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Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
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"We should just allow Iran to have nukes, Just let Iraq be flushed down the toilet run by Islamofascist military junta, and just forget about Afghanistan all in the name of keeping the Middle East at peace for cheaper oil. "
Garbage.
Iran isn't breaking any laws. According to all accounts even if they were to go after nuclear weapons they're more than a decade away.
Plus the US and Israel have proven themselves to be the most dangerous nations on earth when it comes to invading other nations on a pretense, bombing people into oblivion and planning to occupy a country for an extended period of time.
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Mutainia1 year, 7 months ago
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Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
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"Hey, lower the oil prices, Abdullah, or, no more Mecca, just for starters." But, that would be mean, so, we don't."
It's not a matter of being mean. It's a matter of destroying the most holy place of a religion by attacking a country that's shown no aggression towards us just to push a political agenda. It's pure stupidity. Which isn't surprising from your mouth.
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Mutainia1 year, 7 months ago
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Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
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9/11 was an attack by extremists hiding behind Islam to push their own ideology. It had nothing to do with Mecca. As to who's keeping America dependent upon Saudi Oil, that would be George Bush and his family, best friends of the House of Saud and the American people who are too lazy to break their oil dependency.
As for raising OPEC prices, it's sure not Islam. It's the instability and uncertainty in the Middle East which today is purely due to Bush's war in Iraq, a place that had not a thing to do with 9/11 and had no al-Quaeda before the US invasion. It's politics, ideology and in the long run like anything else it's money. Like all the money that goes into the pocket of no-bid contracts for KBR or Haliburton.
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Mutainia1 year, 7 months ago
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I think you might be right on the OPEC thing, but, who do you think these extremists were "hiding behind Islam to push their own ideology? I've noticed that a Muslim is a Muslim until he commits an act of terror, then Muslims say he was either a puppet of the West to make Islam look Satanic, or, he was a freedom fighter protesting the "evil Zionist entity" that traded land for peace and got rockets fired FROM the land in return. So, again, who do YOU think was behind 9/11? WHO were these extremists, you called them?
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Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
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"I've noticed that a Muslim is a Muslim until he commits an act of terror, then Muslims say he was either a puppet of the West to make Islam look Satanic "
Apparently you haven't noticed or you'd stop calling all Muslims terrorists. The mere fact that these terrorist acts are decried by the majority of Muslims as being acts AGAINST Islam should help you wake up.
Who was behind 9/11? A bunch of ideologues, 18/19 of them with Saudi passports. Spearheaded (probably) by Bin-Laden, whom the US Government decided not to chase when it decided to concentrate on a war in Iraq, turn down the heat in Afghanistan and destroy a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11.
A good deal of murderers in Jail proclaim they're Christians, but the Bible tells us (as does the Qur'an) that you can judge one's faith by the fruit of their actions. Every terrorist action is against Islam.
Try reading "Who Speaks for Islam" by Esposito & Mogahed.
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Mutainia1 year, 7 months ago
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It sounds good, but, thanks to the concept of "dar al harb" where, in Islam, "war is deceit", again, it's hard to tell the peaceful from those who'd be like the 45 British Islamic medical doctors who tried to set off bombs at two Scottish airports. It's NOt the Muslim's fault for not being able to be trusted, it's Quran 3:28 and 16:106's.
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Leemck021 year, 7 months ago
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Mutainia, the culture is represented in so many ways by our media; many are not accurate. I don't know much but history shows being Muslim is not connected with acts of terror. There may be Muslims who associate themselves with organizations, movements or what we may think of as a political party who may have an initiation; without a true knowledge, I would say like al Qaeda. To commit an act of terror is repulsive as gangs, the KKK or other organized terror groups. Then we have rituals such as being baptized to be a certain religion. I ask that you, others and I require real information that we don't look foolish or support policy that the propaganda machines use us to allow their greed. I take you want what is best for this nation, hating people without knowing the issues sets us up for being taken advantage of to make war or not make peace where it is actually in our best interest. There are people we need to tackle, but it should be with good info and not a reaction.
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Codi69341 year, 7 months ago
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As to who's keeping America dependent upon Saudi Oil, that would be George Bush and his family,
If the U.S. could explore its own sources. We would not be in this mess now. Congress, environmentist and some states have only increased our dependency on foreign sources by putting areas off limits. We caused this ourselves. And we had better fix it soon.
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Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
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"If the U.S. could explore its own sources. We would not be in this mess now. "
More "destroy ANWR" garbage. Even if we tapped (and destroyed) ANWR, it would supply less than 6% of the US's oil needs. Which is how many years of population growth?
It's a red herring. Stop trying to find ways to prolong our dependence and start working on ways to break it.
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Codi69341 year, 7 months ago
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ANWR isn't the only place we can find oil/natural gas. Tell me how one can destroy 19 million acres by only using 2,000? I am willing to bet we are a little smarter then that.
What you don't realize is the time it takes to reduce our crude oil use and move to renewable energy will be no less then 10 years up to 25( and that is my guess) . What do we in the between time? Pay $200 a barrel or more, get sucked into another war in the Middle East, kiss the a*s of Hugo Charez?
There isn't enough renewable energy to replace the cost v. reward to replace coal, yet!
Gas isn't the only thing made from crude oil. But it gets the most air time. Enthyol(sp?) is causing more harm then good. This won't change over night, it will take time. This economy can't continue to pay high oil prices, not for much longer. Then what?
You are right, we do need to break for oil. But we need to do it on our timetable. If we don't explore our own sources it will get worst long before it gets better.
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Candida1 year, 7 months ago
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Mutainia: "Raising OPEC prices to bankrupt America is not aggression?"
No it isn't. Everyone has a right to sell whatever he/she has at any price he/she wants to. Others have the right not to buy it. It's not the Saudis' fault that the US has put itself in a position of dependency on their oil.
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