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Posted By TimALoftis 1 year, 7 months ago in News

Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan writes in a surprisingly scathing memoir to be published next week that President Bush "veered terribly off course," was not "open and forthright on Iraq," and took a "permanent campaign approach" to governing at the expense of candor and competence.

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    TimALoftis1 year, 7 months ago

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    FTA:

    Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan writes in a surprisingly scathing memoir to be published next week that President Bush "veered terribly off course," was not "open and forthright on Iraq," and took a "permanent campaign approach" to governing at the expense of candor and competence.

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      TimALoftis1 year, 7 months ago

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      * McClellan charges that Bush relied on "propaganda" to sell the war.

      * He says the White House press corps was too easy on the administration during the run-up to the war.

      * He admits that some of his own assertions from the briefing room podium turned out to be "badly misguided."

      * The longtime Bush loyalist also suggests that two top aides held a secret West Wing meeting to get their story straight about the CIA leak case at a time when federal prosecutors were after them and McClellan was continuing to defend them despite mounting evidence they had not given him all the facts.

      * McClellan asserts that the aides Karl Rove, the president's senior adviser, and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the vice president's chief of staff "had at best misled" him about their role in the disclosure of former CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity.

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        bubba21 year, 7 months ago

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        McClellan's statements were "Badly misguided"?

        I'll give credit to McClellan for exposing some of the lies of the Bush administration - but he lied.

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          Goppy1 year, 7 months ago

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          Oh jeesh!

          Yet ANOTHER former White House employee spillin the beans bout the UNPRECEDENTED MORAL VACANCY of this administration!!

          Well, I for one -- well, not for one really -- I along with ALL the Righties on Popieller who STILL express UNDYIN support for this administration will CONTINUE to express support for GW.

          Why?

          I dont know really. I guess because, if we Christian Conservatives admit that the man we put so much faith in is the worst presdient in history ... on SO MANY levels, whose gointa believe us when we back a candidate in the future?

          I mean ... when I see LIBBIES criticise GW, we Christian Conservatives launch into angry tirades that LIBBIES ARE BUSH BASHERS! And we say that all libbies can do is BASH, BASH, BASH.

          But Scott McClellan aint no Bush Basher. David Kuo werent no Bush Basher ... The dozens of other former employees werent Bush Bashers.

          Maybe you Libbies got this one right. Goerge W. Bush is a misguided idiot and bad for our nation.

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            Goppy1 year, 7 months ago

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            Id liek to add in defense of Christian Conservatives throughout the nation --- who voted for GW because he said he was a Born Again Christian, and a Compassionate Conservative.

            You know, we are just poeple, liek you. We can get fooled. And while there are STILL some folks who support GW --- maybe because their world is supported by the notion that Conservatives are a Rock of Reason --- I think we realize, in our heart of hearts --- that this administration aint even REPUBLICAN in nature.

            They aint even CONSERVATIVE in nature!

            Goerge RAN as a Republican. But we come to find out, he AINT a Republican.

            Goerge RAN as a Conservative. But we come to find out, he AINT a Conservative.

            Goerge RAN as a Christian. But I aint never seen a Christian LIE as much as GW, be responsible for so much DEATH as GW, and be so CALLOUS to the health and wealth of our nation as GW.

            NOPE! GW is a Horse of a differnt color.

            We just learnt that lesson too late.

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            Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago

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            I red this article earlier today and was dumbfounded, not just at bush but this guy also. Knowing what you know as an American you should feel the need to save this nation from the likes of these people. Where is your so-call love for our country, where does your loyalty stands? Does it stand with a man or this nation, and the presidency which is bigger than any man?

            He is just trying to sell books and has to do better than the guy before him, I hope there is many more books seller this way we will get to the bottom of this mess! This story is appalling and so is Mr. McClellan for doing nothing while our country sank into this mess!!!

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              Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago

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              He says the White House press corps was too easy on the administration during the run-up to the war.

              * He admits that some of his own assertions from the briefing room podium turned out to be "badly misguided."

              "badly misguided." what does this mean? you mean you help them lie to the American people!

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                mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                "I red this article earlier today and was dumbfounded, not just at bush but this guy also. Knowing what you know as an American you should feel the need to save this nation from the likes of these people."

                --I get the impression that this book is not just payback to Bush and Co but a way for him to atone for his actions. I just can't believe it's a coincidence that his book (like David Kuo's in '06) comes out in an election year. And the White House is going apesh*t.

                "Scott, we now know, is disgruntled about his experience at the White House," Perino said. "For those of us who fully supported him, before, during and after he was press secretary, we are puzzled. It is sad. This is not the Scott we knew."

                Spin, Dana! Spin! LMAO

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                  Beau78901 year, 7 months ago

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                  Well, it's hard to take anything Dana Perino says seriously, after this confession (from a Washington Post article):

                  "During a White House briefing, a reporter referred to the Cuban Missile Crisis -- and she didn't know what it was.

                  " 'I was panicked a bit because I really don't know about...the Cuban Missile Crisis,' said Perino, who at 35 was born about a decade after the 1962 U.S.-Soviet nuclear showdown. 'It had to do with Cuba and missiles, I'm pretty sure.'

                  "So she consulted her best source. 'I came home and I asked my husband,' she recalled. 'I said, "Wasn't that like the Bay of Pigs thing?" And he said, "Oh, Dana." ' "

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                    mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                    Perino is pretty but she's unbelievably vapid and nasty. It seems as if the White House was seriously scraping the barrel after Ari Fleischer left. And after the clownish Tony "I don't know" Snow, I was sure Bush's handlers had learned their lesson but they turned around and hired preening, finger-counting Barbie. Unless the volume is turned down on my TV, I find her completely embarrassing to watch.

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                      dissent1 year, 7 months ago

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                      fleischer was a bare-faced lying a$$hole to start off with. after him it all went downhill

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                        mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                        No argument from me other than to say he was a more competent liar and reasonably intelligent, at least.

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                    kedirian1 year, 7 months ago

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                    When White House Staffers, especially in this administration, "support" their higher-ups, do they do that verbally, in writing, or nasally - know what I mean?......

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                      Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago

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                      "Scott, we now know, is disgruntled about his experience at the White House," Perino said. "For those of us who fully supported him, before, during and after he was press secretary, we are puzzled. It is sad. This is not the Scott we knew."

                      Spin, Dana! Spin! LMAO

                      He knows the one who acted like he hate his country, not the one that has found a renewed love for it!

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                    Leemck021 year, 7 months ago

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                    Goppy, I don't think the majority has an ought with Christian Conservatism, in it's purest form. It was how this administration hid behind it or used it as a wedge to keep a distraction going while doing just the opposite of the very things Christianity stands for. It is so bad, the ideology is referred to as "Cons". I still the 'W' Still the President stickers. The Liberal Thinking isn't the issue, we are all Americans and are going to be here. The policy and procedure that we all have to abide with as well as who is handling our national security and treasury is of concern. All this Hagge and Wright stuff, meantime trying to get a rise out of the Catholics, is so far off base from what the Executive Branch is supposed to be doing. A faith based initiative, LOL, when we need solid management, economics and accounting. When you don't have the facts, baffle em with BS. Faith in W; no Vote for change.

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                    jordan111 year, 7 months ago

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                    Yes he did lie. I get a kick out of these people 'exposing' bush, when they themselves were in the thick of it.

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                      hamy1 year, 7 months ago

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                      EXACTLY! McClellan is now trying to say that he thought he was telling the truth when I remember his fat face lying through his teeth to try and cover up the incompetence of this administration. He is just as guilty as Bush and Cheney themselves.

                      Don't give him any more money. He has suckled the teat of America's tax payers long enough. Don't buy this book. Steal it.

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                        scott42611 year, 7 months ago

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                        I almost pity Scott McClellan. It's easy for all of to criticize him for his complicity in the crimes of the Bush Administration. Those of us who come into contact with Republicans daily in our working lives and family life know many who wanted so desperately to believe in the Bush Administration. These are not bad people and everyone I am speaking of is quite educated, but they WANTED to believe the lies they were being told. And like McClellan, they have come around to understanding the malfeasance that many of us have been aware of all along. My Republican mother voted for Bush and she has made many of the rationalizations McClellan apparently made while he was press secretary. And to this day my mom still doesn't want to speak ill of the President. Having said that, to say she is disillusioned is an understatement.

                        I'm gonna take this for what it is. McClellan may have "found religion" like Former Defense Secretary McNamara did in the '90s.

                        Then again, maybe not...

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                          Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago

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                          Granted Scott your point well taken...why not come out while you were quiting if you were concerned about the country...Ill tell you why because he wanted to sell books! This guy is as much to be blamed as bush he was there for 4 years he should have known! Well he did say he knew when he saw rove and scooter meeting in the west wing!

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                          jordan111 year, 7 months ago

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                          I know what you mean scott, and I have friends and family who did come to the realization that the bush administration has been a disaster. We don't talk about it much because frankly I think they're embarrassed and a little angry that they missed the writing on the wall. However, for a person to be in the position to know what was going on, and quietly make an exit without warning his country, is quite another matter, IMO.

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                            Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago

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                            scott4261 said it well. McClellan shouldn't be dismissed because of his participation in the Bush Junta, It seems he wanted to do his job and be a "team" player back then, but has had a conscience since. This is better than the lobotomized shills still on intravenous Koolaid. He may be the best possible look inside the hidden machinations of the Junta.

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                            Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago

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                            You know what you had about 50% of this nation saying these things were lies and you did nothing they would have backed you. You did nothing and then stayed for 4 years and waited for another 2 so you can sell a book. Mr. McClellan to hell with you. You let your country and the American people down!

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                      mcgrievysr1 year, 7 months ago

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                      TimALoftis----"Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan writes in a surprisingly scathing memoir to be published next week that President Bush "veered terribly off course," was not "open and forthright on Iraq," and took a "permanent campaign approach" to governing at the expense of candor and competence"

                      Exactly what we've been saying here, but now it comes from inside the White House.

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                        MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago

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                        Same group of shameless fools voted to sink this story.

                        Their stinky little pack is getting smaller..

                        From what do they stink you may ask??

                        The odor of those who continue to be responsible for a completely unaccountable administration that is damaging this once proud country and relies on trained animals like them to keep defending the defenseless...

                        These people know no shame and have no sense of what being a true American requires..They are stubborn, brainless fools.

                        They have absolutely no standards for what a president should be..What can they tell their children?

                        Here they have in bold crayon the absolute outing of their idiot leader and they still defend him blindly, YES, like NAZI's did Hitler. Their loyalty to their pig leader and his pig friend Cheney is inexplicable. They have nothing to add to this nation. What a waste.

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                        smithichie1 year, 7 months ago

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                        Sounds like it will be an interesting book. The quote that caught my eye was this one.

                        "The collapse of the administration's rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise. â;¦ In this case, the 'liberal media' didn't live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served."

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                          bubba21 year, 7 months ago

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                          Gee ... again, thanks to Scott for his book and his revelations.

                          But he participated in the lies - he didn't HAVE to do so. But I guess he was paid well for it?

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                            Beau78901 year, 7 months ago

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                            Yeah. There was a time when people who disagreed so strongly with their own administration would speak up publicly and quit. Now they simply wait until it's too late, then write a book.

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                              Charlson1 year, 7 months ago

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                              You need never lie for a good cause but need to have a bag full of lies to defend rotten ones.

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                                mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                Knowing this administration, I think he's kinda brave for releasing the book while Bush is still in office and in an election year.

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                                Will13131 year, 7 months ago

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                                Gee ... again, thanks to Scott for his book and his revelations.

                                But he participated in the lies - he didn't HAVE to do so. But I guess he was paid well for it?

                                ----

                                and he'll make a LOT MORE MONEY ON THIS BOOK...

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                                hamy1 year, 7 months ago

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                                Um...how 'bout "if you hadn't lied to them, they wouldn't have to expose the lies?" Huh? What about that?

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                                  mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                  hehehehehehe... Amen.

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                                  mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                  I am surprised I haven't seen any quotes about Cheney yet. I wonder if there will be references to "Darth Rove".

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                                  Niimki1 year, 7 months ago

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                                  Ouch..this has to hurt the Bush loyalists a little. I like the use of the word "propaganda". Yup that would be what the selling of this war was alright. And that B.S. just keeps piling up.

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                                    DoseASpinoza1 year, 7 months ago

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                                    "Ouch..this has to hurt the Bush loyalists a little."

                                    I doubt it. They are the true believers, and none of them, Bush included, ever cared about the fallout on the rest of us.

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                                    Shadowolf1 year, 7 months ago

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                                    ...former Presidental SpokesLiar Scott McClellan finally comes clean...(While still attempting to cover his own butt...LOL!!!)Pity Tony Snow(job) never will...

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                                      Charlson1 year, 7 months ago

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                                      The job of White House Press Secretary has become so soiled lately that I've got to wonder what moral person could accept a job that includes lying, misinformation, deceit and subterfuge as part of the job description.

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                                      rightfromwrong1 year, 7 months ago

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                                      GEORGE JR. HAS AN I.Q OF 91...ONE LESS THAN HIS FATHER

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                                        DoseASpinoza1 year, 7 months ago

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                                        Dubya has the IQ of a Raisinet.

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                                          kedirian1 year, 7 months ago

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                                          Whether high or off-scale, what's more important - and Dubya has 9-more months to prove it! - DOES HE HAVE A HEART?

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                                        TheRealizer1 year, 7 months ago

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                                        Some of us who were against the fiasco from the start were publicly criticized, and called enemies of democracy etc..

                                        It is too late at this point to undo the damage but impeachment is still an option.....

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                                          Grrr1 year, 7 months ago

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                                          I don't want impeachment. I want him charged with treason. All of them.

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                                            Will13131 year, 7 months ago

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                                            yep...

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                                          Spadecaller1 year, 7 months ago

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                                          I am sure McClellan knew he was dishonest with the media and the public during his work as press secretary for Bush.

                                          While his story only supports what most rational people have known for years about this ill-conceived war, it at least confirms the truth. What is most important about McClellan's memoirs is that it can enlighten those Americans who have enough of an open mind to withdraw their support of McCain's candidacy, which supports a war that was never necessary.

                                          The most shameful reality of this news item is what it shows about people like McClellan. They are willing to enable the exploitation of the lives and well-being of our soldiers and Iraqis if it serves their careers.

                                          It now serves McClellan's ambitions to get paid for the truth -- the truth that he withheld when it was most important. He is not a hero. He is only a spineless messenger whose hands are also stained by the blood spilled in Iraq. Happy Memorial Day, Scott McClellan!

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                                            Charlson1 year, 7 months ago

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                                            My sentiments, exactly, Spadecaller.

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                                            ETproductions1 year, 7 months ago

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                                            It's not like he's telling us anything we didn't already know, but considering the right-wing source, it is pretty amazing stuff. Maybe even enough to convene a grand jury and begin criminal investigations when the current Mukasey Injustice Department is replaced by a functioning Justice Department.

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                                              Beau78901 year, 7 months ago

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                                              I wonder if McClellan would be willing to testify under oath against Bush administration members. We already know many others have refused to respond to subpoenas.

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                                                mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                If Bush and co foolishly try to give him the Brownie treatment, I bet he'll sing real fast. McClellan sounds p'ssd and as if he feels he was genuinely duped and used. It'll be interesting to see how far the White House goes with counter attacks. That farm animal Rove has already been on FOX barking defensively.

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                                                  Beau78901 year, 7 months ago

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                                                  Well, then Congress should bring him in front of committee. If those others who won't testify continue to refuse, they can be indicted on the basis of evidence provided by McClellan. It'd be pretty fun to see them all JUMP at the chance to testify in teheir own defense.

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                                              cowboygrandpa1 year, 7 months ago

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                                              Just arrest the SOB's when they are out of the White House and try them for treason. If Guilty hang them publicly and make all of America watch what happens to traitors.

                                              Big deal so he is coming a little clean to make some money and ease his conscience.

                                              Good story Tim

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                                                CaptainLucid1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                Dream on Cowboy. I am certain that on his last day in office W will issue a list of pardons thicker than a Sunday copy of the NY times. The worst is I think he will complete the deed by pardoning Cheney and then resigning. That would make Cheney the president and his only act will be to pardon W for any possible offenses. I am hoping for them to be hauled before the Hauge for war crimes.

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                                                  Grrr1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                  This is exactly why no charges will be brought while they're still in office.

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                                                berkeley1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                for the record, when did he resign? right after the wilson/novak/valarie plame story hit the street.

                                                he heard that the penalty for exposing a cia operation was death, and he wasn't sure the cover-up would hold.

                                                despite the book, the future will know him as a paid liar.

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                                                  Charlson1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                  And yes, where was the (liberal) White House Press Corps on asking the tough questions about the war's rational? Or demanding accountability for where American dollars were going, for what use, who was benefiting and with what success? Does anyone think any of our White House Press Corps members have done their jobs? Or the mainstream media for that matter? Corporations controls the media and the corporations benefit from the policies of the Bush administration. Liberal media my a$$.

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                                                    DoseASpinoza1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                    And people still suggest it was a coincidence that all this was going on as the FCC was deciding media ownership rules that let all the corporate media conglomerates own more market share.

                                                    More than a few of these reporters were under corporate threat not to upset the applecart.

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                                                      cleare1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                      you are SO right on!!!

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                                                      mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                      "Does anyone think any of our White House Press Corps members have done their jobs? Or the mainstream media for that matter? "

                                                      --Have you ever seen Helen Thomas in action? She's in her twilight years but she doesn't pull in any punches. Frankly, I don't see the press secretary's job as being all that difficult but the Bush administration has made a total joke out of the position. Tony Snow? Dana Perino? How many different ways can you say "i'll get back to you" or "We haven't seen the report yet, so I can't comment on it" or "he doesn't comment on it" etc?

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                                                        sinophil491 year, 7 months ago

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                                                        meso - "Have you ever seen Helen Thomas in action?"

                                                        My question is - Have you seen Helen Thomas lately?

                                                        She has been relegated to the back of the room. She is ignored. She is not called on.

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                                                          mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                          Good point. I've not been watching routinely during the past month or so but I always seem to come in just as that loudmouthed creepy right wing dude (who always has some lengthy disgustingly homophobic or anti-immigrant question), Not sure if he works for the Washington Times or what but he seems like a total waste of oxygen. Don't know how some of them even get such plum jobs.

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                                                      dwemm1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                      I've also got more than a suspicion that this is a further attempt by the Republican Party to distance itself from the Bush administration. They learned in 2006 that name recognition with Bush is poison in the polling place, the same as identification with Nixon was in the 70's after

                                                      Watergate and Vietnam.

                                                      McLellan can then go off and work for McCain or any of the congressional candidates. As for his inability to tell the whole truth at the right time, that might just be a job description for "WH Press Secretary" these days.

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                                                        DoseASpinoza1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                        Even Mr. McGoo is keeping Shrub behind closed doors (gates) during his fundraisers this week in AZ. They moved the big one from the Phoenix Convention Center to a private residence because 1) they could not sell enough tickets and 2) they were afraid there would be more antiwar protesters than Bush/McGoo (Bush third term) supporters.

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                                                        texangelwings1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                        Telling the people something we already know! Where was his courage back then? Too bad he wasn't a whisleblower back when it would have counted!

                                                        Thanks ybdogsct and Mark for the heads up on this article.

                                                        Thanks Tim!

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                                                          quackpot1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                          Although the book seems to just state the obvious, it does so with authority.

                                                          I hope that McClellan has the decency to donate the profits from the book to charity. Doing so might make some amends for his role in propagating Mr. Bush's lies and mis-information.

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                                                            Will13131 year, 7 months ago

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                                                            I hope that McClellan has the decency to donate the profits from the book to charity.

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                                                            if you believe that he will do so.. quackpot would REALLY be a fitting name.. :-p

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                                                            Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                            Under the heading of Only in America:

                                                            You write a book that (rightly) demeans its central subject--and you, by implication!

                                                            You pedal it everywhere you can...

                                                            You have your fifteen minutes of fame...

                                                            And you make $$$ from your "revelations" (stale news, actually--or at least, yet more corroboration)...

                                                            And you establish a lecture-circuit market for yourself...

                                                            Pat yourself on the back! You're a miscreant celebrity!

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                                                              Beau78901 year, 7 months ago

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                                                              It's almost right up there with the O.J.'s "If I Did It."

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                                                              walden31 year, 7 months ago

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                                                              Liar, liar pants on fire.

                                                              I'd like to ask McClellan how he feels about being complicit in the needless deaths of thousands of Americans, tens of thousands of Iraqis and bankrupting the country. Does he think his little confessions absolves him of responsibility.

                                                              "...the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration..." Well, DUH any one of us looking in from the outside in 02-03 could see that.

                                                              Ari Fleischer also wrote a book. There seems to be a pattern here. The monsters help Bush to achieve his goal and lie to the American people, then they cop to it, then they go on the talk show circuit, then they make lots of money. Talk about traitors to America.

                                                              First we had Ari Fleischer. A despicable lying creature. Then McClennan another lying, fabricating mouthpiece. Then the chief propagandist from Fox Tony Snow and finally the way over her head Dana Perino.

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                                                                BillieMaxer1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                * McClellan charges that Bush relied on "propaganda" to sell the war.

                                                                Noooooo really, glad we found that out and here I thought we went to war for all the right reasons.

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                                                                Will13131 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                I'd like to hear what he would say UNDER OATH about Plame.. and throw in Fleischer also remember the latter was given immunity for his grand jury testimony...

                                                                that treason thing might just be on the burner again...

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                                                                  Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                  (I note the absence of comments from AG, Jose M., Ani, Klarissa, Libs "R" Us, etc., etc., etc. on this thread.

                                                                  A VERY pregnant silence, IMHO....)

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                                                                    scott42611 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                    They are gradually entering the thread. Never fear!

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                                                                      fsev411 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                      They're way too busy on other threads bashing Obama, Clinton and the Democrats to come here and try to somehow defend their great leader.

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                                                                        bluetexasvalley1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                        If only to sink the story. lol

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                                                                      mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                      Propeller's low-budget version of the Caped Crusaders except without the capes and they're mission is to defend evil until Dumb'ya's face is on Mt Rushmore.

                                                                      ;-x

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                                                                      eugenegerard1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                      The word propaganda is synonymous with lieing. The lies Bush said were felonious and treasonous. Impeach and incarcerate the whole bunch of them.

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                                                                        jagcmos1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                        McClellan is a true Christian.

                                                                        Redemption infused with profit.

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                                                                          CRYMTYPHON1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                          Not a bit.

                                                                          The love of money is the root of all evil.

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                                                                            Ciera-Marie1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                            crymtyphon had to read iagomos's comment a couple times. He's right because look at Chuck Colson. Wasn't he one of the ones involved with Watergate? Multi-millionaire, found Jesus in prison, has a multidollar prison ministry, republican. He's the first example off the top of my head.

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                                                                          Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                          AG, do you ever abandon channeling others as a method of expressing opinion?

                                                                          You're obviously clever/knowledable enough to expound directly....

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                                                                          NoWayMan1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                          ouch.

                                                                          too bad mclellan didn't have the balls to step up when it was actually happening right in front of him. now he's just "stepping up" for profit.

                                                                          day late. dollar short.

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                                                                            DoseASpinoza1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                            And at this very moment, that criminal Shrub is comparing the USAF graduating class to the WWII veterans, telling them their job is to secure the peace.

                                                                            Remember peace? That thing we had before Shrub got into office?

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                                                                              sinophil491 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                              I, too, had all these thoughts about McClellan trying to soft-sell his own complicity or trying to raise the sales of his book.

                                                                              But, God Bless Him, this is now one voice from the "inside" that the Republicans can not brush off or claim bias against or that he is just a liberal Bush Basher.

                                                                              If McClellan makes a few bucks and funds his grandkid's college education, so be it. We're all out to make a buck.

                                                                              At least he is finally doing it in a good cause.

                                                                              Am I being too soft on McClellan? Perhaps. But he is just a "small fry" anyway.

                                                                              I just really want Bush, Cheney, Rove, et al., exposed for the immoral, warmongering, bloodthirsty idealogues that they are.

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                                                                                Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                Dana Perino, current White House press secretary, quoted in re McClellan's book, in today's NY Times:

                                                                                "Scott, we now know, is disgruntled about his experience at the White House," she said. "For those of us who fully supported him, before, during and after he was press secretary, we are puzzled. It is sad. This is not the Scott we knew."

                                                                                Terrible when you can no longer count on people, isn't it?

                                                                                And Mr. Rove weighs in:

                                                                                "First of all, this doesn't sound like Scott. It really doesn't," he said. "Not the Scott McClellan I've known for a long time. Second of all, it sounds like somebody else. It sounds like a left-wing blogger....."

                                                                                WHAT!?! A LEFT-WING BLOGGER!?! WHERE?!

                                                                                **Looks under chair, finds only wadded cat hair, and feels safer. Momentarily....**

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                                                                                  bluetexasvalley1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                  lol

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                                                                                    Beau78901 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                    Anyone who doesn't buy into Rove's lies sounds like a left-wing blogger to him.

                                                                                    It's similar to the thoughts of the reactionaries out here when they go on about the radical left and how extreme the Democratic party is.

                                                                                    I've asked a few of them if they could name anyone they'd consider further right on the polical spectrum than themselves...none has ever answered that.

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                                                                                      jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                      I've asked that same question. All I've gotten is snide jokes or silence in return.

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                                                                                    bubba21 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                    Boy, did THIS comment end up in the WRONG place. It is a response to the question posed by Charlston, "And yes, where was the (liberal) White House Press Corps on asking the tough questions about the war's rational?" ...

                                                                                    Helen Thomas - she did ask the tough questions. She was ignored, criticized, and pushed to the back of the press room even though she was the senior member of the press corp.

                                                                                    Most of the press didn't ask tough questions because they were either told not to by their right-wing bosses or they were afraid of losing status or their jobs.

                                                                                    http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/In_new_book_W...

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                                                                                      bubba21 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                      Boy, did THIS comment end up in the WRONG place. It is a response to the question posed by Charlston, "And yes, where was the (liberal) White House Press Corps on asking the tough questions about the war's rational?" ...

                                                                                      I added this after my edit of my above comment never seemed to get updated .... sheesh ...

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                                                                                        bubba21 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                        Ok ... I have just about HAD it with the "comment scramble" or "disappearing comment" act by Propeller ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                                          sinophil491 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                          bubba - OK, I just heard you cussing thru my computer. Sheeesshh, what language!!!

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                                                                                            bubba21 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                            ya got me ... LOL!!!!

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                                                                                              bluetexasvalley1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                              But soon, Bubba2, soon... ;-)

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                                                                                        Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                        Again, from today's Times, in re...well, y'all know:

                                                                                        ..."McClellan] does have a number of kind words for Mr. Bush, particularly from the April day in 2006 when Mr. Bush met with Mr. McClellan after he learned he was being pushed out. 'His charm was on full display, but it was hard to know if it was sincere or just an attempt to make me feel better,' Mr. McClellan writes. 'But as he continued, something I had never seen before happened: tears were streaming down both his cheeks.'"

                                                                                        AG, I take it all back! Can I come home now?

                                                                                        Please?

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                                                                                        christopher11 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                        I bet GWB is not pleased with his soldier.

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                                                                                          Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                          You're right, Cat!

                                                                                          This ISN'T the REAL McClellan, but rather a holographic representation abetted by a LEFT-WING BLOGGER ghostwriter, who.....

                                                                                          Or, it IS McClellan, but after abduction by LEFT-WING BLOGGER aliens who've put him in the hands of a LEFT-WING BLOGGER press.....

                                                                                          Or, it's McClellan after being drugged and brainwashed by LEFT-WING BLOGGER jihadists who....

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                                                                                            djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                            This is BS and about McCellan making money.

                                                                                            McCellan was there for FOUR YEARS, through all of these alledgedly evil things that were going on he did or said NOTHING. Why does it all come out? Because he was fired. I thought he was better than this BS.

                                                                                            Why is that if this administration is so evil no one has left it in protest other than Colin Powell and Admiral Fallon? Why has everyone that has criticized "from the inside" went to the book publishers instead of the press?

                                                                                            Follow the money...

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                                                                                              CRYMTYPHON1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                              Ok: let's follow the money...

                                                                                              Keeping my rich and powerful friends happy seems like a better path to wealth, than to write this month's tell-all book. The left is not going to adopt me, and no-one on the right will ever hire me again.

                                                                                              Nope, djrevelky; the money trail would have gone the other way.

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                                                                                                djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                Really? The White House Press Secretary is paid less than $100,000 per year. How much did McCellan get for this book?

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                                                                                                  Tangent0011 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                  Hopefully enough for his retirement, 'cause he sure as heck ain't gonna be working for either the right OR the left.

                                                                                                  Perhaps a greeter at Wal-mart?

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                                                                                                    CRYMTYPHON1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                    You know better.

                                                                                                    Secretary makes < $100,000;

                                                                                                    And the VIP makes < $250,000;

                                                                                                    And the prez himself makes < $500,000;

                                                                                                    For all such officials the real money is in speaking fees and private-industry lobbying. (Yuck).

                                                                                                    McClellan has currently been charging $15,001-$25,000 for speaking.

                                                                                                    This isn't 'Blinded by The Right' where the writer repents; it's just a dirty confession. The left doesn't forgive; the right won't either; as McClellan must know.

                                                                                                    If he is acting for money, he is exchanging what a one-time sell out will bring him, for the long term investment of friend-of-the-rich.

                                                                                                    Hey, - you distracted me into speculating about McClellan's motives instead of the point of things, the message about White House operations!

                                                                                                    Not bad!

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                                                                                                  Tangent0011 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                  "Why is that if this administration is so evil no one has left it in protest other than Colin Powell and Admiral Fallon?"

                                                                                                  First of all, Powell and Fallon are some pretty big 'other thans'.

                                                                                                  We've also got:

                                                                                                  John Brown

                                                                                                  Judge James Robertson

                                                                                                  John Brady Kiesling

                                                                                                  Ann Wright

                                                                                                  Rand Beers

                                                                                                  Richard Clarke

                                                                                                  Charles Pritchard

                                                                                                  etc...

                                                                                                  Actually the list of those who took early retirement, requested reassignment, resigned in public protest, or resigned in tacit protest is quite long:

                                                                                                  http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/28817/nick_turs...

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                                                                                                    djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                    Clarke didn't leave. He switched offices.

                                                                                                    O'neill also switched offices.

                                                                                                    Lindsey was fired, he didn't resign in protest.

                                                                                                    Ann Wright did resign out of protest, as did John Brady Kiesling...but they were hardly members of this administration. They were career government employees, not appointed by Bush and they did not know of the inner workers.

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                                                                                                      Tangent0011 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                      I was just trying to give a counterpoint to your assertion that people hadn't resigned in protest except for Powell, and Fallon (why those two somehow don't matter is beyond me).

                                                                                                      As I said, not all specifically resigned in public protest, but clearly those who didn't give Bush 43 exactly what he wanted to hear when he wanted to hear it quickly found themselves out of a job. A LOT of high-ranking folks thought Bush 43 was moseying down the wrong road when it came to Iraq.

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                                                                                                    mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                    "Why is that if this administration is so evil no one has left it in protest other than Colin Powell and Admiral Fallon? Why has everyone that has criticized "from the inside" went to the book publishers instead of the press?"

                                                                                                    --Because some people are reputable enough and powerful enough to bounce back on their own and others aren't. Michael Brown and Alberto Gonzales don't have the respect and admiration of Americans that Colin Powell does. Even filth like Tom Delay and Karl Rove know that they'll always be able to find some person or organization (totally lacking in scruples or ethics) willing to hire them. However, Alberto Gonzales can't find a job. And what happened to that disgusting bovine neocon trollop Linda Tripp? She went from a 100k salary to scrubbing p33pshow booth floors. And let's not forget Katherine Harris (believe me, I've tried but this vile, unspeakably ugly and loathsome harlot haunts my nightmares). Talk about your GOP box office poison. ;-(

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                                                                                                      Leemck021 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                      I'll take the truth anyway it comes, conscience, duress, or greed. K-street, sole sourcing government contracts to friends, paying for bridges to be rebuilt in Iraq before they were bombed, don't act naive. At least we know this is one they didn't have touchered for the truth to come out.

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                                                                                                      dunkirk1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                      This reminds me of the stories of German villagers after the war who claimed they had no idea that the concentration camp atrocities were occuring at camps located just outside their towns, despite trains packed with people coming in, empty trains going out, the sounds of gunfire, black smoke filling the air and the smell of the dead permeating the air.

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                                                                                                        Codi69341 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                        Richard Clark did the same thing to promote a book during an election year. Everyone thought it was great. McCellan complained about what Clark had done, but did the same thing. Colin Powell had a very open interview with Larry King and Meet the Press about the run up to war. What was said nothing. The interview on 60 Mintues with Saddam's interrogator about what he intended to do after the sanctions were lifted. Again what was said, nothing.

                                                                                                        There is enough of this sh*t sandwich to go around. But less then a handful can claim more then there fair share. Some of you complain in the Carter story on Israel's nukes that he inherited a mess from Nixon and Ford. Part is true, and he created some of his own. Same here, GW inherited a mess in waiting from Bill. And GW has caused a few of his own, I won't deny. But GW has done everything in his power to protect this nation, you have to give him credit for that. His love is for country, not power like our last President or his wife.

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                                                                                                          bluetexasvalley1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                          Clark's book WAS great, if nothing else, for telling about the meetings immediately following 9/11 -- some very interesting quotes from Cheney, Rummy and Rice.

                                                                                                          Don't know about the TV interviews as I banned TV from my home years ago.

                                                                                                          I vehemently disagree with your last sentence, as I have yet to see any evidence for love of country.

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                                                                                                        redhed671 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                        It's great that McClellan finally pulled his head out... but nothing will come of this. His book will be ignored, pushed aside and forgotten like all the other books that tell the truth about Bush.

                                                                                                        The Bush Mafia owns the media. They won't allow anything bad to be said about their beloved Master.

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                                                                                                          redhed671 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                          Dana Perino.. Ugh! That woman is as dumb as a sack of hammers!

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                                                                                                            redhed671 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                            Well, Scott.. be prepared now. Fox will be calling you a "liberal Nazi traitor" in 3...2...1....

                                                                                                            And, of course, their loyal cult will believe it because, after all, THEY...MUST... OBEY!!!!!

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                                                                                                            BB641 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                            I remember this ying-yang at a DC party. I thought he could have been the poster child for Planned Parenthood. The press must have loved him when he was the press secretary. He's a perfect example why siblings shouldn't marry.

                                                                                                            Well since it's taken him over two years to sell his Bush bashing book, in a Bush hating industry, I'm sure the pictures will be great. Since his firing, he's been practicing his finger painting for a while.

                                                                                                            Okay, I've been a little harsh but I lived in DC. Calling him dumb as a box of rocks is an insult to the box of rocks.

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                                                                                                            hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                            McClellan First Noticed Bush's Habit of Lying during Campaign Flap over Cocaine Use

                                                                                                            ... former Bush flack Scott McClellan says the first time he caught George Bush lying was during the 2000 campaign when Bush was being accused of having used cocaine..

                                                                                                            ... "Bush, similarly, has a way of falling back on the hazy memory to protect himself from potential political embarrassment," McClellan wrote, adding, "In other words, being evasive is not the same as lying in Bush's mind."...

                                                                                                            And McClellan linked the tactic to the decision to invade Iraq...

                                                                                                            http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/05/28/mcclell...

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                                                                                                            ChuckR1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                            It always amazes me how those caught with their hand in the cookie jar justify the stealing, lying and corruption on the accuser. I am a life long Republican but I knew and stated from the onset that this President was a liar and only surrounded himself with ones of his image--liars. I have many friends who are Republican and their justifcation for the War, Economy and all the lies is, "it would be worse if the other party was in". Maybe--there are many liars in that party too but the issue is we are in a stupid war that was unnecessary and it is bankrupting our country.

                                                                                                            Read the book and then "THINK" and maybe you will be able to see the reason he waited until now to tell the truth. To yell "fire" in the theater now is talking with your head in the sand.

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                                                                                                              MeanMotherUSA1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                              Why Didn't A*sshole McClellan Admit To Any Of It In Beginning 3 Years Ago!? Can't Live (Like Rest Poor) On Unemployment Can He....

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                                                                                                                MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                You have no respect for the truth, you'd rather shoot the messenger. Don't you understand, for even one second how difficult it is to prove that what you're told to say is wrong. But don't you understand how it is only human nature to

                                                                                                                hope that the garbage that you have been supporting doesn't stink as bad as everyone was telling you it does?

                                                                                                                He had a job to do, and how dare you analyze how easily he

                                                                                                                could have or should have done whatever YOU think and when YOU think..You don't think, and that's the first problem.

                                                                                                                Shameless blind support. Don't you ever get tired of

                                                                                                                popping all of his zits and calling them beauty marks??

                                                                                                                Will you ever admit this idiocy of everything that is Bush?

                                                                                                                We know you won't, so your comments in this case can be shelved with idiocy of the other shills..

                                                                                                                Go ahead, blame the messenger again, because listening to the message would be too challenging for you.

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                                                                                                                woodguru1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                There is something deeply wrong with anyone voting for someone based on religious beliefs or worse yet voting a person in and then trusting them. Our government process can only be made better by people who know issues, vote in those actually working to make the system better, and here is the most important part, oversee and hold politicians accountable for their votes and actions. Government left to run amuck is never going to work for us. Weapons of mass destruction, war on terror, and no child left behind are not genesis, armageddon, or adam and eve. You believe what you want in your religion as is your right but leave politics to those who know what actually happened with Enron, the California power company debacle, and subsidy issues. Government isn't religion and Bush isn't god, he needs to be held accountable for illegal actions.

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                                                                                                                kedirian1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                With all those rats leaving a sinking ship, the most interesting question is, When will Dubya take all guns away from "Cool Hand" Cheney? And...will he be in time?

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                                                                                                                  Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                  I've asked for this in other threads, but haven't gotten a reply.

                                                                                                                  So again, Bush diehards (otherwise known as luvers), please provide a list of Bush's virtues. As president, as man.

                                                                                                                  Here--I'll even get you started:

                                                                                                                  1.__________________________

                                                                                                                  2.__________________________

                                                                                                                  3.__________________________

                                                                                                                  I'll stop there, as I don't want this project to seem overwhelming....

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                                                                                                                  Leemck021 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                  Wasn't Scott McClellan diagnosed with Cancer? Perhaps this a result of looking at life seriously, trying to get straight for the next step. We could all take note.

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                                                                                                                    mesodude1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                    You're half right. He doesn't have cancer but, according to his mom, his White House experience was a major reality check.

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                                                                                                                      Leemck021 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                      Thanks for correcting me. I suppose I should not have trying to explain it, just be thankful for a shot at hearing the truth. Looking the gifted horse in the mouth.

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                                                                                                                      kfolive1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                      We believe Scott now. He did have to do it then. Didn't you every have a job with a boss that was wrong but you backed him cuz he was the boss. I have but I couldn't do it for very long. Neither did Scott.

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                                                                                                                        Leemck021 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                        Any Marines out there, correct me if I'm wrong . . . 'When you work for a man, work for him faithfully, speak well of him; but when he leaves or you leave, Damn him for all he's worth'. I wonder how many books like Scott's and all those before him will air out the Bush administration. Of course, Dad kept the Contra affair quite all these years.

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                                                                                                                          vor1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                          Sort of like Buzz Peterson's BS book about Clinton, eh. "Dereliction of Duty". It would have been considered equally scathing except it is so full of half-truths it belongs in the fiction aisle. And I am no great fan of Bill or Hillary. Hypocrites!

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                                                                                                                          mmrhe1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                          It's gotta really burn the Washington press corps to have a figure like this call them out for not doing their jobs!

                                                                                                                          No one had the guts to tell Emperor Bush he had no clothes!

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                                                                                                                            Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                            Thanks for the list, AG.

                                                                                                                            I'm reminded of the phrase "damning with faint"--or in this case highly dubious, "best-face," and/or could-the-bar-be lower?--"praise."

                                                                                                                            As in, "signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history...."

                                                                                                                            Rather like bragging that you've rid the streets of the homeless but failing to mention you did so by locking them up....

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                                                                                                                            Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                                                            AG, I'll sidestep the gauntlet you've thrown down, not only because others have given you chapter-and-verse, and thus rather knocked away your list, but because it takes no courage--your word--to be even even-handed at least in this forum.

                                                                                                                            We sometimes forget in our partisan disputes that we all (well, MOST of us) want the same thing: to live a decent, productive life, to be close to others about whom we care, and to have a little fun.

                                                                                                                            No?

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