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Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 5 months ago in Science & Technology

A new NASA-led study shows human-caused climate change has made an impact on a wide range of Earth's natural systems, including permafrost thawing, plants blooming earlier across Europe, and lakes declining in productivity in Africa.

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    jordan111 year, 5 months ago

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    It will be interesting to see the spin of naysayers on this one.

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    quackpot1 year, 5 months ago

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    Studies such as this AND the current cost of petroleum are TWO good reasons for promoting large increases in energy conservation.

    --Rethinking car size

    --Rethinking the increased cost of energy efficient auto designs

    --Rethinking the distance between work and home

    --Rethinking mass transit options

    --Rethinking the Nation's rail system vs highway system for hauling goods

    --Rethinking temperatures inside of buldings (why do executives need to wear coats in the summer?)

    --Rethinking the cost of improving energy conservation in older as well as new buildings.

    The nation also needs to increase the amount spent on energy research and development.

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      Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 5 months ago

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      This would inconvenience the fat pigs rolling in personal profits at expense of 99% of the people in the world!

      We can't have that!

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        Ciera-Marie1 year, 5 months ago

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        quackpot I would like to add to you list windows on new homes that are being built. Or installing windows, energy efficent ones, to reduce energy costs. Insultating ones home (you don't the traditional pink fiberglass either.).

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          quackpot1 year, 5 months ago

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          I agree, ciera; that was supposed to be part of my last item.

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          texasphotoman1 year, 5 months ago

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          If they would move that warehouse closer to my home then I would no have to drive so far. I guess tother would make up the difference in what I save.

          The train cares goods to the places the tracks go. They have pulled up miles of tracks to the rural area. Only will put a train at an grain port where they can load at least 100 cars. Alot of farm grain ports don't have that capacity.

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            quackpot1 year, 5 months ago

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            yep - time to rethink the nations transportation system prehaps!

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          tchef1 year, 5 months ago

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          As I have said all along, whether or not we are causing global warming we should do everything we can to cut our pollution simply because it's the right thing to do. Not to mention our energy usage.

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            RickyDawkins1 year, 5 months ago

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            Humans ARE causing Global Warming!

            "Human-generated climate change made flowers bloom sooner and autumn leaves fall later, turned some polar bears into cannibals and some birds into early breeders, a vast global study reported on Wednesday.

            Hundreds of previous studies have noted these specific changes and most suggested a link to so-called anthropogenic global warming, but a new analysis published in the journal Nature correlated these earlier studies with changes in temperature, the study's lead author said."

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/...

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              tchef1 year, 5 months ago

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              I'm not saying that we are or aren't causing it. I tend to believe we are but I'm a chef I don't know. What I am saying is that we should be taking the necessary steps to cut our green house gases because either way it's good for us and the environment.

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                RickyDawkins1 year, 5 months ago

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                Maybe it's time to ketchup?

                http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/c...

                http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/...

                "We know exactly where the added CO2 is coming from, and it most certainly is from human activity (mostly the burning of fossil fuels, but some is from industry and slash-and-burn deforestation for agriculture). Carbon has two stable isotopes (atomic weights), C12 and C13. Plants prefer to use C12 over C13, so the naturally occurring ratio of the two isotopes is skewed toward C12 in plants. All fossil fuels were originally plants, and so if the C12/C13 ratio in the atmosphere is changing toward increased concentrations of C12, then the source of the new CO2 must be plants. In addition, since animal respiration isn't enough to skew the C12/C13 ratio and simultaneously affect the concentration of CO2 and oxygen in the atmosphere, the source must be fossil fuels."

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            RickyDawkins1 year, 5 months ago

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            "The link between human-caused global warming -- generated by industrial and vehicle emissions of carbon dioxide to produce a temperature-boosting greenhouse effect -- and observed biological and physical changes is very strong.

            On a global scale, the correlation is more than 99 percent between the two factors; on a continental scale, she said, the correlation if very likely between 90 and 99 percent."

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/...

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              Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 5 months ago

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              Even McCain has acknowledged this. Of course he is for it at the moment, but he used to be against it, before he used to deny it before .... Yup.

              The denial monkeys are people who dump in their own bath tubs and think it doesn't effect their baths.

              It's a good thing Propeller isn't presented in John Water's "Oderama"!!!

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                Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 5 months ago

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                Even McCain admits this. Of course he's for it. Before he was against it. Before he denied it. Before...

                The denial monkeys are people who dump in their own bathtubs and claim it does not effect their bath.

                It's a good thing Propeller is not presented in John Water's "Oderama"!

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                  Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 5 months ago

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                  Duplicity and disappearance then reappearance? sorry.

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                  simonsez1 year, 5 months ago

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                  "On some continents, including Africa, South America, and Australia, documentation of observed changes in physical and biological systems is still sparse despite warming trends attributable to human causes. The authors concluded environmental systems on these continents need additional research, especially in tropical and subtropical areas where there is a lack of impact data and published studies".

                  Sounds like the cart before the horse ...

                  An assumption it is happening; now lets go find the evidence.

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                    TonyByron1 year, 5 months ago

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                    That last paragraph sure had some weasel-words in it.

                    Sounds like they are saying that some data didn't fit their agenda so it needs "additional research".

                    And this little jewel: "Other driving forces, such as land use change from forest to agriculture, were ruled out as having significant influence on the observed impacts."

                    According to wiki, about 700,000 square kilometers (about the size of Texas) of South America's rain forest alone has been lost since 1970. Added to the rest of deforestation around the world it is hard to understand how the authors dismiss the disappearance of huge amounts of CO2-trapping forest.

                    Why are enviro-groups all over the world rushing to plant or replant trees as carbon offsets?

                    The oh-so-careful wording of the article reveals it's bias.

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                    simonsez1 year, 5 months ago

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                    Poor aidenag ... he's having a rough spring with his GW agenda.

                    It's not easy to claim overheating when you need a coat and sweater.

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                      Aidenag1 year, 5 months ago

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                      Coat and Sweater??? Excuse me? it's 89-93 degree's in the Seattle region right now, 30 degree's above our average this time of year. Normally it doesn't get this hot until August in Seattle, and some years we don't see 90 degrees at all... Our rivers are starting to crest, flooding is about to start happening due to the snow we had just 3 weeks back...

                      Region has never had temp shifts like this before, 29 degree's less than a month ago, now almost hitting 100....

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                        TonyByron1 year, 5 months ago

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                        Must have felt good after the colder than normal winter.

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                          simonsez1 year, 5 months ago

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                          I thought you guys all ride bikes ...

                          Stifle all those coffee shops.

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                        amazed1 year, 5 months ago

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                        the problem with this article -- it only is looking at 20 years out of billions of years

                        and to quote many who are climbing all over the "gw deniers" as they call them -- I don't see a peer reviewed article here.

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                        ConquistadorForLife1 year, 5 months ago

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                        too late

                        everyone knew it.

                        tell my friend Bush about it aight.

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                          Joer4x41 year, 5 months ago

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                          If you believe humans cause Global Warming then you deserve to loose your freedom and pay higher taxes. But don't drag me along with you.

                          This story is in contrast to NASA's own charts showing steady temperature over the last few years.

                          Yes it was "arbitrated" meaning political.

                          Remember we were all going to die of skin cancer because of the ozone and fluorocarbons. Well the fluorocarbons have been out of the atmosphere ever since they took away our freon and alcohol based washer fluid and the ozone hole is bigger than ever. Proof humans played no role in the ozone depletion.

                          They lied then and they are lying now. Just common sense which many are lacking. But they got your emotions running high! That works!

                          BTW. It was Al Gore back then and Al Gore screwing your now!

                          History repeats itself and your still buying it!

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                            Aidenag1 year, 5 months ago

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                            Ummmmm i think your missing the point joer4x4. Yes the Ozone hole is still growing, and yes its larger than ever.. But since we banned those chemicals(for most uses, they still are allowed to be used in hundreds of applications), it is growing at a slower rate... Which means those chemicals were contributing a fairly large amount to the depletion of the Ozone...

                            And it was chlorofluorocarbons(CFCs), NOT fluorocarbons that were causing damage to the Ozone. Fluorocarbons lack the chlorine atom that is so destructive to our atmosphere.

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                              Joer4x41 year, 5 months ago

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                              I think logic would dictate that a reduction in CFCs would reduce its size.

                              I think it is strange that all our pollutants hover over our cities except for CFCs which magically collect around the poles - especially the south pole.

                              Thinking out loud, could the cold frigid air have something to do with in combination with sunlight? Cold air and angle of the sunlight seem to be a common factor at both poles.

                              Mars has seasonal changes in its ozone at the poles too. Perhaps we should regulate and tax the inhabitants to set them straight too. I don't think we will have too much trouble convincing them that it is their fault too.

                              I think they'll get the point:)

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                            mmrhe1 year, 5 months ago

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                            It's pretty obvious the world is slowly but surely coming around to the idea that global warming is real.

                            Because science has been tainted and politicized, especially here in America, we will continue to hear from the skeptics.

                            But they will quietly fade as more and more environmental disasters continue to pile up.

                            And one day we will all awaken and wonder what the hell were we thinking!

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                              TonyByron1 year, 5 months ago

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                              NASA has been caught in the recent past rearranging and cherry-picking data to fit an agenda:

                              http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/02/a_tale_...

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                                Tcaros1 year, 5 months ago

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                                They should look at HAARP. The project of heating the ionosphere.

                                The global warming may be the result of "monkeying" with weather patterns.

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                                  Tcaros1 year, 5 months ago

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                                  They should look at HAARP. The project of heating the ionosphere.

                                  The global warming may be the result of "monkeying" with weather patterns.

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                                    Tcaros1 year, 5 months ago

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                                    They should look at HAARP. The project of heating the ionosphere.

                                    The global warming may be the result of "monkeying" with weather patterns.

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                                      Tcaros1 year, 5 months ago

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                                      They should look at HAARP. The project of heating the ionosphere.

                                      The global warming may be the result of "monkeying" with weather patterns.

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                                        TonyByron1 year, 5 months ago

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                                        From the HAARP site:

                                        "The HAARP facility will not affect the weather. Transmitted energy in the frequency ranges that will be used by HAARP is not absorbed in either the troposphere or the stratosphere - the two levels of the atmosphere that produce the earth's weather. Electromagnetic interactions only occur in the near-vacuum of the rarefied region above about 70 km known as the ionosphere.

                                        The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun's radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth's atmosphere. The downward coupling from the ionosphere to the stratosphere/troposphere is extremely weak, and no association between natural ionospheric variability and surface weather and climate has been found, even at the extraordinarily high levels of ionospheric turbulence that the sun can produce during a geomagnetic storm. If the ionospheric storms caused by the sun itself don't affect the surface weather, there is no chance that HAARP can do so either."

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