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Posted By Alexia 1 year, 7 months ago in News

A small but startling sign welcomed the gun lovers who arrived at the National Rifle Association's annual gathering Friday. "Firearms WILL NOT be allowed in Hall A during the Celebration of American Values Leadership Forum."

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    Aidenag1 year, 7 months ago

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    I love guns, knives, and the 2nd amendment as much as the next guy, in fact i own a nice little arsenal myself.. But i really don't get what the big deal is here. This was an event with a presidential candidate at it...

    Nobody in their right mind would allow weapons to be brought into an event with a presidential candidate speaking. It's been like this for a long, long, long time... If the NRA, and or its members have such a problem with it, they should have not had the candidate come and speak at the event in the first place.

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    DaneL1 year, 7 months ago

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    A total non-story. There are many places where carrying a firearm is not allowed. The knife part is a little over the top but I can understand not allowing firearms when the next President is speaking.

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      tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago

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      Knives are a little overboard. Shell casings, files and nail clippers are just bullying, pure and simple.

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      eugenegerard1 year, 7 months ago

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      I think this policy went into effect when Bob Barr was at one of these functions and discharged an "unloaded" weapon nearly killing people close to him.

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        LittleBuckieVP431 year, 7 months ago

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        Whut in dagnammit is goin on heer! How is dey possed to clean dey nails when deys in der wid out dey nifes. Dese dam fools don no nuttin bout all the ways dem nifes is needed. Dam fools caint go takin a mans nife. It jus aint rite!

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          LittleBuckieVP431 year, 7 months ago

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          I dun sinked dis heer ritin cuz dey cain't take a mans nife.

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          greenmac1 year, 7 months ago

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          I find it hard to comprehend why an armed society is necessary. How is it that the US is like this and your neighbor to your north is just the opposite? There must be reasons for the violence and the need to carry a weapon.....

          These are just questions I have. I am not judging your love for weapons. I just would like to know how got to this point, where guns are deemed as a necessity of life.

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            Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago

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            Its part of the system of checks and balances, actually. Its one of the ways the population keeps the government in check... threat of armed revolt. Its just like the ability to recall a Senator and impeach a President or hold a vote of no confidence in a Parliament. The founders of the United States, recognizing the danger, made it clear that the citizenry of the United States were allowed to own weapons. Its also makes the United States a hell of a difficult country to invade if half the people have a gun of some sort... that's a militia of 100 million adults. Its not a love of weapons, either. In the rural areas the guns are used to hunt. In the urban areas its mainly protection... and criminals. Its a cultural thing... hunting, at least. Besides, I recognize no government's right to tell me I can't own a weapon. I just choose to not own one. That would be my attitude anywhere in the world.

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              vidman041 year, 7 months ago

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              You know the answer....you just don't want to say it.....

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                DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago

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                It deals with the history of the U.S. and the central role that gun ownership held in the tradition of the frontier and self-defense. It is not simply motivated by a fixation with violence.

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                greenmac1 year, 7 months ago

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                Mdiar and LibsR.... I appreciate you getting back to me. I understand having a gun for sport such as a rifle .... or even a rifle in the house in some areas of the country. What I don't understand is the need for hand guns and assault rifles.

                My question is...."What makes the Canadian and US cultures so different when it comes to violence." Also I believe the gun toting mentality is unique to the US ....why is that?

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                  Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago

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                  Look at the history of the United States and its origin and you'll understand a bit better. I'll help as I can...

                  The United States is the most "liberal" country in the world, traditionally. I don't mean liberal as in progressivism, but as in classical liberalism. The people tend to refuse the government's right to make anything illegal. Look at the fight to make pot illegal and cocaine and opium. Why would we take a different attitude towards weapons? Also, the United States has a ban on assault rifles I believe. Take into account that the United States was founded in a revolution and, rarely for a nation founded in an ideological revolution, did not restrict the rights of the citizen to own a weapon. The framers of the Constitution felt the need for the citizenry to rebel still existed. Its unlikely, but tell me, what would you do if government ignored you, limited free speech more then it is and abused the people? Then refused to leave office and the army sided with them.

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                    greenmac1 year, 7 months ago

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                    I would say it would be unlikely.... I believe we have come a long way since the colonial times.

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                      greenmac1 year, 7 months ago

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                      "what would you do if government ignored you, limited free speech more then it is and abused the people? Then refused to leave office and the army sided with them."

                      I would have to say that would be unlikely today.... though I could see the need of weapons for defense of our resources if the current trend continues in the US. I hope it never comes to that.

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                        Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago

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                        Come a long way, eh? Doubtful. Social programs and acceptance of others may be higher, but this won't stop people in power from doing what is in their own best interests if the opportunity arises. Our genetic structure hasn't changed... just how we see the world, and if we can come a long way in such a short time we can go way back as well in just as short a time. I doubt you have to defend against the United States... your country is working behind the scenes with the US, IMO. Well, not country. But government. Remember that attempt to influence the US elections a few weeks ago? Democracy is very fragile.

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                      Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago

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                      Now, GM... show me real statistical evidence that removing guns decreases the rate of violence and murder. Statistical evidence that is legitimate. It can't be... say... comparing Canada and the United States. That is not legitimate because those are two different areas with more factors then just the laws being different. It would have to be the first few months following a hand-gun ban. That is as controlled as it can become as far as experiments go... same general time period in the same area with as few differences existing as possible, other then the law change.

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                        greenmac1 year, 7 months ago

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                        I will have a look. I might be a while .... I like to research. I did this a while back...never saved the results.

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                          Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago

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                          Did you? I've found the complete opposite in the past. Take your time and I'll also find something else that I read awhile back. Its outdated but it points out clear points where a gun ban did nothing to the rate of murder or crime. In general, everything I have ever seen shows that a gun ban does nothing to a murder or crime rate. No real increase or decrease... however, I've not seen every (or even a majority) of statistics.

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                        Redneck1 year, 7 months ago

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                        Define "assualt rifle". The definition changes from day to day!!

                        Violence is universal. England has seen a huge rise in daylight breakins when the thieves might encounter a homeowner. Why have they been emboldened and why has such crime risen so significantly? Total ban on weapons. Notice I did not say guns. Guns were first. Now they are moving on to "preventive weapons" like clubs by the doorjam or knives!! Now the homeowner may be found guilty of defending himself!! AND jailed!!

                        You check into the rest of the world and see what the incidents of violent crime are. Australia has seen a rapid rise since they took all the guns. You have believed a lie.

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                          Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago

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                          I don't agree that it creates a lower crime rate, but I do believe its indisputable that gun bans don't change the violent crime rate for the better.

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                            Redneck1 year, 7 months ago

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                            Explain. I do not know what you were trying to say.

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                        Wolfie20071 year, 7 months ago

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                        Er, a the only thing that interested me about this story was John McLame speaking at the NRA convention.......so what did he have to say about the 2nd Amendment?

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                        Hyperboreus1 year, 7 months ago

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                        This guy is like a Mr. Bush..

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                          kfolive1 year, 7 months ago

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                          Guns are just one of human beings methods of population control.

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                            greenmac1 year, 7 months ago

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                            Homicides by country

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence

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                              jonmaverick1 year, 7 months ago

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                              Have you ever fired an assault rifle? I have, lots of them. Sniper rifles and pistols too. It's really fun. Like riding a motorcycle or skydiving, but without the imminent likelihood of death.

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                              greenmac1 year, 7 months ago

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                              Hey Mdiar... this is one of the sites I was looking for. This is a more accurate method of comparison. As I said...its all about how crime is defined in the stats. This is the Government Of Canada Site.

                              Crime comparisons between Canada and the United State

                              http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/011218/d011...

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