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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 7 months ago
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Ivrowolves:
We are all tempted by something. There are people who just don't like other people and are violent toward them. Should assault and batery be OK? What about those who prefer sex with children? They think it perfectly normal. What about the drunks who feel it's OK for them to get drunk and drive. They are just expressing what they feel is right.
I mean everyone has something that is not what society says is the norm. Where do you draw the line.
See if you allow one you have to start allowing the others or the people claim they are being discriminatd against. Hell why even have laws at all then.
Just let everyone do what they feel is right.
Not trying to pick on you or anyone else. I just wonder where do you draw the line?
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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cowboygrandpa-assault, battery,having sex with children, drunks driving drunk is against the law because of the potential of harming someone or their property, all those are hurting others. How is homosexuality hurting others?
To answer your question-I draw the line when what you do hurts another.
Ms and Ms. so and so ,or Mr.and Mr. so and so getting married to each other doesn't hurt me or anyone else or infringed on any rights.
As a consenting adult, why should I be allowed to enjoy the right to marry the person I love and am attracted to just because I was born a heterosexual? and 2 consenting adult homosexuals..because they are born homosexual, they are not to enjoy that same right? no...that's wrong.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 7 months ago
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Ivrowolves:
Then homosexuality should be outlawed. Aids is spread and affects the community of homosexuals more than anyone. It is an epidemic. It is causing the death of millions world wide. It takes the lives of children, mothers and many who become infected.
People are not born homosexual, they may have that tendency but they are not hard wired that way. Now I may receive some heat for this. That is OK. I'm not judging I'm stating an opinion.
I don't hate homosexuals nor do I condone them. For neither is my job.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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propeller is really screwing around if this shows up twice-sorry!
That's right, it's your opinion, if it was FACT I'd really like to see the evidence that all people are born heterosexual.
About Aids- so...what about pre AIDS? homosexuality has been here throughout time. what about other disorders or diseases that primarily attack certain people? should we 'outlaw' those races as well?
I don't believe you hate homosexuals, I just don't think you have tried to be empathetic. Try and imagine as a heterosexual man, most people tell you that it is wrong to be attracted to women, to fall in love and want to be with them (one) for the rest of your life. But that ever since you can remember you've been attracted to women and you've never harmed a fly, you're a good law abiding citizen just like most others, but sorry- because you are attracted to women you cannot enjoy the same rights that homosexuals enjoy.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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sorry if this shows up more then once!
That's right, it's your opinion, if it was FACT I'd really like to see the evidence that all people are born heterosexual.
About Aids- so...what about pre AIDS? homosexuality has been here throughout time. what about other disorders or diseases that primarily attack certain people? should we 'outlaw' those races as well?
I don't believe you hate homosexuals, I just don't think you have tried to be empathetic. Try and imagine as a heterosexual man, most people tell you that it is wrong to be attracted to women, to fall in love and want to be with them (one) for the rest of your life. But that ever since you can remember you've been attracted to women and you've never harmed a fly, you're a good law abiding citizen just like most others, but sorry- because you are attracted to women you cannot enjoy the same rights that homosexuals enjoy.
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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They have tried to prove that there is a gene that caused Homosexuality. All they found was a gene that had a higher percentage in the homosexual population than the heterosexual population.
What did that prove? Nothing.
Therefore there is no evidence that people are born homosexual. The evidence says just the opposite. They become it by choice or psychological reasons stemming from their experience in life..
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quackpot1 year, 7 months ago
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There is considerable evidence to show that homosexuality is a multigenic trait.
As a multigenic trait, one would not expect to find a single gene. Rather, one would use association studies and sib-pair studies to find genes that predispose.
As you have stated, such genes have been identified.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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Endoscopy- so at any given moment I guess you think you yourself could decide to be a homosexual? and I'm not just saying having a one time sexual encounter, but love and be attracted to the same sex. wow! I think that is a great feat!!!
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david_nwpa1 year, 7 months ago
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You don't hate gays, but you think we are not born this way. You hypocritical fool. Were you born straight? Were you hardwired that way? If so, then how is it so difficult for you to accept that all people are born exactly the way they are intended to be born. Your hatred for gays is masked and probably more harmful to the LGBT community than those that attack us outright. You do hate gays, but you hide you try to hide it. Spare us.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 7 months ago
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david nwpa:
No I don't hate gays. You are welcome to your own opinion.
I grew up around a family member that was gay. Never hated him. He made the choice as he also went with women. He just decided he preferred men. He switched back and forth. But in the end he decided he preferred men. That is what I have based my opinion on.
So feel free to hate all you please. It is you who are the hypocrite to me. You think you know me without knowing didley squat.
I have never attacked the gay community for it choices. Yet you would attack me. My statement that homosexuality should be outlawed then was based on the premise on the disease that is spread by it.
If you had bothered to read some of my other posts, you would have found I have defended the right of the gay people not to be judged by man.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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so...you've based your entire evidence that homosexuals choose to be gay on 1 person?
I don't feel you hate gays cowboygrandpa, but I do feel you do not understand and therefore you have uneducated opinions, which a lot of people have, including myself at one time about homosexuals.
Do you recall when you decided to be heterosexual?
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 7 months ago
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Ivrowolves:
No not just on one person. I have spoken with some who have chosen to be gay and some who say they are born that way. I just wonder who are the honest ones here.
As I've said the family member used to brings his partners around. I'd speak with them and get to learn a little about them. I'd say about 60% percent said they had been with women but just preferred men.
I didn't understand it and still don't. But that is their choice. BTW the family member died of AIDs' in the 90's. I didn't think it was right for those of the family who didn't show up to the funeral because he was gay. He was and still is a part of our family in my mind.
As far as deciding to be heterosexual. I guess when I was five years old and chasing the girl across the street for kisses. LOL We chased each other back and forth all summer long. Besides I have always enjoyed the womens bodies it never seemed like a choice. More like it is just natural, they have the right connections.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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CBG- just as it seems natural to you, and at 5yrs old I'm sure you didn't know or understand that girls had the right 'connections' and it was not a choice to be heterosexual, I believe it's the same for homosexuals.
While it's true anyone can choose to have a sexual encounter with same or opposite sex, that sex act does not determine who you really are. I could if I choose to have sex with another woman, might even be enjoyable, but that wouldn't make me a lesbian because I love and am attracted to men, therefore I choose to have sex with men ( that probably doesn't sound right but you know what I mean I hope)
well anyhow, I didn't make the choice to be heterosexual, I sure glad I am tho because I wouldn't like to put up with all the crap some homosexuals have to deal with and I still don't think it's fair that I'm afforded certain rights because I was born heterosexual, and homosexuals are not getting all the same rights. I don't understand how anyone can think that's fair.
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hamy1 year, 7 months ago
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AIDS is a disease and does not choose which community it infects. Granted in THIS country is was first contracted and spread through the gay community and the IV drug community because that is the nature of this particular disease. But worldwide your statistics do not hold up. It is far bigger concern to the straight community in countries like South Africa where 1 in 5 people are infected with HIV.
Please do not continue to give lip service to these lies. It is not caused by homosexuals so do not try to blame me for AIDS deaths worldwide. Blame the people who did nothing to stop it while my friends were dying. Reagan and Bush Sr. did more to cause the spread of HIV and deaths from AIDS than anyone just by doing nothing.
I don't care if you hate me or condone me. Just give me the same rights as you have or let me stop paying taxes to support your families.
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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Many diseases are spread by certain human behavior. There is a group of diseases that are "Sexually Transmitted Diseases" STD's for short. HIV is one of these. Since it requires transmission of fluid from one person to another it is very hard for a man to get it from a woman. Homosexual behavior of men spread the disease to epidemic proportion among the homosexual men. Part of that behavior is the going from one sexual partner to another very quickly.
To stop the spread of the disease requires one very simple change of behavior that has been known from the beginning of this disease. It would also stop all other STD's. A monogamous relationship. Stop the hopping from partner to partner.
Starting with the first known carrier the people getting this disease kept having relations with other partners knowing they were sentencing them to death.
Some were or became addicts and then it spread by dirty needles.
In Africa it is spread by bisexual men who then infect many women.
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hamy1 year, 7 months ago
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That is a lot of not very true crap. Please stop spreading these lies and go to a sex education clinic to learn the truth.
Bi-sexual men didn't spread AIDS in Africa. It was hookers. And it is very easy for a man to get HIV from a woman. In fact, just as easy as it is to get it from any risky behavior.
There is just as much promiscuity in the straight population. You really are obsessed with gay sex aren't you? It must be all that occupies your feeble mind. I don't think about straight sex at all because it disgusts me.
And you are talking about one person who slept with people without precautions after he found out he had an incurable STD but remember, we didn't know what it was.
And the fact that AIDS gets any funding at all is fully due to the gay community. If it wasn't for us, all of the straight kids who are now contracting HIV would be dead.
You should thank us since we were the only ones fighting to save people's lives.
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david_nwpa1 year, 7 months ago
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Several flaws exist with your reasoning. First, you are suggesting that gays are tempted. Aren't straight people also tempted? Without relying on religion, what makes your way right and being gay wrong? Who made you the person to decide that? Second, drinking and driving is illegal because it brings an immediate harm to society. People are killed daily as a result of a poor choice (drinking followed by operating a 2,000 pound bullet). Being gay is not something one does by choice. As for children being involved, since when have children been a primary objective for marriage? If they were, then the elderly should not be given marriage licenses.
This is not a slippery slope argument as you imply. In fact, if society stood by your "traditions" black people would be worth 3/5 of a human, and women would not be voting. Furthermore, the races would not intermingle.
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memestryker1 year, 7 months ago
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cg,
Same sex couples don't hurt anyone. I've had a couple of bosses and several coworkers and members of churches I've attended who were gay, and they and their partners were good people and treated others well.
There is a lot of evidence that most gay people were wired that way. For some it may be a choice or a phase. The science isn't complete. We know from studies that some (not all) people in harems and prison relieve sexual tension with same-sex sexual activity.
You may have religious reasons, and I would only suggest that even if you just use the basis of religious freedom, there is no reason to hate gays or even be concerned about if you aren't one.
Think about more marriage tax in the coffers.
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