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Posted By TechnologyExpert 1 year, 6 months ago in NewsFormer U.S. President Jimmy Carter says Israel has a nuclear arsenal of 150 weapons.
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1-2-Oscar1 year, 6 months ago
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The size of Israel's nuclear arsenal has been one of the worst-kept "secrets" in the world. If US officials are embarrassed or distressed by Carter's "revelation," it is only because they have allowed themselves to be a party to an official deceit. It makes it a little harder for them to justify their opposition to the Iranian nuclear program, but it won't make any significant difference in US support for Israel, nor will it be used as a basis to create (at long last) a rational policy toward other nations in the region.
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berkeley1 year, 6 months ago
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there are many links to their program.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/index.html
Mordechai Vanunu spent 18 years in prison and remains under restrictions because of the weapons israel "doesn't have."
the united nations follows the official line as well. it's just that EVERY country knows the truth about both the bombs and the means of delivery.
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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> Mordechai Vanunu spent 18 years in prison and remains under restrictions because of the weapons israel "doesn't have."
Sorry but this is a lie (just another lie in your long list...)
Vanunu spent 18 years in prison because HE WAS A SPY. Other countries (including the US) EXECUTED people like him for spying during a war. Vanunu was lucky.
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Daylight1 year, 6 months ago
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The size of Israel's nuclear arsenal has been one of the worst-kept "secrets" in the world. If US officials are embarrassed or distressed by Carter's "revelation," it is only because they have allowed themselves to be a party to an official deceit. It makes it a little harder for them to justify their opposition to the Iranian nuclear program, but it won't make any significant difference in US support for Israel, nor will it be used as a basis to create (at long last) a rational policy toward other nations in the region.
Finally I find somebody made a sensible comment.The truth is any Western country can have any amount of any weapon but Muslim countries should not have them and that is considered a threat to Israel but Israel can threaten, invade, occupy and destroy any country in the region with the support of the United States of America. So the question here is how the so called peace can be brought about in the region?
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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"Hey, Moonlight. Which is more unnerving for the world? Israel with nukes or Iran with nukes? "
Let's look at history. Which two nations have consistantly invaded other nations in the Middle East on a large scale, claimed territory that wasn't theirs and killed hundreds of thousands of Arabs with their actions.
That's right. The US and Israel.
Which nation less than a year ago drew up plans for a limited tactical nuclear strike on Iran?
Israel again.
Huh.
If Iran was going to invade Israel, they would do it in a conventional manner, thus making it much less likely that Israel would feel justified in striking out with their nuclear weapons. Or they would provide weaponry to Hamas in Palestine that was much more accurate and destructive than their current weaponry.
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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"Let's look at history. Which two nations have consistantly invaded other nations in the Middle East on a large scale, claimed territory that wasn't theirs and killed hundreds of thousands of Arabs with their actions." IF what you say is true, how come America hasn't nuked Saudi Arabia and swiped the oil? How come Israel hasn't nuked Mecca? ARE gas prices going down?
"That's right. The US and Israel." Not so, O "I'm not a Muslim".
"Which nation less than a year ago drew up plans for a limited tactical nuclear strike on Iran? Israel again." Gee, I just can't understand WHY, can you? :)
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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"Huh. If Iran was going to invade Israel, they would do it in a conventional manner, thus making it much less likely that Israel would feel justified in striking out with their nuclear weapons." Rockets fired from Lebanon and Gaza neighborhoods? Israel hasn't launched out with it's nukes yet.
"Or they would provide weaponry to Hamas in Palestine that was much more accurate and destructive than their current weaponry." Ever heard of the Islamic "death by a thousand cuts"? SURE they could provide the enemies of Israel with better weapons, O "I'm not a Muslim", but, maybe Iran is biding it's time FOR such an attack from it's henchmen, Hamas and Hezebola?
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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"Huh. If Iran was going to invade Israel, they would do it in a conventional manner, thus making it much less likely that Israel would feel justified in striking out with their nuclear weapons." Rockets fired from Lebanon and Gaza neighborhoods?
"Or they would provide weaponry to Hamas in Palestine that was much more accurate and destructive than their current weaponry." Ever heard of the Islamic "death by a thousand cuts"? SURE they could provide the enemies of Israel with better weapons, O "I'm not a Muslim", but, maybe Iran is biding it's time FOR such an attack from it's henchmen, Hamas and Hezebola?
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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> Or they would provide weaponry to Hamas in Palestine that was much more accurate and destructive than their current weaponry.
According to UN Resolution 3314 such actions would be a bona fide act of aggression justifying Israeli military response... and as I've explained above Israel does not have many response ways to choose from.
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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"According to UN Resolution 3314 such actions would be a bona fide act of aggression justifying Israeli military response... and as I've explained above Israel does not have many response ways to choose from. "
Well they have no problem dropping cluster bombs in civilian areas violating UN Resolutions.
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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And if they DID drop those cluster bombs on them, it was probably in response from rockets and missiles being fired FROM those civilian areas inTO the civilian areas of Israeli neighborhoods. But, HOW taqqiya of you to not mention that, O "I'm not a Muslim". :)
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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> ...they have no problem dropping cluster bombs in civilian areas violating UN Resolutions.
Can you elaborate on this? I'm interested to know which UN Resolutions Israel violated by dropping cluster bombs in civilian areas used by Hezbollah to launch thousands of missiles against Israeli civilian areas... ifyou don't mind, of course.
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PoliticsIsCriminal1 year, 6 months ago
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"If what you say is true, how come America hasn't nuked Saudi Arabia and swiped the oil?
No Need to, now that we are stealing the oil in Iraq.
"How come Israel hasn't nuked Mecca?"
Oil Pipeline from Iraq to Israel (Haifa) is still under construction. U.S. Deaths for Israel, as usual.
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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That attitude by anti-american zioncons like you is why we should initiate immediate oil, economic and investment sanctions against israel. We should then then replace the racist zionist state of israel with a UN protectorate for ALL of palestine that guarantees equal rights for christians, moslems and jews.
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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> If Iran was going to invade Israel, they would do it in a conventional manner...
I'm not sure what you know about the geography of the Middle East but for Iran to attack Israel "in a conventional manner" would be pretty tricky considering that Iranian armies would have to cross Syria and, possibly, Jordan and Lebanon. I doubt that either one of these countries would be willing to become a battlefield between the Israelis and the Iranians.
> ...thus making it much less likely that Israel would feel justified in striking out with their nuclear weapons.
Harldy. Israel will have very few choices to respond to an Iranian attack. Please consider that Israel does not have strategic bombers, aircraft carries or millions of troops.
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Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago
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Go back a ways in your history. At the time of Muhammad Islam was a part of the Arabic Peninsula. Islam then burst out and had a convert or be killed for everyone except the people of the book and many of those were killed to gather booty. From North Africa to India. North to France being turned back at Tours. Northeast to Vienna being turned back there. Killing and sacking the people conquered was their tradition.
Over 60% of the Jews in Israel before 1948 were Middle Eastern Jews who were running away from the Muslim attacks on them. Just keeping the dhimmi's under control. Kill some, burn homes and synagogue's, take what they have, etc. Just being good little Muslims. Trying to force them to convert.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 6 months ago
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Are you implying that terrorist state Israel is TRUSTWORTHY? It is idiotic to trust any of these Near Eastern theocracies or petty dictatorships. Any of them will do anything they perceive to be in their best interest without even a passing thought for the rest of the world. Heck with all of them. No more money, no more arms, NO TROOPS EVER AGAIN. Buy oil if anyone can stabilize part of the region long enough to pump it and ship it. We clearly have no qualms about whom we buy from: we buy from the Saudis! Sheesh. Disengage and shun.
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Edmar141 year, 6 months ago
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Tkyrchncs, you and Dionys are not only historically ignorant, but stupid as well. Israel never attacked or occupied anybody. In 1967, Israel was on the verge of being attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. They chose a pre-emptive strike in which they destroyed the opposition's air power. They were then attacked on three fronts. Israel took only the areas that had been used as launching points against them. They never entered any other area. The war was fought on the West Bank, Gaza, and the Sinai. These areas were taken by Israel as a buffer against future attacks. These areas were never part of Egypt, Syria or Jordan to begin with. The Sinai, the West Bank the Gaza Strip and the Golan heights were taken by Egypt, Jordan and Syria 19 years before in warfare. These areas were never their territory to begin with. They were all part of the Ottoman empire. So your statement that these lands were invaded and occupied are correct. Egypt, Jordan and Syria invaded and occupied them.
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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Hey, Edmar14. It's hard to argue with those who believe anyone who DOESN'T perform five times a day of butt in the air will have his or her skin burned off and replaced, daily, throughout eternity in hell. And, if such a fate awaits, then that person must be pure evil AND a liar. Being so the case, since Jews are supposed to get it the worst in Islamic hell, they HAVE to believe all those hateful lies said about Israel in Hamas children's TV. Have you seen "Farfur"? If not, I'll paste the YouTube site for it in this thread.
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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"Hey, Edmar14. It's hard to argue with those who believe anyone who DOESN'T perform five times a day of butt in the air will have his or her skin burned off and replaced, daily, throughout eternity in hell. "
Where do you get this garbage? Anti-Islamist KKK sites?
That is possibly some of the most abbhorent lying I've seen yet spew out of your mouth.
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Daylight1 year, 6 months ago
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Where do you get this garbage? Anti-Islamist KKK sites?
That is possibly some of the most abbhorent lying I've seen yet spew out of your mouth.
Well said, Mutainia is an idiot who will buy anything that is sold to him on the walkways.
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Edmar141 year, 6 months ago
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Then, Dionys, you are historically stupid. Those are facts that every reputable historian knows to be true. Obviously, you know nothing of the Ottoman empire, WWI, the league of Nations, the British Mandate, the 1948 war or the 1967 war. If you did, you wouldn't make yourself look like the horse's behind. Go do your reasearch, but use credible sources.
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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"Where do you get this garbage? Anti-Islamist KKK sites?" Not KKK sites, O "I'm not a Muslim", but, from reading the three ENGLISH versions of the Quran that the 45 British Islamic MEDICAL doctors must have been reading before trying to blow up two Scottish airports.
"That is possibly some of the most abbhorent lying I've seen yet spew out of your mouth." Would you like scriptures and verses FROM the Quran to support what I say, O "I'm not a Muslim"? :)
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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Hey, folks, I've brought it up before of how Allah REALLY seems to have hell awaiting Jews. Daylight, on the other hand, said, "No, the one who get it worst in hell are the hypocrites." But, that can't be the truth because, Quran 3:28 and 16:106 MAKES hypocrites of MUSLIMS! READ those two Quranic scriptures, and, you'll see what I mean.
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Edmar141 year, 6 months ago
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I have seen farfur several times and what I find very interesting is that Jews are not taught to hate arabs in their schools. You won't find a single credible educational film in the Jewish world that promotes hatred of the Arabs. That's the difference between civilized people and barbarians- their level of tolerance.
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Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago
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Everyone likes to forget Jordan's original name. Trans Jordan. The border between Jordan and Israel was the Jordan River. Jordan captured the West Bank in the 1948 war. Egypt captured the Sinai and Gaza at the some time. Nobody was screaming about what happened then. Israel takes it back and everybody screams loudly. Why?
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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"Tkyrchncs, you and Dionys are not only historically ignorant, but stupid as well. Israel never attacked or occupied anybody. "
Really? You should talk to the Lebanese about that, then. Because they see it a little differently. Or maybe to the Palestinians.
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Edmar141 year, 6 months ago
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Actually all of the arabs see it differently, but history isn't changed just because you don't like what it says. That's not only stupidity, that's living on another planet. Israel just took what Egypt, Jordan and Syria took 19 years earlier. For 400 years, it was part of the Ottoman empire.
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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And YOU, O "I'm not a Muslim", NEVER will ask WHY Israel invaded Lebanon in 1981 and 2006, WILL you? No, you don't want to go there. Muslims want to believe THEIR version of history, not the history of those the Quran says will have their skins burned off and replaced, daily, throughout eternity in hell.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 6 months ago
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Israel in its very foundation is bigoted and cruel and there is a large litany of aggression against non-Jews and terrorism abroad. Educate yourself in these matters. I have on numerous threads provided links to the specifics, but all you need to do is search. They are not allies of ours. They are greedy demanding children of ours, and I for one think it is time to kick them out of the nest. I do not believe in any explicit or implicit right of any nation to exist, and I see no advantage to US to support the existence of this particular one. What are we getting for our money and efforts? They are neither better nor worse than any of their neighbors, but they certainly are costly. We need to just leave this area to its own conflicts, offering mediation and diplomacy to promote peace, and ONLY THAT.
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Daylight1 year, 6 months ago
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They are not allies of ours. They are greedy demanding children of ours, and I for one think it is time to kick them out of the nest.
Well said:
For the last two thousand years they have been engaged in all sorts of crimes against humanity. And the worse sufferers have been those nations who committed the blunder of opening their doors to this highly insidious cabal. If we just look at the history of the recent past the truth of this statement would be quite manifest. They were turned out of Portugal and Spain. They were driven out of England in 1920. They were twice pushed away from France, once in 1306 and again in 1394. They were exiled from Belgium in 1370 and from Czechoslovakia in 1380. Holland drove them out in 1944 ad Italy rid itself of them in 1540. Germany pushed them out in 1551. Russia exiled them in 1510. Indeed excitement has been their lot since the beginning; and if we look at the earlier history too, we will find that they have met the same fate all along
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tkyrchncs1 year, 6 months ago
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Do not mistake me, Daylight. I have nothing against anyone's religion, as long as it is practiced in peace, with tolerance for those who do not practice it. It is this strange, very expensive, support we show for certain nations in the Near East, especially our military support. Israel is not alone in this category, Saudi Arabia is right in there too. It is our idiotic involvement in Iraq and our hypocritical condemnation of Iran and not Israel over nuclear capabilities. I want us disengaged from the whole area, except for commerce and diplomacy.
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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Dimwit, I mean daylight, when did Israel invade or even threaten Iran with invasion? On peace in the region, have you guys run out of missile and mortars? Every time you turn around someone from Lebanon, Syria or Jordan is launching something into Israel. Last summer, I think in June or July, Israel's Mossad took corrective action against a Syrian sight that had chemical, biological or nuclear weapons being prepped for something. Rather than only attacking Israel's defenses perhaps you'd prefer to comment on the sight. It's rumored to be in Syria and staffed by Iranians. No I suppose you wouldn't want to comment on that now would you...
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Daylight1 year, 6 months ago
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Dimwit, I mean daylight, when did Israel invade or even threaten Iran with invasion? On peace in the region, have you guys run out of missile and mortars? Every time you turn around someone from Lebanon,
It's not that I don't want to commentbut I believe that every country has the right to match their weapons with their hostile neighbors. I don't consider Israel has any right to be where they are now. If you ask me that if they have the right to live yes but not as a country but as citizens of Palestine under the Palestinian rule, this the opinion of the religious Jewish people and their Rabbis. I am not against the Jewish people or Christians. It is the Zionist who cause the problem in the region and America is the only country in the world that could change the course of this world. There is no other way that this problem could be solved or one day we are going to face a terrible war that will kill millions of people and the world is going to pay for being inactive.
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rightfromwrong1 year, 6 months ago
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we all know of the hypocrisy of US foreign policy regarding the Middle East. Every vote in the UN on Israel occupation of Palestinian land was vetoed by the US. Palestine is a jail now and the USA continues to give Israel billions & billions of $ every year and the latest technological defense weapons. Shame on America.
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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> USA continues to give Israel billions & billions of $ every year and the latest technological defense weapons. Shame on America.
Well, if the US did not support Israel the Arabs and Iran would try to "erase it from the map" and Israel would, probably, have no choice but to fight back turning the attackers into piles of radioactive trash. As a result, an average American would have to pay $50 or more for a gallon of gas. Apparently, it makes perfect sense for the US (and, probably, the rest of the civilized world) to prevent this from happening.
Regarding "occupation of Palestinian land" please consider that a sovereign independent state was offered to Palestinian Arabs in 1948, 1967, 1978, 2000, 2001 and they've REJECTED IT EVERY SINGLE TIME. It seems that they like the occupation and are doing everything in their abilities for the occupation to continue.
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Georgia501 year, 6 months ago
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Actually, what we give Israel is billions of dollars in credits to buy US army toys. When Israel developed its own knockoff F-16 at bargain basement prices, it was the US defense lobby that marched up Capitol Hill and demanded our leaders put an end to its development. The price? You guessed it...a nice package of F-16s.
But all is not lost. Our combat aircraft designs are the best in large part due to the incredible, priceless air combat feedback from Israeli pilots.
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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> When Israel developed its own knockoff F-16 at bargain basement prices, it was the US defense lobby that marched up Capitol Hill and demanded our leaders put an end to its development. The price? You guessed it...a nice package of F-16s.
Not exactly. It was the IAF (Israeli Air Force) that preferred to buy American-made F-16 instead of Israeli own Lavi... and no, the Lavi was functionally better but twice more expensive than the F-16 (low volumes, you know...) The IAF General in charge preferred to have twice as many F-16 for the same budget killing the Lavi and causing thousands of Israeli Aircraft Industry workers to lose their jobs. He made the right decision.
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Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago
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"Israel occupation of Palestine." What a crock. During WW1 the plan for a Jewish state was made. It started with a paper in the British government and was taken up by the League of Nations.Jews during that time were fleeing persecution from the Muslims all over the Middle east. Look at the census of people in those areas over those years. They dawdled around until after WW2. Jew were a large majority in Israel when the countries were created in 1948. Who attacked who? Who took territory from the other and kept it?
Your hypocrisy is showing through.
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Daylight1 year, 6 months ago
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we all know of the hypocrisy of US foreign policy regarding the Middle East. Every vote in the UN on Israel occupation of Palestinian land was vetoed by the US. Palestine is a jail now and the USA continues to give Israel billions & billions of $ every year and the latest technological defense weapons. Shame on America.
American elites are greedy, they will never be ashamed to do anything for oil and money.
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injest1 year, 6 months ago
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"how a future U.S. president should deal with the Iranian nuclear threat,
Carter put the risk in context by listing atomic weapons held globally."
"The U.S. has more than 12,000 nuclear weapons, the Soviet Union (Russia) has about the same, Great Britain and France have several hundred, and Israel has 150 or more."
Jimmy Dufess Which one of the countries think Armageddon would be a GOOD thing?
Only one Jimmy and that's Iran (Okay and the invisible killer Rabbit)
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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Since when has anyone in Iran said that Armageddon is a "GOOD" thing?
If you are looking for someone that wants to bring about Armageddon, look in THIS country and look straight at John Hagee and his "Christians United for Israel".
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1...
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/tran...
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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"Since when has anyone in Iran said that Armageddon is a "GOOD" thing?"
Ahmadinejad?
He (Ahmadinejad) sees his main mission, as he recounted in a Nov. 16, 2005, speech in Tehran, as to "pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance."
With Iran's continued development of nuclear technology in defiance of the West, some analysts fear Ahmadinejad's intent is to trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?A...
The Islamic Republic of Iran broadcasting website said in a program called "The World toward Illumination," that the Mahdi will form an army to defeat the enemies of Islam in a series of apocalyptic battles, in which the Mahdi will overcome his archvillain in Jerusalem.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?A...
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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Scott Peterson of the Christian Science Monitor shows the centrality of mahdaviat in Mr. Ahmadinejad's outlook and explores its implications for his policies.
As mayor of Tehran, for example, Mr. Ahmadinejad appears to have in 2004 secretly instructed the city council to build a grand avenue to prepare for the Mahdi. A year later, as president, he allocated $17 million for a blue-tiled mosque closely associated with mahdaviat in Jamkaran, south of the capital. He has instigated the building of a direct Tehran-Jamkaran railroad line. He had a list of his proposed cabinet members dropped into a well adjacent to the Jamkaran mosque, it is said, to benefit from its purported divine connection.
He often raises the topic, and not just to Muslims. When addressing the United Nations in September, Mr. Ahmadinejad flummoxed his audience of world political leaders by concluding his address with a prayer for the Mahdi's appearance
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3258
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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Ok ... I stand corrected on Ahmadinejad and Armageddon.
I guess Ahmadinejad and Hagee should get together. Other than the 2 different Gods, they have have a lot in common.
Hagee's "Christians United for Israel" is a 'front' for their desire to bring about the Rapture - one of the 'signs' of the Rapture is for Israel to return to its homeland.
But, only "Christians" will be 'saved' via the Rapture, so all Jews that have not 'converted' will not be saved. Hagee's group is not really a 'friend' to Israel at all ....
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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Bubba
I would agree with you that both Ahmadinejad and Hagee are nuts. BUT Ahmadinejad is a dangerous nut - can you even imagine a nuclear weapon under his control?
I listened to Ahmadinejad's UN speech but had no idea what he was talking about when he mentioned the Mahdi's appearance
A week or 2 after his speech, I went out to lunch with 2 friends - both Muslims. They were talking about what Ahmadinejad had said
They explained what he was talking about and the fact that Ahmadinejad believes his purpose on earth is to pave the way for the Mahdi's return
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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Hagee and his group don't have, in and among themselves, political power 'per se'.
BUT, Hagee has the 'ear' of Bush and Bush listens to him. Hagee is among the real reasons that Bush wants to invade and/or bomb Iran.
That IS dangerous ....
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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" I guess Ahmadinejad and Hagee should get together. Other than the 2 different Gods, they have have a lot in common. "
People aren't really this ignorant, are they?
The God of the Muslims is the God of the Christians is the God of the Jews. The 'Abrahamaic' God.
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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"I would expect that Hagee would NOT agree with you. I doubt that Hagee thinks he 'worships' the same God that Ahmadinejad 'worships'. "
That may be, but he's certainly not a theologian or a follower of scripture if he asserts to the contrary.
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Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago
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"The God of the Muslims is the God of the Christians is the God of the Jews. The 'Abrahamaic' God." And YOU say you aren't a Muslim! LOL. ONLY a Jihadist says that, and, probably says it to get the guard down of Christians and Jews in the hopes that they'd NEVER believe Surah 9:1-5 is for THIS day and age. :)
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injest1 year, 6 months ago
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"If you are looking for someone that wants to bring about Armageddon, look in THIS country and look straight at John Hagee and his "Christians United for Israel"."
And how many tons of enriched uranium does Hagee have?
How many centrifuges does Hagee have?
Does Hagee have any missiles?
NONE
And how many tons of enriched uranium does Iran?
80 ton's delivered
How many centrifuges does Iran have?
6 K plus
Does Iran have any missiles?
Yes
Did the last missile Iran test fired have a range of 2,500 km?
Yes
Shihab 3 with a range of 2,500 km
Qadr and the Ashura with ranges of up to 2,000 km
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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How many centrifuges and missiles does the U.S. have? A WHOLE LOT!
http://www.brookings.edu/projects/archive/nucwe...
How many tons of enriched uranium does the U.S. have? Again, A WHOLE LOT! (see above URL)
How many long range missiles does the U.S. have? A WHOLE LOT!
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/nuclear_w...
And -- how many of all those U.S. weapons would Hagee LOVE for Bush to use on Iran? ALL of them.
Bush listens to Hagee. Again ... THAT IS DANGEROUS!
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 6 months ago
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injest:
The invisible killer rabbit named Bush, Cheney and the neocons who think armageddon will whisk them away to heaven.
They will be left behind wondering what they did wrong.
Heres a hint. Don't try to force God's hand he will do things in his time. Not ours.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 6 months ago
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Endoscopy:
Your opinion means about as much as a fly to me as to what I know about being a Christian.
Try looking at your stuffed shirt attitude and you'll see the very thing Jesus warned the hypocrites about.
Take the beam out of your eye so you might be able to see the sliver in mine and remove it from mine.
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Natureboy1 year, 6 months ago
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"Jimmy Dufess Which one of the countries think Armageddon would be a GOOD thing?"
Unfortunately, many of the religious right nutjobs here in the USA agree, thinking that that would bring "the rapture," etc. And some of those whackjobs are in our federal government setting policy.
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BigBadJohn6661 year, 6 months ago
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Daylight1 year, 6 months ago
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Jimmy Carter is an ignorant fool and should be locked up.
Yeah, he is an ignorant fool if he doesn't support the Zionist crimes in the region. He should support Israel for everything they do to systematically eliminate the Palestinians after slowly stealing their land, destroying their crops and poisoning the water that they drink and also they kill Palestinian men, women and children. These are crimes Jimmy Cart should approve and then sing the praise of Israel.
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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Actually Carter represents the finest traditions of american democracy. What we should take note of is all the zionist traitors in America who attack Carter for telling the truth. We should then investigate whether their primary loyalty is to America - and revoke their citizenship if not.
Dual Citizenship -- Loyal to Whom?
Do No Evil â;; So, you might ask, are there any other dual Israel-American citizens who hold US government positions that could compromise American security? Yes....
http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/03/05/...
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automan9091 year, 6 months ago
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Jimmi was told by our government not to go and suck up to Hammas. He did it any way.
He should be arrested and waterboarded.
If you wanna blame Nixon for carters blunders then I'll just blame Clinton for Bushes' blunders. Fair is fair.
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djn3nunez31 year, 6 months ago
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"Jimmi was told by our government not to go and suck up to Hammas"
Well that's freedom for ya.
"He should be arrested and waterboarded."
Well that fascism for ya.
"If you wanna blame Nixon for carters blunders then I'll just blame Clinton for Bushes' blunders"
Paul Volcker, the Carter-appointed head of the Federal Reserve, jammed interest rates up to national-heart-attack levels and left them there until inflationary expectations were well and truly tamed.
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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How do you figure that? Jobs were leaving the USA. Inflation and mortgage were out of control. We gave up the Canal, was loosing the Cold War and had a president that was too chicken to even stand up to a bunch of Islamic students. America lost it's confidence in him with good reason.
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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Wow, if your ideas of communism are so great, I'll give you the plane fair to travel to North Korea or Cuba. I'm sure both countries would find you work. Trickle up? Did you stay up all night playing in your mommy's basement coming up with that one? Oh, let me guess, you're an unemployed air traffic controller still mad about being fired, right?
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automan9091 year, 6 months ago
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Clinton gave nuke secrets to China, ignored catching Bin Laden when we could have, Ignored terrorism while chasing Monica around the White House with his cigar, Ignored the sleeper cell that did the 911 attack during their planning and flight training, lied under oath, lost his license to practice law, Infringed on the Second Amendment with his stupid Brady Bill, and stole the furniture in the White House when he left.
A real class act.
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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Totally incorrect.
Read this about China and WHEN they got their hands on most of those 'secrets'.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/110305.html
The REPUBLICANS totally IGNORED the growing threat of Bin Laden and al Qaeda because THEY were too busy chasing Clinton for 8 years trying to "get" him on something. All they could come up with was lying about sex.
There was no "opportunity" for Clinton to capture Bin Laden. That is a total myth made up by the Republicans to try to discredit him. The 9/11 Commission reports debunk that myth.
Clinton's administration compiled a HUGE amount of intelligence data on Bin Laden and al Qaeda - when they handed all that data over to Bush and Rice, they ignored it.
The FBI and the CIA screwed up by not talking to each other about the intelligence data they had gathered regarding the suspicicious events such as the flight training.
Bush IGNORED the August 2001 PDB that was practically an invitation to the 9/11 event.
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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So how do you explain this?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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That is a TOTAL MYTH. That never happened - there is no documentation to support that and plenty of documentation to debunk it.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200503120002
http://mediamatters.org/items/200609110001
http://dir.salon.com/story/politics/feature/200...
Try reading the 9/11 Commission report to get your head straight on that and a load of other facts.
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/pdf/fullreport.pdf
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Norma1561 year, 6 months ago
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BTW, automan909, do you know that Susan Rice, the undersecretary of state for Clinton who was the point person when Sudan begged us (three times) to take Bin Laden off their hands, is Obama's chief foreign policy advisor? Nay, nay, she said with Clinton's approval and Madeline's acquiescence. We can't touch him. Why that might be controversial.
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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That is a TOTAL MYTH. That never happened - there is no documentation to support that and plenty of documentation to debunk it.
You have watched that ABC TV movie one too many times - total fabrication.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200609110001
Try reading the 9/11 Commission report to get your head straight on that and a load of other facts.
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/pdf/fullreport.pdf
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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U.S. Was Foiled Multiple Times in Efforts To Capture Bin Laden or Have Him Killed
The government of Sudan, employing a back channel direct from its president to the CIA, offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest bin Laden and place him in Saudi custody, according to officials and former officials in all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer in secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at a Rosslyn hotel on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort 10 weeks later. Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept bin Laden, and lacking a case to indict him in U.S. courts at the time, the Clinton administration finally gave up on the capture.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagena...
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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Osama bin Laden: missed opportunities
NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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That WP article you provided has been twisted by neocons to distort the facts in the article.
The very first sentence of that article says only that Sudan offered to "arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in Saudi custody."
The article then detailed efforts by the White House and the State Department to convince the Saudis to accept custody of Bin Laden, which the authorities in Riyadh adamantly refused.
Nowhere does the article state that Sudan agreed to "hand bin Laden over to the United States", because that never happened.
That turned out to be another myth and was debunked by the 9/11 Commission after extensive interviews with all pertinent parties in the Clinton Administration.
http://dir.salon.com/story/politics/feature/200...
http://mediamatters.org/items/200503120002
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Klarissa1 year, 6 months ago
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Obama said the United States must first address Iran's attempt to gain nuclear capabilities by going before the United Nations Security Council and lobbying the international community to apply more pressure on Iran to cease nuclear activities. That pressure should come in the form of economic sanctions, he said.
But if those measures fall short, the United States should not rule out military strikes to destroy nuclear production sites in Iran, Obama said.
"The big question is going to be, if Iran is resistant to these pressures, including economic sanctions, which I hope will be imposed if they do not cooperate, at what point are we going to, if any, are we going to take military action?" Obama asked.
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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Actually the quickest route to peace in the mideast might be for the Iranians to announce that they already have 20 nuclear missiles pointed at Tel Aviv, Acre, Haifa, Jaffa,... Then we might see an end to israeli nuclear blackmail of the mideast, an end to zionist crimes against humanity, an end to zionist treason in america and the beginning of serious peace negotiations.
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