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Teagen1 year, 5 months ago
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I'm here what would you like to know? We're seeing progress daily. You might know that if you watched more than CNN.
As to keeping us here forever, that's what your leaders did after WW2 and Korea. We still have troops in Germany, Japan and South Korea. We're seeing a draw down currently and we're close to the pre-surge numbers.
As to being for either party, I'm not. I've never voted for the Dem before but it could happen if someone like a Zell Miller or JFK came along. Since they really have no one left in the DNC, I'm forced to support McCain.
As to children serving, I'm 4 generation military. So if I were blessed with kids, military is a fine career.
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Teagen1 year, 5 months ago
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Combat vet? I've read his ramblings. Just because he saw combat doesn't mean he speaks for me or my people. My father was a Marine officer assigned to the White House when JFK was in office. He thought the world of him too bad the party then doesn't exist today.
As to protecting your freedoms, you're very wrong. The information from Saddam's secret files clearly show he had every intention of striking America when possible. He never thought the US would actually invade after Bush 41 & Clinton. He broke rules in the peace agreement and we launched a few missiles.
You as a taxpayer couldn't afford the costs of a real draft. As to supporting a draft, I don't. I don't want your loser kids who are too stupid to get a deferment. I want people who love this country as much as I do serving with me. I want people who love their country more than life itself standing by my side.
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Will13131 year, 5 months ago
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My father was a Marine officer assigned to the White House when JFK was in office.
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some dangerous sh*t happening there..
a desk sitter.. calling out the grunts...
what a loser..
you clearly have no grasp of reality...
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BB641 year, 5 months ago
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This is her 4th trip to that region. She's no loser. Rather than early out with the F-14's she went to command school and served with a Marine air group. I don't know what happened but she earned their respect. This final time, she volunteered to go.
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Will13131 year, 5 months ago
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you'd be slightly bias.. since she's your wife... good luck to you...
what exactly is she.. the minister of propaganda..
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Teech1 year, 5 months ago
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What? Conscription? Are you insane?
No way will those God fearing, patriotic, flag waving, never have and never will serve in the military Neocons risk the hides of their precious children in bringing democracy and peace to Iraq.
The whole idea is to make a few billion in profits by sending somebody ELSE'S kids over there to get killed and maimed doing Gods will.
Praise the Lord - and pass the ammunition!
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Teagen1 year, 5 months ago
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While it was nice, I really don't need his help. I was a part of Fallon's team. While he decided to move into the private sector and retire early, I'm finishing my contract here. I really love what I'm doing.
As for being a minister or whatever, way too funny. I didn't know Parliament took over. Then again, since congress and the senate didn't do anything, I suppose a change is in order... Just kidding. I'm sure our leaders are doing something, what that is we'll never know, but I'm sure they're doing something.
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injest1 year, 5 months ago
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"the minister of propaganda.."
Propaganda would that be like this revelation that the Dems lied their a$$ off to get the useful idiot vote?
"But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts â;¦ and people ate it up."
Congressman admits Democrats "stretched the facts," misled anti-war supporters about supposed plans for ending War
http://jeffemanuel.net/paul-kanjorski-pa-11-adm...
"I'll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we...the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn't say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, we could stop the war. Now anybody was a good student of Government would know that wasn't true. But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts...and people ate it up."
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injest1 year, 5 months ago
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"Now anybody was a good student of Government," said Kanjorski, "would know that wasn't true [that they "could stop the war"]." Fortunately for those Democrats who campaigned, and were elected, based on their war-ending promises, their hardcore supporters, their activists, and their base of voters, are all made up of people who are, by Mr. Kanjorski's reckoning, very, very poor students of Government."
"people who are, by Mr. Kanjorski's reckoning, very, very poor students of Government."
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injest1 year, 5 months ago
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"This is her 4th trip to that region. She's no loser. Rather than early out with the F-14's she went to command school and served with a Marine air group."
Teagen! Gunslinger or Reaper?
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raza91 year, 5 months ago
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Well said baddad, It is important to underscore the fact tht these men/women have been put in harm's way by an administration & military system that values the many of instruments of war. Our care for them as friends, relatives, neighbors, and, fundamentally, our fellow-citizens should not be in doubt!
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saintetienne1 year, 5 months ago
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"Btw,i have a neice and nephew in Iraq now,and they don't agree with this war either,but they are soldiers and will do their jobs with honor as is expected of them.I would expect nothing less of them either,but that doesn't mean that we have to agree."
Huh. "Doing their jobs with honor", even though they don't want to be there? Even though they don't agree with the war in Iraq? How is THAT possible?
I'll tell you how. In the sociopathic mind of a Liberal, everything contradicts everything else, yet somehow seems reasonable to them.
Thanks for your service to our country, "baddad", but no thanks. Reading your comments, I can see you're one of the liberal malcontent veterans I spoke about in my post yesterday. A true veteran doesn't spit on his country or his government, and if he disagrees, he should disagree in silence, out of respect for his fellow veterans.
Your comments negate any service you've done.
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saintetienne1 year, 5 months ago
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No, I'm working and paying taxes to support the troops who support our country. And if there were any way to see to it that my taxes did NOT go to traitorous "baddad" - and his turncoat niece and nephew, who are "serving with honor" in Iraq - I would.
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Will13131 year, 5 months ago
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I'd love to see him do that rant face to face with baddad... that would be interesting and I'd bet probably FATAL...
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Will13131 year, 5 months ago
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could be a tie.. Saint would probably sh*t himself to death or at least slip in it and crack his head...
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Will13131 year, 5 months ago
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You only get to kill some one once,but whipping their azz multiple times..now thats entertainment and a lot more fun.
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yep, you don't have to be an ex-warrior.. to enjoy kicking the sh*t out of know it all's like him....
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alakazam1 year, 5 months ago
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You just called a person fighting in Iraq a turncoat...
You worthless piece of dung.
How DARE you!
Get off your ass and go fight or shut the !@#$ up.
You pay Taxes? So do they you ignorant ass.
And they are still there fighting for you just as much as for the rest of us.
You get the Award for the Worst Comment Ever.
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lfergie8121 year, 5 months ago
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saint, you are either grossly misinformed, a liar, or an idiot. A true patriotic veteran is concerned in the direction that this administration is taking this country. A person in the military is to do as he is told whether he agrees with it or not. The consequences of disobeying is sever. Once a person leaves the military he goes into a civilian life that allows him to think and form his own opinions. He has fought for his right to disagree with the leader of our country that was kept in the states by his father so he could avoid combat.
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lfergie8121 year, 5 months ago
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I agree but my comment was directed at saint's comment below.
"Reading your comments, I can see you're one of the liberal malcontent veterans I spoke about in my post yesterday A true veteran doesn't spit on his country or his government, and if he disagrees, he should disagree in silence, out of respect for his fellow veterans."
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icono11 year, 5 months ago
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Sant; I'm a vet and I will not disagree in silence for I have 'earned the right' to bitch and scream about my government.
Also, I do respect my fellow vets past, present and future.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 5 months ago
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saintetiennes said:
"A true veteran doesn't spit on his country or his government"
By spitting on his country, he means you have dared to doubt the wisdom of the president; and worse, you disagree with saintetienne.
These people regard you as a great threat, baddad; you cannot be a patriot or 'real' veteran if you question authority. Particularly if saintetienne is the authority.
Plastic patriotism; fake, bloodless, sweatless; the endless praising of oneself while standing at attention to the flag.
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djn3nunez31 year, 5 months ago
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"The information from Saddam's secret files clearly show he had every intention of striking America when possible"
After the way Ronnie's 'Valued Trading Partner" was treated by the first Bush, and the continued sanctions and bombings by Clinton Administration, certainly would give him motive. However he still lacked the means and oppurtunity. Not a threat worth an invasion and occupation that has cost countless lives.
"He broke rules in the peace agreement and we launched a few missiles."
Between 1999 and 2001, the U.S. and British-led air forces in Iraq dropped 1.3 million pounds of bombs in response to purported violations of the no-fly zones and anti-aircraft fire from Saddam Hussein.
By August of 1999, American and British pilots had fired more than 1,100 missiles against 359 targetsâ;;that year alone.
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lfergie8121 year, 5 months ago
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"The information from Saddam's secret files clearly show he had every intention of striking America when possible"
Don't forget the WMD's that Saddam was manufacturing but wait he hid them so well that they still haven't been found. He was going to place them on his new missiles that were capable of striking anywhere in the world but wait they haven't found those either.
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djn3nunez31 year, 5 months ago
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pssss,
"The information from Saddam's secret files clearly show he had every intention of striking America when possible"
That was the quote from teagan. But don't forget about the WMD on the ship steaming around in circles in the Indian ocean too. I wonder if it's still steaming around.....
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raza91 year, 5 months ago
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Teagen, I for one would like to say Thank You for your service. I do not agree with your point of view, however, I do appreciate your passion.
"The information from Saddam's secret files clearly show he had every intention of striking America when possible."
Why does everything with this administration have to be a secret? I guess with no evidence, there is no testimony, therefore no accountability.
The fact is, Iraq never attacked us. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. That leaves freeing Iraqis from Saddam's repressive rule as the sole rational for "war". Is the US in the liberation business? Will Bush spread "democracy" to Myamnar, Congo, Turkmenistan, Cambodia, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan or Laos, just to name a few places where people can't vote, speak freely or eat much?
The whole Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war and the recklessness of Bush diplomacy is causing alarm for citizens inside and outside the military.
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raza91 year, 5 months ago
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Teagen, I would like to Thank you for your service. I do not agree with your view, however, I appreciate your passion.
"The information from Saddam's secret files clearly show he had every intention of striking America when possible."
Why does everything with this administration have to be secret? Perhaps with out evidence, there can be no testimony, therefore no accountability.
The fact is Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. Iraq did NOT attack us. That leaves freeing Iraqis from Saddam's repressive rule as the sole rationale for war. Is the US in the liberation business? Will Bush spread 'democracy' to Myamnar, Congo, Turkmenistan, Cambodia, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan or Laos, just to name a few places where people can't vote, speak freely or eat much?
The whole Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war and the recklessness of Bush diplomacy is causing alarm for citizens inside and outside the military.
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jordan111 year, 5 months ago
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Combat vet? I've read his ramblings. Just because he saw combat doesn't mean he speaks for me or my people>>>>>
He didn't say he was speaking for you or your 'people.' But as you brought it up, he does speak for me and mine. And my 'people' go back to the Revolutionary War.
Now stop watching faux news, and educate yourself.
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Codi69341 year, 5 months ago
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Teagen
I have been saying the same thing for a year, but no one listens(about Saddam). I have mixed opinions about the draft. Basic training would have to change back to the old days, even before I came in '86. You would also have to change the pay scale, but that is for another time.
Keep it up, if enough of us talk often enough maybe someone will start to listen.
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Codi69341 year, 5 months ago
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What life was like when you were young. If you can't debate or argue your point then don't waste my time!
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 5 months ago
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Teagen:
"I don't want your loser kids "
You insult another soldier's kids because you disagree with them politicaly?
About baddad: "I've read his ramblings. Just because he saw combat doesn't mean he speaks for me or my people"
So you admit YOU don't speak for all soldiers?
You talk like they appointed you spokesman and anyone who disagrees with you is spitting on the flag.
"The information from Saddam's secret files clearly show he had every intention of striking America when possible"
This is flat wrong. A lengthy examination of all the documents collected showed he never mentioned attacking America. And that was the reason the Pentagon and whitehouse downplayed the report.
"I want people who love this country as much as I do serving with me"
Does that means people who agree with you? Then you don't love your country, you love yourself.
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PainGoddess1 year, 5 months ago
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Being a veteran of both desert wars and my family has been in all of the wars the since this country was founded. I think they should have the all volunteer force and just let more volunteer. The drawdown was not a good idea and it left gaps. Otherwise start putting signs up at the borders for anybody crossing that is under the age of thirty-five for forced induction. No deferments this time either. If you cannot fight you will go to work supporting the fight.
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injest1 year, 5 months ago
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"A draft would end this war in a heartbeat because all of the chickenhawks who support it would never go for a draft."
Based on what exactly?
Did a draft stop WW2, Korea or Vietnam? Nope, so what makes you belive that a draft would end this war?
Are you sure your not being lead by the nose again by the Dems? It's an election year and them dems will lie their A$$ off if it could get them elected just like they did in 06.
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Wolfie20071 year, 5 months ago
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".A draft would force people like libs who talk the talk to actually go and fight in this war they claim to support so much and we all know that libs and crew would never fight because they are cowards,therefore a draft would not work and cause the end of the war."
Your crass rudeness is to the point of being abusive. You don't know the "real circumstance" of many if any of us here on Propeller. You and others with the similar political leanings are always assuming too much when facts are not in evidence. Some people with impressive military records do not choose to talk about them and others do and that is alright, too.
Btw, calling people names only reflects back on the name caller as it shows that persons level of maturity and education.
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BB641 year, 5 months ago
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Then he won't be long for any key positions under control of the DNC. Their leadership is clearly anti-military and the draft clearly falls under that. On the topic of a draft, where are you getting the money for it? Cutting welfare, health care, education and housing for illegal aliens? It's funny how the DNC pitches the idea of starting a draft yet the GOP always gets the blame.
This whole topic is little more than the DNC playing political games.
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djn3nunez31 year, 5 months ago
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"As to keeping us here forever, that's what your leaders did after WW2 and Korea."
Apples to oranges. When was the last combat operation or bombing mission in Germany or Japan?
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Justice4All1 year, 5 months ago
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"You might know that if you watched more than CNN."
Faux news may paint a rosy picture by telling the chickenhawks what they want to hear. But I prefer to listen to people who have actually been over there and CNN is closer to what they have to report.
Things are not improving in Iraq.
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