrilled as we are about the recent Supreme Court decision.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago
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Gay marriage should be just as good as heterosexual marriage.
I know some homosexuals who are 'married' not legally of course, which is a shame considering they do just about everything everyone else does. Go buy rings, have a ceremony, receptions with family and friends, buy or rent a home,pay taxes, vote, work, care and love one another, often times bringing in their children, celebrating holidays with family and friends, buying pets etc, etc, etc.......the only thing I can see that is different is they are the same gender.
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tanglang1 year, 5 months ago
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You may think it is right, but it is not A right. A big argument that I hear quite often from gays on tv as to why they should be allowed to marry is tax and insurance benefits. Here is my opinion on that. Insurance, fine. Everyone should be allowed to insure their families, partners, kids hell, even friends. If one of my friends is out of work and I want to add them to my private insurance, so be it. I pay for it.
My other opinion is that the federal government should not give marriage tax breaks to couples who are not capable of reproducing and therefore not contributing to society in the same way as hetero families do. Shd they be allowed to adopt? Maybe. I feel children are better off with two parents of opposite sex so I am undecided there. Should they be given tax breaks for adopting and raising a kid? Sure, why not? The feds should give breaks to anyone raising a child so that person has more money to invest in said child. Just my thoughts.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 5 months ago
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Well. I'm not a gay basher. For all are loved by God.
I don't think homosexuality is right, as well as I don't believe that adultery or fornication is right. As I have been guilty of fornication and adultery in the past I cast no stones. I repented and have been forgiven, how can I do less than what was done for me.
Still I believe marriage is between a man and a woman.
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smithichie1 year, 5 months ago
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"Still I believe marriage is between a man and a woman".
Some still believe marriage is for only those of the same so called 'race', making it legal didn't force people to change their belief system if they didn't want to, nobody was forced into marrying anyone they didn't want to and nobody's marriage lessened in value.
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Harbeas1 year, 5 months ago
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Whether you believe in gay marriage or not(I don't). the real issue is the courts nullifying a vote by the people. This whole issue of gay marriage should be determined by each individual state and not the courts or the federal government.
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memestryker1 year, 5 months ago
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Harbeas,
Why should a government involve itself in sexual orientation? It's nobody's business but the couple's. This doesn't hurt anyone for two people to love each other.
Gays have had to live on the fringes for a long time. I think it's about time we invited them into the community circle.
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hamy1 year, 5 months ago
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If the people of California held a vote that outlawed women with long hair, what do you think the women with long hair would do? They would go to the courts to try and tell the people that the law they voted for is illegal due to discrimination.
Same thing.
The majority cannot grant or deprive rights to a minority. Otherwise, why would any of us be here? If any of us can suddenly bring forth a list of names on a petition that can take away the rights of the rest of us, then what is the point?
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Harbeas1 year, 5 months ago
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Yes, we might still have had slavery in a few states for a few more years. But hundreds of thousands of men would not have died in the process. Was the civil way really worth that many lives. That's bs that slavery would still be around today. With differnt judges the vote might have gone the other way. I disagree with the discrimination aspect. How can you be discriminated against when a gay can marry any woman he wants. That's how marriage is defined. A union between a man and a woman. Gays do not meet that definition. Yes, I know the gay community would like to change that definition, but the last time I looked it had not been changed.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago
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Yes, we might still have had slavery in a few states for a few more years. But hundreds of thousands of men would not have died in the process. Was the civil way really worth that many lives.
Harbeas- am I getting what I think I'm getting from this comment you made???
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canadianrancher571 year, 5 months ago
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I didn't check out the story but I would like to comment.
There will always be mixed feelings about gay marragiage until a point in time where all people who have religious beliefs accept the gay community and its members, I still keep hearing people say that they are willing to forgive people for being homosexual but it is not a matter of forgiving them it is a matter of accepting them. The revolution has started in some churches but how many of us out here were told as children that being gay was wrong and refuse to accept. Most of the road blocks against gay marraige are a result of there not being a separation of church and state.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago
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canadianrancher, there probably always will be some who don't approve, just as there are still some who don't approve of blacks and whites marrying each other.
willing to forgive someone for being gay, now that's a hoot! what do they need forgiveness for?
Even if one doesn't accept them, that's their choice, but nobody should be allowed to discriminate or violate any of their rights.
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RickyDawkins1 year, 5 months ago
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Marriage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbqv3MwwVd8
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nikkibabe1 year, 5 months ago
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Gays and Lesbian weddings are far more peaceful and does not cost the US Government anything when compared to invading and occupying a muslim country and spend $1 trillion. It is better than torturing prisoners, it is better than outing the identity of a covert CIA operative. It will not increase the price of gas, food etc., It will not lead us to home foreclosures, not lead others in to bankruptcies.
In other words, it is harmless and no one has to suffer if two people decide to get together peacefully.
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Hobe1 year, 5 months ago
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Mixed Feelings About Gay Marriage in California?
'In fact, if society stood by your "traditions" black people would be worth 3/5 of a human, and women would not be voting. Furthermore, the races would not intermingle.'
Is it fair to say, comments like this, that try to use two completely differently situations are very Insulting to the principles? What a disgrace?
If a HoMosexual man and a HoMosexual Woman want to marry for whatever their reason, that is their choice. Just like a woman's right to choose to abort her baby. One may ask, why would any potential Mother want to Kill her baby? It may be inhumane but it's the Law.
One may ponder on why HoMosexuals and Abortionist choose specific behavior, but, it should be their choice...
Mental Health Counseling should be available and in some cases may be recommended.
HoMosexuals should and must have the same rights as all Americans....
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Hobe1 year, 5 months ago
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Mixed Feelings About Gay Marriage in California?
'In fact, if society stood by your "traditions" black people would be worth 3/5 of a human, and women would not be voting. Furthermore, the races would not intermingle.'
Is it fair to say, comments like this, that try to use two completely differently situations are very Insulting to the principles? What a disgrace?
If a HoMosexual man and a HoMosexual Woman want to marry for whatever their reason, that is their choice. Just like a woman's right to choose to abort her baby. One may ask, why would any potential Mother want to Kill her baby? It may be inhumane but it's the Law.
One may ponder on why HoMosexuals and Abortionist choose specific behavior, but, it should be their choice...
Mental Health Counseling should be available and in some cases may be recommended.
HoMosexuals should and must have the same rights as all Americans..
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Butter_Fly1 year, 5 months ago
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I have family members and have many current friends now that are gay/lesbian or even Bi... I do not agree with it, but on the same side it's true, we all commit sin, and in God's eyes a sin is a sin, so a murderer is just as bad as an adulterer. With this said, my problem is that as a society do we not judge and ok same sex marriage, which they do deserve to love just as opposite sex marriages, or do we follow normal heterosexual conscience and not accept it??? I am torn in two mindsets, I understand where both are going....
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Mdiar1 year, 5 months ago
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The issue, Butter, is that marriage at a legal level has nothing to do with religion. If it did then you wouldn't be married by a Judge... such a thing would be impossible, it would have to be a priest. Marriage in the United States is a religious sacrament only if you wish it to be and the religion you are part of is willing to make it one, as well. Its one of the few cut and dry issues out there... no real reason exists to not have same sex marriage. It will cut down on AIDs as monogamous relationships would be easier to maintain and a large segment of the population would be happier for it.
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TrueProgressive1 year, 5 months ago
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All you creeps of the right don't get it. Certain rights are "inalienable," meaning the majority cannot vote them away. Equal protection is one of those rights. In 1964, the California Supreme Court overturned a law that allowed racial discrimination in real estate transactions. The "people" promptly responded with an initiative restoring the law. It won by over 2/3. The Supreme Court invalidated the initiative, reasoning the majority cannot vote away a distinct minority group's right to equal protection under the laws. The USSC affirmed. THIS IS THE SAME SITUATION! Gays form a distinct minority whose right to marry, an accepted fundamental right, is being infringed upon for no valid reason, except pure bigotry. Note: This means you Global Warmer. You've been warming your head way too long. All the cheap a** rationalizations advanced here to oppose gay marriage were the same cheap a** excuses flung up to block racial civil rights. Same as it ever was.
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