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ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago

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It's laughable that neocons would resort to citing truncated quotes of Michelle Obama's remarks out of context. Her full remarks were:
"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
Michelle Obama was NOT saying that up to this point she had never been proud to be an American. What she was saying was that up to this point, she had never seen so many disenfranchised and marginalized voters actively participate in politics -- and this record turnout has made her proud.

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  Goppy1 year, 6 months ago
  
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  Sorry ybdoggy.
  We Conservatives dont 'roll' that way.
  Right Wing Media has already implanted into our brains, the finely crafted hate message they wrought.
  Askin us to consider 'context' is liek talkin bout a Pink Elephant ... then askin us to NOT think bout a Pink Elephant.
  
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      ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
      
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      Certainly, there are many things for which Americans should feel rightfully proud and you've listed some of those here. But as you admit "Is the U.S. of A perfect? No." There are certainly some flaws in our history and policies that we should not be proud of. America's unbelievably low voter turnout rate (ranked 139th out of 172 democratic countries in the world) is one of these less flattering aspects of which we can't be proud.
      http://www.idea.int/vt/survey/voter_turnout_pop...
      Michelle Obama's remarks in their entirety address ONLY America's historically low voter turnout. Until this year when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were eliciting RECORD voter turnout, she had never seen so many citizens actively participating in democratic elections. That's all she said. But the neocon smear machine cited her truncated quote out of context to make it appear as if Michelle said she had nothing to be proud of in America.
      A gross exaggeration indeed.
      
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        ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        CAPE:
        "If this is the meaning then why does SHE not validate them."
        You mean like this? LOL.
        From your own precious Fox News:
        http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/20/michell...
        "Obama replied that she has been struck by the number of people going to rallies and watching debates, as well as record voter turnouts.
        "'What I was clearly talking about was that I'm proud in how Americans are engaging in the political process,' she said.
        'For the first time in my lifetime, I'm seeing people rolling up their sleeves in a way that I haven't seen and really trying to figure this out â;; and that's the source of pride that I was talking about,' she added.
        When asked if she had always been proud of her country, she replied "absolutely" and said she and her husband would not be where they are now if not for the opportunities of America."
        
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        ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        The fact is that Michelle Obama has REPEATEDLY "validated" what she meant. YOU just weren't paying attention because you were too busy trying to score cheap political points.
        CAPE:
        "And by the way if she is going to go out and stump for her husband then by all means she is opening herself up to ridicule and praise, but not one or the other."
        I don't agree. Michelle Obama is not the one running for office. but if you must, then at least scrutinize her position on important issues, and do it TRUTHFULLY. Your pathetic attempts to villify Michelle Obama by citing truncated quotes out of context obfuscate pressing issues America is facing and are UNTRUTHFUL within the context of meaning of her full speech.
        There is a PROFOUND distinction between engaging in intelligent, dispassionate political discourse and engaging in shameless muckraking. Apparently, you have trouble distinguishing between the two.
        
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  Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago
  
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  ybdogsct
  In context the problem phrase that stick out like a sore thumb is "for the first time in my adult lifetime". Nothing can take that away. What she should have said in place of that is "these things make me prouder". Instead the campaign is stuck with her words.
  
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    ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
    
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    ENDOSCOPY:
    "In context the problem phrase that stick out like a sore thumb is 'for the first time in my adult lifetime'"
    You misconstrue again by predictably citing Michelle's TRUNCATED quote out of context.
    Michelle Obama said the words "for the first time in my adult lifetime" because she has never witnessed such high voter turnout in America. Remember that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are SETTING RECORDS for new voter registration, voter turnout rate, and fundraising. Barack Obama, in particular, is setting a record for low-level, grassroots fundraising, which demonstrates just how many people are actively participating in politics for the first time. This is something most of us, Michelle Obama and myself included, have never seen in our adult lifetimes. This is a first for America and Michelle Obama ought to be rightfully proud of the new involvement of previously disenfranchised voters in our democratic elections.
    Try reading it again.
    
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      And that fact makes it OK to say that "for the first time in my adult lifetime" I'm proud to be an American. People voted for her husband and that is what she says. No way no how can you turn this sows ear into a silk purse. You obviously didn't really read my post. It was an extremely poor choice of words. In or out of context. Stupid to make that statement.
      With your statement about the context she should have said she is proud of Americans or something like that. This statement was a sound bite waiting to happen. No amount of context will change it into something else.
      
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        ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        ENDOSCOPY:
        "You obviously didn't really read my post. It was an extremely poor choice of words. In or out of context."
        You obviously didn't read Michelle Obama's full comment because if you had, you would realize that she was making an ACCURATE observation that is SUPPORTED by the available data. And that observation is that she has never in her adult lifetime seen such a high new voter registration rate, high voter turnout, and high campaign donation rate.
        This new participation by the previously apathetic and disenfranchised IS something to be proud of. But the historically low voter turnout in DEMOCRATIC elections for the U.S., which proclaims itself to be the world's defender of DEMOCRACY, is nothing to be proud of. Again, Michelle Obama's observation is supported by the AVAILABLE DATA. The same can't be said for ANY of your unsubstantiated arguments.
        http://www.idea.int/vt/survey/voter_turnout_pop...
        Typical.
        
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        Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        I read it in its entirety. It stinks. Bad choice of words. At best a Freudian slip.
        
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