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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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I give up - Propeller is acting CRAZY. I've been trying to post a reply to aniokly, NOT to lfergie812!!
ani --
Carter is much less senile than you may ever be.
No one knows for sure how many nukes Israel has because they won't TELL anyone.
EVERYONE knows that Israel has nukes, even though they refuse to acknowledge it.
Israel is NOT a signer of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Iran IS a signer of that treaty.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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antibrainwasher1 year, 7 months ago
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So we should declare war and destroy Iran, as an Israeli proxy.
The intersection of evangelicals and zionists and the super rich and their faux news murdock controlled brainwashed brown shirt facists.
The zionist believes that the jews were "chosen" by "god" to form a racially pure jewish religious state.
A christian zionist believes that by securing the "holy land", the jews are preparing the way for the rapture.
Israel does'nt need to or want to talk about its nuclear capacity, since it's completely indefenceable and hypocritical for them to have nukes and Iran not. Besides, the christians just love a holy war against muslims, why should they sacrifice their chosen children when they can have the brown shirt evangelical christians fight their wars?
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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Looks like the experts disagree with you.
"The International Atomic Energy Agency, in an unusually blunt and detailed report, said Monday that Iran's suspected research into the development of nuclear weapons remains "a matter of serious concern" and continues to need "substantial explanations."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/27/africa/2...
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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You want to bomb Iran for being "uncooperative".
Bush wanted to invade Iraq because he said Saddam was being "uncooperative". Oh, wait ... Bush DID invade Iraq.
And, the invasion occurred even though there were no WMDs, and even though the inspectors WERE still in Iraq and Iraq WAS still cooperating with them.
No wonder you love Bush and Cheney so much ... you apparently subscribe to there agenda instead of the truth and instead of diplomacy.
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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> Iran is threatening Israel, but Iran has no nuclear weapons, and there is NO proof that they are even trying to build any...
...and I'm still waitning for you to explain how will Iran possibly use those hundreds of medium-range (about 3200 kilometers) missiles it acquired during the last several years. These missiles cost about $3 Million a pop and are completely unuseable without warheads.
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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> WHAT proof is there that Iran has any of those "$3 Million a pop" missiles?
Here:
A senior commander of the Revolutionary Guard, the largest component of the Islamic republic's armed forces, chose this moment to outline the capability of his country's ballistic missiles.
Gen Koussechi added: "We have reached capacities that allow us to hit the enemy at a range of 2,000 kilometres."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/15634...
Are you suggesting that General Koussechi, a senior commander of the Revolutionary Guard, the largest component of the Islamic republic's armed forces, is A LIAR and that YOU know better? If so can you show your credentials?
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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According to the URL you provided, the U.S. had said that they had identified 2000 targets in Iran. I expect that Koussechi wanted to counter that threat.
I believe, as the article put it, he engaged in a response in the "war of words" between Iran and the U.S.
I don't know that Koussechi is lying, nor do I know that he is telling the truth - and neither do you.
If you think he is telling the truth, you have to take his word for it, because him SAYING that they have those missiles is not proof that they do have them.
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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> WHAT proof is there that Iran has any of those "$3 Million a pop" missiles?
Here:
A senior commander of the Revolutionary Guard, the largest component of the Islamic republic's armed forces, chose this moment to outline the capability of his country's ballistic missiles.
Gen Koussechi added: "We have reached capacities that allow us to hit the enemy at a range of 2,000 kilometres."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/15634...
Are you saying that General Koussechi, a senior commander of the Revolutionary Guard, the largest component of the Islamic republic's armed forces, is A LIAR and that YOU know better? If so can you show your credentials?
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Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
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"These missiles cost about $3 Million a pop and are completely unuseable without warheads. "
They're completely useable with conventional warheads. Last time I checked the US has plenty of medium-range (not to mention long-range) missiles with conventional warheads.
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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> They're completely useable with conventional warheads.
Yes, of course. The question is who will be willing to pay $3 million to deliver some conventional explosives over 2000 kilometers hoping to damage a building within a radius of 10 kilometers at best... especially considering the tremendous success of such missiles Saddam used against Israel during the first Guld war.
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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Per to the URL you provided, the U.S. had said that they had identified 2000 targets in Iran. I expect that Koussechi wanted to counter that threat.
I believe, as the article put it, he engaged in a response in the "war of words" between Iran and the U.S.
I don't know that Koussechi is lying, nor do I know that he is telling the truth - and neither do you.
If you think he is telling the truth, you have to take his word for it, because him SAYING that they have those missiles is not proof that they do have them.
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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I do not have any reasons to think that General Koussechi is lying considering HUNDREDS(!) of reports supporting his claims. You may, of course, pretend to know nothing about anything if you wish giving me a reason to support MY claims... like this one, for example:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename...
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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Ok ... one test of a missile. So they had at least one of those missiles. I suppose they could have more.
But - again - how many and how good they are or what they are, you don't know unless you can find an article where someone conducted an inventory and published it.
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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As I've said there are HUNDREDS of articles about Iranian missiles and their capabilities. It is pretty boring, however, to continue this process of arguing an epitome of denial. In addition, I do not think that YOU believe your own claims about Iran not having missiles.
You know how they call people that do not believe their own claims, don't you?
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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Let us suppose for a moment (LOL...) that General Koussechi DID NOT lie and that those hundreds of reports and TV documentaries about Iranian missiles are NOT fake...
... HOW will Iran possibly use these missiles without nuclear warheads considering that conventional warheads are about as usable with such missiles as concrete blocks? Are Iranian leaders SO DUMB that they're willing to send hundreds of Millions to be able to destroy a couple of random buildings in larger Tel Aviv triggering massive Israeli (and, probably, American) response?
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Thinker221 year, 7 months ago
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> Those missiles are completely useable with conventional warheads.
Yes, they are. As I've explained on multiple occassions one has to be pretty dumb to use them this way considering Saddam's experience with SCUD missiles during the first Gulf war. You see, such missile is capable of delivering up to one ton of conventional explosives over a pretty long distance. The best one can hope to achieve with such action is to damage a random building within a 10-kilometer radius, possibly killing one or even several people. Is it worth paying $3 million for it?
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Daylight1 year, 7 months ago
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DropkickaLib
Isreal has had nuclear weapons since before the 1973 Yom Kippur War and has never used or threatened to use them. Iran is already threatening Isreal and hasn't even finished weapons development.
Any Muslim country has the right to threaten Israel or even go to war with Israel because Israel doesn't belong here and Israel is an illegal entity supported by Zionists of the US and Europe. They are sitting on the land of the Jews, Christians and Muslims and over 7 million Palestinians are refugees and they have no been allowed to return home.
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