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bubba21 year, 5 months ago

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Let's see how long it takes a McCain supporter to try to deflect this or try to justify how it is less 'offensive' than what Rev. Wright 'said' ... or that McCain just asked for Hagee's support, he didn't "sit in his church pews" ....

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  toph19731 year, 5 months ago
  
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  This is far worse than what wright said. McCain said this guy was a great American leader (or something to that effect). More hatred, racism and intolerance coming from the Pulpit. Shocking? Hardly. Typical? Definitely. And people wonder why I think the Church is evil. We'll see if McCain gets rid of this slime. But probably not.
  This reminds me how Gulianni said that a pedophile child molester pastor was a great man.
  
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    jovial1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Here's another goody. Anyone know Ron Parsley?? McCain called this guy his spiritual guide. Watch the video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVVX9aTNKB4
    
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  NoSpinDave1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I will say it. No prob. It IS a B I G difference! While these comments seem to be authentic (and horrible and I would denounce them 100 percent) there is ZERO EVIDENCE that McCain EVER knew about them.
  On the other hand B H O CLEARLY knew all the things his PERSONAL PASTOR was saying over a TWENTY YEAR PERIOD.
  THIS IS A GREAT SWERVE, but anyone with any brain understands the diffenence.
  I expect nothing less than the usual INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY from ANOTHER one of Libscapes left wing extremist, partisan Navs though.
  Still waiting (after two years) for a post from a conservative nav here. Kinda sad really how biased this site has become.
  
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    lfergie8121 year, 5 months ago
    
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    "Kinda sad really how biased this site has become."
    Truth still hurts I see. It's only bias if you strongly disagree with it. Of course I'm also sure that you believe that FOX News is "fair and balance" reporting while MSNBC is bias. Get a life Dave.
    
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    IanFraigun1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    First of all McCain knew of his intolerance on many issues and still asked for his endorsement meaning he must agree with the comments. As far as Obama this is not his personal pastor but rather the pastor of a church Obama and hundreds of others belong to. Congregants do not agree with all things their pastors say in any church, but when you ask someone to support you then you are saying you believe in what they stand for.
    
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    jordan111 year, 5 months ago
    
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    On the other hand B H O CLEARLY knew all the things his PERSONAL PASTOR was saying over a TWENTY YEAR PERIOD.>>>>
    There's the problem with this conversation. You see, WHAT the pastor was saying was correct. HOW he was saying it was his error. You don't seem to think that Obama had the common sense to get by the 'how', & focus on the 'what.' However, his life's conduct clearly shows that he did that very well.
    
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    ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    DAVE:
    "there is ZERO EVIDENCE that McCain EVER knew about them."
    Your justification is weak.
    If McCain didn't know what Hagee had said, then why would McCain say he didn't agree with everything Hagee had said? How can you deny what you don't know?
    http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/the_mccainhage...
    "McCain assured reporters that, just because Hagee was endorsing him, it didn't mean he agreed with everything Hagee said."
    Even AFTER McCain was informed of Hagee's hateful rants by a reporter, McCain insisted he was "proud of Hagee's support."
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/mcca...
    "Mr. McCain said he was 'very honored' by Mr. Hagee's endorsement. Asked about Mr. Hagee's writings on Armageddon and about Mr. Hagee's belief that the anti-Christ will be the head of the EU, Mr. McCain responded that 'all I can tell you is that I am very proud to have Pastor John Hagee's support.'"
    
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    ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    McCain even went out of his way to DEFEND Hagee's comments after he was informed of them by a reporter.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/29/john-h...
    HAGEE: "It's true that [John] McCain's campaign sought my endorsement."
    John McCain defended Pastor Hagee's comments today, saying he believe Hagee's claims that his statements were taken out of context.
    MCCAIN: "I will say that Hagee said that his words were taken out of context, he defends his position.."
    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/11/mccain-hage...
    McCain then said he could look past Hagee's bigoted comments because 'when we were doing the No Surrender tour, he came and spoke on behalf of not surrendering in Iraq.'"
    
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    dunkirk1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    ROFLMAO, Dave you seem to enjoy spinning anything you come in contact with. You of course can point to the legislation that Obama supported and/or authored that furthered what his pastor was talking about? Ya know since he believes in those things so much he MUST have tried to push it in legislation. Oh yeah he didn't. Dang reality always tends ot blow holes in you guys.
    however when you look at what the REPUBLICANS do they seem intent on pushing the hate mongers like Hagee and Robertson onto all Americans i.e. funding for religious madrasas in the US, hiring bible students into the DOJ. Tsk Tsk reality has to really be problem with your spin Dave.
    
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    Blackacereturn1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    I wonder what this say to the so-call not voting for Obama because of Rev Wright. I guess now we get to see who is about race and who is about substance? In my mind they are both meaningless, the issues are the only thing that should matter.
    
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    mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    The real question is, how much did *Cindy McCain* know about Hagee. Has anyone asked Rachel Ray yet? I hope no one gets thrown under the bus over this. ;-x
    
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    bubba21 year, 5 months ago
    
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    NoSpinDave --
    Have YOU sat in the Pews were Wright preached for the last 20 years, EVERY SUNDAY?
    If not, then you have NO idea WHAT Wright said in his sermons over the past 20 years. None at all.
    The ONLY sermon, from which only SOUNDBITES have been played, is 7 years old and the soundbites are definitely taken out of context.
    There is NO documentation to support the "blanket generalization that Wright and/or his church have preached any "hate" or "anti-patriotic" anything for 20 years.
    But you have accepted that face-value spin, which is exactly what FOX New and the neocons WANT you to do.
    Try reading some of this - if you can open you mind up enough ...
    http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/michael_tom...
    http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/
    
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    mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    " Kinda sad really how biased this site has become."
    --I imagine you must get terribly lonely perpetually spinning to defend the indefensible. ;-(
    
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    ETproductions1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    AllSoinDave wrote: "It IS a B I G difference! While these comments seem to be authentic (and horrible and I would denounce them 100 percent) there is ZERO EVIDENCE that McCain EVER knew about them."
    I have noticed that EVERYTHING your RepugniCons do is entirely different from Democrats doing the same thing. Your rules. We can do anything, and it is good. You can do anything and it is bad.
    Sorry, my friend. I play by the rules of the universe, not the warped rules of your partisan hate campaign.
    There is also ZERO EVIDENCE Obama knew about his pastor's more outrageous statements. What is clear is McCain sought out the endorsements of Hagee, Parsley, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. We know what Hagee and Parsley have said. Falwell and Robertson had both claimed that 911 was God's punishment of America. No better or worse than Wright. Yet they get a free pass?
    It calls into question McCain's judgment. His ability to run things. No vetting?
    
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  Goppy1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I doubt this story will amount to much of a blip in the Mainstream Media.
  Havin Crazy Televangelists Endorse Republicans fits nicely with the Stereotypes Media has created surroundin the two parties.
  Of course, this stereotype was developed by the REpublican Media Machine ... (cause far be it from Media to do any investigatin on their own).
  And if theres ONE BRAND the REpublican Media Machine has succeeded in creatin ... its the RELIGIOUS RIGHT. (Which is, of course, another name for Christian Conservatives.)
  Now this WOULD be news if Hagee endorsed Obama ... cause that would be goin AGAINST type, AGAINST stereotype.
  But if THAT happened, it would SERIOUSLY harken the 'End Times'. ... ... Cause ... typically ... those who embrace intolerance, bigotry, narrow-mindedness, exclusion, war, and a black/white view of world events ... that sort dont normally endorse poeple of Expansive Vision.
  
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    RickyDawkins1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    I know you are a Luddite, but you may like this link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Delusion
    
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    jordan111 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Again, what his pastor was saying was correct. HOW he said it was badly put forth with anger. Doesn't mean Obama went along with the how, but he clearly learned from the 'what.' And....he took what he learned and gave to the community that had been oppressed in positive ways. Ya'll just refuse to admit that Obama has done NOTHING to indicate he goes along with Wright's style of preaching. He learned from the life experiences of Wright, which were filled with living racism, and went about trying to help those who have been affected by racism. You have a non issue here, but like all CONS, you got your teeth in it and you're going to defy reality to the end.
    
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    Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Black liberation Theology views EVERYTING through the lens of blacks fighting oppression of whites. That is what Rev. Wright spouts off about. The church claims allegiance to Africa not the US. Go to their web site and get some of his sermons and what the church stands for.
    
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    mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Kinda like he "made a mistake" over whether to support removing the Confederate flag from the SC state capitol bldg and he "made a mistake" opposing a holiday honoring Martin Luther King, right libsr? McCain is just your knight in shining armor, ain't he?
    
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    bubba21 year, 5 months ago
    
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    AGAIN ...
    Have YOU sat in the Pews were Wright preached for the last 20 years, EVERY SUNDAY?
    If not, then you have NO idea WHAT Wright said in his sermons over the past 20 years. None at all.
    The ONLY sermon, from which only SOUNDBITES have been played, is 7 years old and the soundbites are definitely taken out of context.
    There is NO documentation to support the "blanket generalization that Wright and/or his church have preached any "hate" or "anti-patriotic" anything for 20 years.
    
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  pc251 year, 5 months ago
  
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  hey MENSA boy you apparently missed last weeks press conference with McCain and Hagee where Hagee apologized to Catholics about his remarks towards them and then McCain took the podiuum in front of Hagee and said he disavows, disagess, and distances himself from many of Hagee's views and comments...........now where is the Rev Wright's apology to people as well as Obama calling a press conference with Wright taking the podium in front of Wright and issuing the same same statement........hasn't happened ..........what we do get after all the uproar though is Wright going on PBS and then appearing before the National Press Club in Washington continuing to spew his racist philosophical bile.........just goes to show how stupid all you little Abominoids are trying to equate the 2 especially since McCain was never a member of Hagee's Churce, never sat for 20 years in Hagees church, wasn't married by or had his children baptized by hagee, never donated 10's of thousands of dollars to hagee
  
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    pc251 year, 5 months ago
    
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    never called Hagee his spiritual mentor and never listened to Hagees sermons while he was in college......all we ever got from Obama was denials, I was never there during those sermons, he is like everyones crazy uncle, I could never disown him more i could my white grandmother ( then he goes on to throw grandma uunder the bus and call her a typical white person).....it wasn't until Wright goes on PBS with Bill Moyers and makes a spectacle of himself and follows it up the following day with a speech right out of Hitler's Aryan German philosophy that all of a sudden Obama is shocked and issues a statement this is not the man I met 20 years ago, only to be followed by Wright's reply he says what a politician has to say........pure unadulterated bs............meanwhile McCain calls a conference where Hagee apologizes and McCain distances himself from his comments...........BIG BIG difference........BTW Hagee has also recanted his Katrina comments among others
    
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    bubba21 year, 5 months ago
    
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    AND AGAIN ...
    Have YOU sat in the Pews were Wright preached for the last 20 years, EVERY SUNDAY?
    If not, then you have NO idea WHAT Wright said in his sermons over the past 20 years. None at all.
    The ONLY sermon, from which only SOUNDBITES have been played, is 7 years old and the soundbites are definitely taken out of context.
    There is NO documentation to support the "blanket generalization that Wright and/or his church have preached any "hate" or "racist" anything for 20 years.
    
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  MajJohn1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Did McCain openly ask for Hagee's support? Or did Hagee decide on his own that of the three remaining candidates he found McCain more to his liking? I really don't know. From what I heard McCain say, it went something like,"I can not prevent someone from endorsing me". Sort of like the wacky enforcements Obama got from some of those characters in the Middle East.. All politicians get from time to time endorsements they with they didn't have.
  This post will degenerate into a he said, she said and resolve nothing. We need to take in all we know about Obama and McCain and then decide in our own hearts who would bring healing to our fractured society and bring solutions to the challenges we face.
  You noticed I left Clinton out. I don't care for her. She is a divisive old style politician and we need to get off this Clinton/Bush merry go round.
  
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    jovial1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    McCain actively sought out Hagee's endorsement.
    
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    Candida1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    MajJohn: "Did McCain openly ask for Hagee's support?"
    According to the NYT he did:
    "But those who try to give Mr. McCain a pass for his embrace of a problematic preacher have a thin case. It boils down to this: Mr. McCain was not a parishioner for 20 years at Mr. Hagee's church.
    That defense implies, incorrectly, that Mr. McCain was a passive recipient of this bigot's endorsement. In fact, by his own account, Mr. McCain sought out Mr. Hagee, who is perhaps best known for trying to drum up a pre-emptive "holy war" with Iran."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/opinion/04ric...
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    The first three videos also show that whether McCain sought out his endorsement or not, he was pleased and proud to get it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS9F7O2lhWg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyG3NhRfzjk&feat...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDeralFXCLU&feat...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PQb-d6nQg8&feat...
    
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  jaern1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I guess McCain's minister was saying, "Goddamn the World!"
  
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Spadecaller1 year, 5 months ago

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The so called liberal press is even ignoring this... what does that tell you? McCain is being given a free ride by the press.
Hagee believes that Hitler was sent by God to destroy the Jews. How sick! That should be all over the news; there was a time -- not too long ago that this would have not have been overlooked by the news media.
We must force the hand of the media to demand answers from McCain for seeking this endorsement.
Did God send us a corporate-owned fascist media too? Perhaps Hagee has an answer for that one too...

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  antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Thank you. Nice to find others who have know all along what I am just finding out.
  Its game over for the 4th leg of democracy in this 2 party system when the media is controlled by the party in power in league with neocon and coporate owners. GAME OVER
  Why isn't this guy Hagee and what he said on every front page of every newspaper in America, along with Wright?
  Or TV news? Or radio? Or news magazine, or any magazine, or music industry, or Movie industry?
  Because the evangelicals and neocon's who own everything intersect in this bizzare dual purpose, evangelicals vote to lower taxes for the rich, and the rich support the end times rapture fantasy for the evangelicals which has to do with Hagee's proficy, that catholics burned Jews so they would secure Israel for the rapture.
  Praise the ammunition and pass the lord.
  
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    DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    ''Because the evangelicals and neocon's who own everything ''
    ...
    ''which has to do with Hagee's proficy,''
    I don't know about Hagee's, but neocon proficy came true in spades
    :-0
    
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    cloud151 year, 5 months ago
    
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    "Because the evangelicals and neocon's who own everything intersect in this bizzare dual purpose,"
    I thought everything was owned by the zionists
    
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  hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Why do you suppose that it is NOT all over the news Spade? Maybe has to do with the fact that "christian zionist" Hagee is part of the ZionCon circles that think killing americans in the mideast for zionist crimes against humanity is just fine?
  Bush in Israel: A president without shame
  
  Politics â;; As a Jew, I am offended that George Bush has likened the Arab states which have engaged with Israel in a territorial dispute since 1948 as Nazis. I am angry that Bush made a moral equivalence between Hitler Germany and the Palestinian national movement.
  http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/05/18/...
  
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    hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    A Two-State Solution for the United States and Israel
    Do No Evil â;; Bush's shameful visit to Israel shows the degree to which right-wing fanatics in Israel control American politics. McCain also demonsrates that he puts loyalty to right-wing zionists ahead of Americans. Endless preemptive mideast wars, "master races" and mideast empire are now grafted on the US by zionist right-wingers.
    http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/05/19/...
    
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    cloud151 year, 5 months ago
    
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    "christian zionist" Hagee"
    LMAO hyperbola....I truly wonder if you know what a zionist is.
    In one case wen have Hagee saying Hitler was doing the work of God and Jews have no soul, and then at the same time he supports re-establishing the Jewish homeland.
    
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  hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Well Spade, perhaps the free ride has to do with the fact that Hagee is a "christian zionist" that is thick with the ZionCons in America and just loves the idea of killing Americans in the mideast for zionist crimes against humanity.
  Bush in Israel: A president without shame
  Politics â;; As a Jew, I am offended that George Bush has likened the Arab states which have engaged with Israel in a territorial dispute since 1948 as Nazis. I am angry that Bush made a moral equivalence between Hitler Germany and the Palestinian national movement.
  http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/05/18/...
  
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    lfergie8121 year, 5 months ago
    
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    You have to overlook the idiocy of this president that isn't interested in bringing a solution to the problem but rather trying to find ways to attack other countries.
    I hardly believe Hagee to be a "Christian Zionist" as the two terms are contradictory. He can be a Christian or a Zionist but he cannot be both. My guess is that he's a babbling idiot that other idiots like to listen to. Similar to a Rush Limbaugh.
    
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That is his interpretation of the passages. Very scary!!!
By his way of thinking every evil thing that happens is Gods" way of bringing us back toward him.
Funny I view it the oposite. God knows it will happen because of mans hatred of the Jews his people.
He is warning all man kind that these things will happen.
When you see this happening you will know my words are true.
To me it is a way of saying all this has to happen before you will obey my word.
Just like a dad who knows what will happen to his children if they do certain things. But try as he might to warn them they do it and bad things happen. They look back and say dad knew this would happen.
Hagee is a scary hating preacher to me. Yes God says all those things. But God always loves us and wants us to do the right thing so we don't get hurt.

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  RickyDawkins1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  "Funny I view it the oposite."
  Hagee said that hurricane Katrina was send by God. Do you disagree?
  Did God have anything to do with the recent earthquake in China?
  And the cyclone in Myanmar, was God sending us message?
  Of course not. God does not exist. Its all in your BRAIN.
  Hagee doesn't talk to God. You don't talk to God. Nobody talks to God. You are talking to the AIR.
  That love you feel, is within.
  
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    swasdiva1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    You are entitled to your opinion, but what does your opinion have to do with the price of tea in China? CG is only commenting on the error of how Jewish prophetic books are misinterpreted by modern literalist Christians. He's correct that the *point* of the writing was not to insinuate God wants to bludgeon humanity with evil, but is stressing that continued acts of moral depravity will lead to destruction. It's kinda like Karma. You reap what you sow and all that jazz. It's supposed to be a big wake up call.
    CG's comment has nothing to do with proving if God exists or not and has everything to do with looking at a religious work in a historical context. Calm down a little, would ya?
    
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    dubruoy1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    "Hagee doesn't talk to God. You don't talk to God. Nobody talks to God."
    Many people talk to God and that doesn't bother me. It's when they proclaim that God is talking to them and that God wants me to do something that bothers me. When that happens, my manipulation detector goes off.
    
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  Eagle_Eye1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I seriously have to disagree with you here RickyD, I talk to God all the time and God answers me in so many ways. I have seen God and the other side, so I know things that you don't have a clue about. Don't take it personal though, I don't agree with a lot of things said about God.
  
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    RickyDawkins1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    "so I know things that you don't have a clue about"
    try me. i am one who knows much that is hidden.
    
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  RickyDawkins1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I talk to the flying spaghetti monster 2 times a day and 3 times on sunday. She comforts me, pays my electric bill if i fall behind. She assures me that i am going to live forever. If i accidentally leave the pasta boiling too long, she will remind me while it is still aldente.
  You have no clue, unless you have actually tasted a divine meatball. Unfortunately, you will miss out on eternal happiness, since you worship a false deity, i guess thats your choice though.
  Don't take it personal. The flying spaghetti monster loves all her children, even those who fail believe.
  r-amen
  (i am not making any of this up, it has been Written)
  
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    Eagle_Eye1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    You have no clue unless you've had a "Near Death" experience, and it is quit obvious you never have other wise you wouldn't say the things you do.
    
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    DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    ''...the flying spaghetti monster... She...''
    ", unless you have actually tasted a divine meatball"
    this is a serious logical conundrum
    plus its blasphemous
    shame!!
    
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    jordan111 year, 5 months ago
    
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    I have no problem that some people have beliefs that I don't hold. The only time I'll argue their beliefs is when they use them to infringe on the rights of others. As Eagle Eye clearly doesn't do that, I have to ask why you feel it necessary to try to pounce on her beliefs.
    
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Aidenag1 year, 5 months ago

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A spokesman for Hagee confirmed the authenticity of this recording earlier, so It's 100% legit. And in Hagee's book "Jerusalem Countdown" from 2006, he proposed that Jews were to blame for anti-Semitism, and the Holocaust...

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  antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Add to that the anti defamation league, which consideres any criticism of Isreal a work of anti semitism. That's a sweet monopoly, if you own the american media and fund the right wing think tanks, and hence the material for fox news and the bush adminsitration, populated by dual citizinship usa/Israeli neocons such as the visionary Wolfawitz, Pearl and Scooter Libby.
  Go see Iron Man, fellow Walmarters! See the evil muslim burned by Robert Downy Jewnior with his superior technology! An american neocon hollowood classic.
  
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    AnteUp1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    antibrainwasher ~
    Yeah - and what's the ADL going to complain about?
    Hagee is one of the Christian Zionists that speaks with
    the Israeli flag prominently displayed - is welcomed to Israel by extremist Israelis AND their politicians.
    The ADL has been playing AIPAC's game so long that it
    would be total hypocrisy for them to even utter a peep.
    What a sorry state of affairs.
    I think I agree with most of what you have said but
    I am NOT a Walmarter and I don't understand why you
    would make the "Robert Downey Jewnior" remark. I didn't
    like Kahane any better than I like Hagee now - but that
    in NO way means I don't like Jews - or would make insensitive remarks about them. I wish you would re-think
    that tactic.
    
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    bluetexasvalley1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Bushies with dual citizenship -- U.S./Israel:
    - Michael Chertoff: Attorney General on 9/11, Director of Homeland Security
    - Ari Fliescher : Former Press Secretary to President Bush
    - Mark Grossman: Under Secretary for political affairs (Met with General Mahmoud Amhoud, head of Pakistani ISI on or about 9/11 the supposed financier of the hijackers.
    - Douglas Feith: Undersecretary of War and former member of PNAC (Project for a New American Century)
    - Paul Wolfowitz: Feith's Boss, Former PNAC member, investigated for spying for Israel, resigned in World Bank scandal.
    (cont.)
    
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    swasdiva1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Did you even see the flipping movie? RDJ kicked ass, both literally and figuratively, and if you actually paid attention you would've noticed it was the RICH WHITE GUY (who was most probably NOT Jewish) who was the EVIL MASTERMIND! Sweet Jesus...
    Not to mention the fact that the original Ironman comic took place during the anti-communism hullabaloo prior to the Vietnam war and the writer/director wanted to update it for a modern context. Did you even *see* that the guy helping RDJ build the first suit was a LOCAL CAPTIVE?? And that Ironman did NOT kill the innocent MUSLIM TOWNSPEOPLE!?!?! *heavy darth vader breathing*
    Wow...yikes...didn't plan on that rant, but I just wish people wouldn't comment on something they can't understand. I know there are a lot more important things I could be defending besides a comic book.
    
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    cloud151 year, 5 months ago
    
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    "Go see Iron Man, fellow Walmarters! See the evil muslim burned by Robert Downy Jewnior with his superior technology! An american neocon hollowood classic."
    Your an idiot...isn't it funny that the real bad guy in that movie is an old white guy working for the US Government as a weapons developer? But don't let that get in you way of linking it to Zionism.
    
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    ZippySpincycle1 year, 5 months ago
    
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  splitrch1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Yet Joe Lieberman thinks Hagee is ok because of his supposed support for Israel. Lieberman is either an idiot or a fool.
  
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    Shadowolf1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    ...why not both???
    
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  Coatl1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Isn't pretty much the same in most of the countries of the world? At least in the last election here in Mexico we felt the same.
  
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    slate1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Dang I meant to give your post a good mark HMAC, hey is that a Taylor Guitar?
    
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    blinkers1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Coatl, certainly prety much true here (Japan) where the choices come election time vary only among duffer, maverick, & nonentity. This has been going on more or less for the last 25 years. In fact since 1955 the SAME ruling party has been in control, apart from a brief 10 months back in the 1990s. (The pm that time was tossed out due to corruption of a minion)
    The vibrance and contention, thrust and parry of the US presidential campaigns at least are not sleep-inducing as they tend to be, here.
    
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  dubruoy1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Here are some interesting quotes which make it seem that it may not even matter.
  http://www.tentmaker.org/Quotes/conspiracy_ nuts_theories.htm
  
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In my opinion, God allows all of human kind to freely chose. God does not make us do anything! It is called Free will!
Glad that Hagee isn't my pastor!
Thanks Mark!

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  not2needy1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Freewill Baptist, i used to go there when i was a kid, and still believe more of their doctrine than any other today.
  
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    antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    So, god made us in his image, and watches us as we crawl around on the planet from his comfy cushion in the clouds of tralfamadore, as we make decisions like, "should I eat the blueberry pie that was supposed to be a present for my sister?", records said decisions, then when we float up to heaven in our invisible body image, the recorded decisions are summarized, and at some cut off, we are burned in a lake of hell fire, or give the prime tee times at the christian golf and country club in the sky.
    If god created us in his image 6000 years ago, and then cleverly confused us by making the half life of uranium about a million years or so, then perhaps he has some free will issues hisbadsef.
    
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  antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  He's just being a political wh*re like they all are, you can't win the red state trailer vote without the swiftboating televangelist on board.
  They are a bit uneasy with McCain being a secret atheist, and not a born again snake handling tongue speaking moron like the current chimpanzee.
  
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  ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  The problem is that McCain is not the only one seeking the endorsement of conservative Christians like Hagee. In fact, Pat Robertson endorsed Giuliani. Jerry Falwell endorsed Huckabee. Bob Jones endorsed Romney.
  Also, all of these individuals endorsed GW Bush, and yet I don't hear a PEEP from Republicans--all very telling of a partisan double standard.
  JERRY FALLWELL:
  http://www.actupny.org/YELL/falwell.html
  "FALWELL: I believe that pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, the ACLU, and People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped 9/11 happen.
  ROBERTSON: I totally concur."
  http://www.harpers.org/archive/2005/08/0080695
  PAT ROBERTSON: "The Antichrist is probably a Jew alive in Israel today."
  
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    jovial1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Ouch!!
    
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    Ciera-Marie1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    ybdogsct that is one scary list. They love the war in the ME too. Anything to speed up the "End Times."
    
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  ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson
  PAT ROBERTSON: "Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals; the two things seem to go together."
  PAT ROBERTSON: "You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist"
  http://mediamatters.org/items/200706270005
  PAT ROBERTSON: "If [Chavez] thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war."
  http://hughesforamerica.typepad.com/hughes_for_...
  ANN COULTER: "We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee."
  http://www.newsbusters.org/node/13791
  ANN COULTER: "If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.'"
  
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    swasdiva1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    I don't really see what the problem is. I blame Presbyterians for the downfall of mankind, too. *sorry, unjustified sarcasm*
    
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    jovial1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Double Ouch!!
    
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    cushi1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    I don't listen to any of the televangelists on a regular basis because I think they're all charlatans! For the most part, they treat religion like a business enterprise, and the knowledge they say they want to share with the world, they want the world to PAY for! If they wanted to do it for free, they could just get out on the street corners and preach the word.
    That said, I do tune in to Jack Van Impe, not because I feel he's any different than the others, but because his focus is on the book of Revelation, which to me, is the most important book of the Bible and the one we most need to understand and learn from in this day and time. I do not suscribe to everything he says, understand that, but I do take away things he says to digest and put into perspective (with God's help) for myself.
    
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  ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  And then, of course, there are things McCain HIMSELF or his advisors have uttered.
  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259282,00.html
  "McCain used the term 'tar baby.' He said he hoped it wouldn't be viewed as a racial remark."
  http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml
  "On his campaign bus recently, Sen. John McCain told reporters, 'I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.'"
  http://archive.salon.com/politics2000/feature/2...
  "Richard Quinn, McCain's chief South Carolina advisor in 2000, who edits a racially controversial magazine called Southern Partisan called Nelson Mandela a 'terrorist' and King a man 'whose role in history was to lead his people into a perpetual dependence on the welfare state, a terrible bondage of body and soul.' In another piece, Quinn said of former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, 'What better way to reject politics as usual than to elect a maverick like David Duke?'"
  
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  http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?AC...
  "In 2000, McCain reversed himself on the confederate flag first calling it 'a symbol of racism and slavery' but then pandering the very next day by calling it a 'symbol of heritage.'
  McCain campaigned in Alabama for George Wallace Jr., a popular speaker the Council of Conservative Citizens, whose mission statement reads:
  'We believe that the U.S. derives from and is an integral part of European civilization and the European people and that the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character. We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the European-American people through so-called "affirmative action" and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the European-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races."
  
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    DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    ''"In 2000, McCain reversed himself ''
    McCain reverses himself so much his bathroom has to have two commodes and he has to stand in the middle of them when he wakes up in the morning
    
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If you vote for McCain, make sure you also see a psychiatrist

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  LOL!
  
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  Aidenag1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  speaking of psychiatry, McCain is now refusing to release his psychiatric records.
  http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/05/22/mc...
  
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    not2needy1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    He isn't even elected yet and already he and Cindy have worn out exec priv! lol
    
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  cushi1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  He's the perfect candidate for multiple choices! lol
  
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antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago

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Hagee swiftboated McCain in South Carolina with his whisper campaign. It a sign of just how low Grandpa super senior McCain will go to bend over and recieve his "endorcement".
Psssssst.......McCain's an atheist. Don't tell Hagee.

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So, where are all the people that were up in arms about Rev. Wright? Apparently "damning America" is a problem, but damning the Jews is just fine by them.
What hypocrisy.

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  antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Where are they? NewsCorp/Fox news, ABC/Disney/Israel news, CBS/Westinghouse news, General Electric/Microsoft/NBC news, CNN news, Viacom Radio/Rush Lamebaugh/Us and World News, and here on propeller/netscape/aol/time warner.
  
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    Bkumm1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Yeah, all of them and many more.
    
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Bkumm1 year, 5 months ago

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And isn't Hagee one of the big supporters of the "Rapture"? He's been to Israel some 20 times and supports the state of Israel against all comers as that state's existence is necessary, according to his interpretation of scripture, to bring about the end of the world and the return of Jesus.
How can people get sucked in by this hypocrisy?

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  antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  He can visit Isreal, but he doesn't have the dna to be a citizen of the ethnically cleansed state. Sorry evangelicals, from afar you can worship the jewish mythology, and the half jew/half god, but you can't buy a house in Israel.
  
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    Bkumm1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    You have to have Jewish ancestry to be an Israeli citizen?
    
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  Bkumm1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  You know, we've seen this before. We've seen where the appeasement of a demagogue can lead to horrible crimes against minorities, especially Jews.
  Some people think you can talk to these people, even accept their endorsement, but I think that leads to a situation like we had in 1932 when Hitler came to power because of speeches against certain minorities.
  
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    hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Speeches against certain minorities (although they existed) did not bring Hitler to power. Hitler came to power with the same kind of right-wing attacks on liberals, individualism and freedom that we now see in America. This book (by a jews who has seen both periods) is very instructive.
    Historical Comparisons: Fritz Stern Publishes "Five Germanys I Have Known"
    "Can It Happen Here?" is the headline of the NY Times review of the Fritz Stern's memoir:
    In November 2005, Fritz Stern received an award for his life's work on Germans, Jews and the roots of National Socialism, presented to him by Joschka Fischer, then the German foreign minister. With a frankness that startled some in the audience, Stern, an emeritus professor of European history at Columbia University, peppered his acceptance speech with the similarities he saw between the path taken by Germany in the years leading up to Hitler and the path being taken by the United States today.
    
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    DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    the words 'appeasement', 'crimes...against Jews', 'talk to these people' just makes me think of something else...
    I assume that was deliberate, and therefore brilliant
    
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jovial1 year, 5 months ago

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It's amazing isn't it? Not a peep from the Wright/Obama haters. It's politics. What's totally amazing is that the only argument that makes sense against this revelation is that McCain himself doesn't share those views. When Obama said that, the conservatives didn't want to believe it and pushed the issue even further. It's the old saying, "if you live in a glass house, don't throw any stones".

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  hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  McCain thinks he can win with the support of the ZionCons. Hagee has also sold his soul out to the Zioncons - indeed, as the organizer of the biggest "christian zionist" organization in America, Hagee just loves the idea of killing christian palestinians for the zionists. This article contains the names of many politicians associated with Hagee.
  Christians United for Israel: New Christian Zionism Lobby Hopes to Rival AIPAC
  http://www.democracynow.org/2006/8/15/christian...
  
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    antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Holy Crap!
    A couple weeks ago I was wondering why the news was so silent on the false reasons for the Iraq war, why wasn't it investigated.....
    So I started asking questions, and finding out who owns what, and following the money....
    Jesus on a freaking jetski.... what a convoluted twisted Beruit like world be live in, secret handshake, bizzare colitions, and these idiot evangelicals in mega churches...in bed with neocon billionaires who contol the media.
    You can't think up this crap.
    
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  cushi1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  But there are STILL trying to convict Obama and let McCain go free. The latest spin is: But McCain didn't sit under Hagee or Parsley for 20 years, listening to all that "hate speech!"
  These right wing, neocon ninnies are relentless and shameless in their hypocrisy!!
  
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simonsez1 year, 5 months ago

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It's time for God to take John (Hagee) home ...

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  PresidentBuckheadd1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  God should take McCain along too.
  
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    StillUnashamed1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    I can't understand people wishing for the death of others! Especially from those who say they hate hatred.
    
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  Shadowolf1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  ...just as long as HE don't recall ALL Johns...
  
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PresidentBuckheadd1 year, 5 months ago

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That dam McCain is such a freaking a** hole. I hate just listening to this story.. without it having the public shocked.. just a minority to hear this story.. Obama and Hillary must start using this story to end McCain's campaign!

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pcknowledge1 year, 5 months ago

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"Obama and Hillary must start using this story to end McCain's campaign!"
I couldn't agree more!

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Well keep in mind that Hagee is a typical "christian zionist" and runs one of the biggest support operations in America for zionist ethnic cleansing in Palestine. McCain is not the only smelly politician to consort with Hagee.
Are You Listening, Joe Lieberman?
Religion â;; Kudos to Rabbi Eric Yoffie, head of the Union for Reform Judaism, who has publicly spoken out against Jewish political cooperation with those Evangelicals who label themselves "Christian Zionists," with their most prominent organization - Christians United for Israel - and with its leader, Rev. John Hagee.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/04/04/...

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  Again, I have to point out, it is amazing for NONE of the network TV news are covering this.
  No national newspapers will touch it.
  I'm not sure if its the fear of being labled anti semetic, or just the knowledge that the money that is flowing from the teats of neocon billionaires will dry up quick.
  Or could it be that the media owners themselves have an intrest, as stake in the shell game.
  
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slate1 year, 5 months ago

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I don't look at videos like these, so I didn't look at this one. I will 'assume' it said the nasty things in the headline. There is no way to 'deflect' this sort of things being said, nor is there anyway to deflect and harm McCain's connection to this man anymore that Obama's to those connected to him. I actually like knowing these things well in advance of an election to be able to weigh them out with the other things known about a candidate.

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  jovial1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Bravo.
  
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  Well ani, as seen in the links above, the slimy goofball Hagee has been well connected with all kinds of GOP politcians. McCain, of course, said he was proud to have Hagee's support.
  McCain Proud Of John Hagee
  http://blip.tv/file/703427
  
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    lfergie8121 year, 5 months ago
    
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    ROFL I bet he's sorry now he made that statement.
    
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  jovial1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  7 years ago when those alleged statements were made both of Obama's daughters were too young to even listen. That's assuming they were even present. Sorry ani, you'll have to get a new talking point.
  
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  cushi1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I'm not sad....let them keep 'em!
  
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doppich1 year, 5 months ago

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Pandering to the religionists has its price, as Obams and McCain have now learned. I'm looking for an areligious candidate.

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  antibrainwasher1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Still illegal to run for office in Pennsylviania and someother state, I forget.
  Only one acknowledged athiest in congress.
  Side note.....
  Great article in NYTimes right now, the older retired jews don't think Obama is pro Israel enough.
  
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Lavb54741 year, 5 months ago

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Talk about the inmates running the asylum!!!!! These kind of people are just plain either evil or nut or both. Then they claim to be religious or Patriotic. Here's a samll list of the crazy's the Americans seem to listen to. Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Hagee, Wright the list goes on and on. Yet they seem to drown out any voices of reason. Listen to Obama, Clinton or McCain, not the idiots who think they are doing them a favor by endorsing them.

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Dionys1 year, 5 months ago

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Why? Hatred is hatred.
And only gives birth to more hatred and violence.

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  cloud151 year, 5 months ago
  
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  The truth is told.
  Hatred is hatred, whether it is Americans against Muslims, Muslims against Americans, christians against Jews, athiets against religious people, dems against republicans, republicans against dems, whites against blacks, blacks against whites, etc...Jesus we live in a depressing world now don't we.
  
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    Mutainia1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    The only thing I think I hate, is a mosquito in the night when I have to get up early for work.
    
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cushi1 year, 5 months ago

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Go doo your poo elsewhere!

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  Go doo your poo elsewhere!
  
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  Dionys1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  You can't literally interpret the OT or the NT, there are far too many internal conflicts of fact. Not to mention it was never, ever meant to be read literally.
  
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  DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  this idea of the New and Old testaments[the naming itself aids the perception] being mutually exclusive is a very strange one to me.
  Jesus quotes the Old book so many times in the New book you about have to read entire gospels to catch them all
  the problem perhaps comes from the OT being an odd mishmash of parable, Jewish history, dietary and other sundry laws, and visionary philosophy
  JC taps into 3 out of 4 of those aspects, ditching the cumbersome mosaic law to a great degree
  I think the 'Old and 'New' thing comes from Jesus replacing the Old Law with his 'New Law', and people think it means the whole books grouped as such and not Mosaic Law.
  
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    DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    I mean what was Ecclesiastes replaced with, a book containing quotes like 'I envied the dead more than the living, but more than both I envied he that was never born, and has never seen the evil under the sun'-was that replaced with a book by a cheerful guy?
    And was Isaiah replaced by a guy who wore more clothes? [he went about naked for 3 years]
    Was The Song of Solomon replaced by The Dirge of Dave?
    [Dave's not here man...]
    
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endtyranny1 year, 5 months ago

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This is a Republican party leader, he hates Muslims, Jews, Catholics, and this country. There is no reason for the media blackout of this guy's constant stream of venom. The msm spent weeks talking about Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, but these extremist anti American preachers who practically run the GOP get a complete free pass.

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