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Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 6 months ago in NewsThe co-director of Barack Obama's presidential campaign in Puerto Rico is a Washington-based federal lobbyist for the government of Puerto Rico.
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"The co-director of Barack Obama's presidential campaign in Puerto Rico is a Washington-based federal lobbyist for the government of Puerto Rico.
Ethics watchdogs said that Francisco J. PavÃa's high-profile role appears to contradict the Obama campaign's ethics guidelines, which forbid federal lobbyists from working on staff. But Obama spokesman Bill Burton said PavÃa is an "active volunteer" -- not a paid staffer -- and can hold the job without running afoul of the campaign's rules."
So it's okay, as long as they aren't "paid"...uh huh.
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DoseASpinoza1 year, 6 months ago
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Well considering 13 of McCain's present paid staffers are lobbyists even after five have left the campaign, I'd say yes, I could forgive Obama for one volunteer.
Katherine Harris was the chair of Bush's campaign in Florida and then was in charge of which ballots got counted. That didn't seem to bother the neocons.
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ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
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From The Article:
"PavÃa has been a registered lobbyist for various arms of the Puerto Rican government since 2001."
Indeed, this "gotcha" story appears to be more concerned with the letter of the law rather than with the spirit of the law. It's one thing to hire a lobbyist who represents the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, which seems relatively benign; it's quite another to hire lobbyists that represent multinational corporations seeking multi-billion dollar contracts from the U.S. government, which presents a much more dangerous conflict of interest.
While there has been public backlash against lobbyists representing corporate interests (i.e., Haliburton, Enron, Blackwater) and interests of foreign countries (i.e. Saudi Arabia), is there anyone genuinely worried about the undue influence of Puerto Rico on U.S. policy?
Oh no! The Puerto Ricans are coming to get us! Honestly, I didn't even know Puerto Rico had lobbyists or needed them at all.
LOL.
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ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
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There is a profound difference between a lobbyist representing the commonwealth of Puerto Rico and the following lobbyists on McCain's staff.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
"Longtime uber-lobbyist Charles R. Black Jr. is John McCain's man in Washington. Black was Jonas Savimbi's man in the capital city. His lobbying firm received millions from the brutal Angolan guerrilla leader and took advantage of Black's contacts in Congress and the White House. Black and his partners were at times registered foreign agents for a remarkable collection of U.S.-backed foreign leaders whose human rights records were sometimes harshly criticized.
McCain 'portrays himself as Mr. Clean, and then he has all these lobbyists around him who are connected to a lot of not-so-clean people.'"
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ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/201671...
"John McCain's campaign asked prominent Republican consultant, Craig Shirley, to leave. Shirley doubled as a consultant to McCain and the group Stop Her Now, a 527 group barred from coordinating its activities with presidential campaigns.
Shirley's firm, Shirley & Bannister Associates, was paid more than $22,000 by McCain for work to win conservative support. Stop Her Now has paid the firm more than $155,000 since 2007 for public relations work.
Shirley's background is in some of the hardest hitting Republican attacks on Democratic politicians. He was a member of the team that tarred Michael Dukakis with the "Willie Horton" ads in 1988, and he helped organize the press conference with Paula Jones. In 2004, his company did public relations work for a movie attacking John Kerry called, 'Stolen Honor.'"
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ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2...
"Sen. John McCain secured millions in federal funds for a land acquisition program that provided a windfall for an Arizona developer whose executives were major campaign donors.
McCain, who has made fighting special-interest projects a centerpiece of his presidential campaign, inserted $14.3 million in a 2003 defense bill to buy land around Luke AFB in a provision sought by SunCor Development.
The Air Force later paid SunCor $3 million for 122 acres near the base. It was the highest single land transaction of the private lots purchased by the government ââ;¬" three times the county's assessed value and twice the military's estimated value.
McCain's campaigns have received $224,000 since 1998 from donors connected to Pinnacle West, including $104,100 for his current presidential run."
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ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
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http://news.propeller.com/story/2008/04/26/mcca...
"McCain's help for Keating came after Keating had donated $112,000 to McCain from 1982 to 1987, had taken McCain and his family on nine trips, including three to the Bahamas, and had gone in on a business deal with McCain's wife and father-in-law.
In 1982, Keating held a fund-raiser for him, collecting more than $11,000 from 40 employees of American Continental Corp. In 1983, as McCain contemplated his House re-election, Keating hosted a $1,000-a-plate dinner for him, even though McCain had no serious competition. When McCain pushed for the Senate in 1986, Keating was there with more than $50,000. By 1987, McCain had received about $112,000 from Keating and his associates.
The Arizona Republic revealed that McCain's wife and her father had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center."
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pc251 year, 6 months ago
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The New York Times ran an article on January 28, 2008 revisiting the Keating scandal in addition to some other allegations of inappropriate behavior by McCain. Robert S. Bennett, whom McCain had hired to represent him in this matter, defended McCain's character. Bennett, who was the special investigator during the Keating Five scandal that The Times revisited in the article, said that he fully investigated McCain back then and suggested to the Senate Ethics Committee to not pursue charges against McCain because of "no evidence against him."The Ethics Committee concluded that Glenn's and McCain's involvement in the scheme was minimal.
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ybdogsct1 year, 6 months ago
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McCain's actions may not have been prosecutable, but the Senate Ethics investigatory committee did rebuke McCain for exercising poor judgment.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/195559...
"The Committee concludes that, given the personal benefits and campaign contributions he had received from Mr. Keating, Senator McCain exercised poor judgment in intervening with the regulators without first inquiring as to the Bank Board's position in the case in a more routine manner."
What's your excuse for McCain's links to lobbyists Charles Black, Craig Shirley, Doug Goodyear, Doug Davenport, Thomas G. Loeffler, SunCor, etc.? LOL.
http://mediamattersaction.org/freeride/lobbyists/
"Not only does the McCain campaign have more current and former lobbyist bundlers than any other candidate, but McCain has more current and former lobbyists working on his campaign staff than any other candidate in the 2008 presidential election."
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"But Obama's rules have some ambiguity, too. Some volunteer policy advisers are lobbyists, but at least one lobbyist, Moses Mercado of Ogilvy Government Relations in Washington, said he was asked to take a leave of absence from his firm before he volunteered."
Sneaky.
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injest1 year, 6 months ago
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"at least one lobbyist, Moses Mercado of Ogilvy Government Relations in Washington, said he was asked to take a leave of absence from his firm before he volunteered."
Sneaky."
So is that a nuance or a distraction?
Are you a racist for bringing it up?
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"PavÃa is not on leave from his law firm, Winston & Strawn, according to the managing partner of its Washington office, Thomas L. Mills, and has been an important part of the Obama campaign in Puerto Rico.
PavÃa has been a registered lobbyist for various arms of the Puerto Rican government since 2001, according to reports filed with the Senate. His firm was paid more than $3 million for lobbying for the commonwealth over that period, $110,000 for the first three months of this year."
But remember...he's a volunteer!!!
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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In February, Obama sent this letter to the governor of Puerto Rico:
Dear Governor Acevedo Vila:
Puerto Rico is a vitally important part of our country and Puerto Ricans have made immeasurable contributions to the United States. As President of the United States, I will pay close attention to issues that have an impact on the well-being of the people of Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico's status must be based on the principle of self-detennination. Puerto Rico has a proud history, an extraordinary culture, its own traditions, customs and language, and a distinct identity. As President, I will work closely with the Puerto Rican government, its civil society, and with Congress to create a genuine and transparent process for self-determination that will be true to the best traditions of democracy.
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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As President, I will actively engage Congress and the Puerto Rican people in promoting this deliberative, open and unbiased process, that may include a constitutional convention or a plebiscite, and my Administration will adhere to a policy of strict neutrality on Puerto Rican status matters. My Administration will recognize all valid options to resolve the question of Puerto Rico's status, including commonwealth, statehood, and independence.
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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I strongly believe in equality before the law for all American citizens. This principle extends fully to Puerto Ricans. The American citizenship of Puerto Ricans is constitutionally guaranteed for as long as the people of Puerto Rico choose to retain it. I reject the assertion in reports submitted by a Presidential Task Force on December 22, 2005 and December 21, 2007 that sovereignty over Puerto Rico could be unilaterally transferred by the United States to a foreign country, and the U.S. citizenship of Puerto Ricans is not constitutionally guaranteed.
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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I will also work closely with the government of Puerto Rico, its private sector and labor leaders to advance an aggressive agenda of job creation, economic development and new prosperity. The levels of unemployment on the Island over the last three decades are unacceptable, which is why I will propose the creation a federal-Puerto Rico joint task force to study and report not later than August 31, 2009 on specific ways to maximize the use of existing federal initiatives to generate jobs in Puerto Rico or on new federal initiatives to achieve that goal.
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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In addition, I will work closely with the govemment of Puerto Rico and Congress to enhance the participation of Puerto Rico in Medicaid and all federal health care assistance programs. My Administration will actively work with the Department of Defense as well to achieve an environmentally acceptable clean-up ofthe former U.S. Navy lands in Vieques, Puerto Rico. We will closely monitor the health of the people of Vieques and promote appropriate remedies to health conditions caused by military activities conducted by the U.S. Navy on Vieques. I will also work to evaluate and expand the existing land use plan for the former U.S. Navy lands to prioritize improving the lives of the Island's residents and the sustainable economic development of the people ofVieques.
Sincerely,
Barack Obama
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Dicax_Maximus1 year, 6 months ago
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Wolfie - I must respectfully correct your remark. He's a politician....
Politician - Member of the species Lyingingforlifeus, sub-genus Twofacedgitsus. These creatures are normally to be found in front of TV camera's (usually holding the very young of the Homo Sapiens species, possibly a mating ritual TBD) or in their strange dens (normally called Senate, Congress, Houses Of Parliment or simlilar). They are hard to distinguish from Homo Sapiens, until they start speaking. At which point even the layman can easily identify them.
Observable traits :-
Lying
Cheating
Flip-flopping
Obfuscating
Denial of knowledge
Hypocrisy
Accepting obscene amounts of money for after dinner speeches (although God know's who in their right mind would want to listen)
Writing incredibly boring autobiographies
Sanity Advice - AVOID ANY CONTACT AT ALL COSTS !
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tbkennedy531 year, 6 months ago
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I posted this sometime back:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/05/19/...
similar story.
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walden31 year, 6 months ago
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'Yeah, he works for us, but doesn't get paid.' It sounds like what the definition of is is. Mealy mouthed at best. Kind of like, 'I wasn't in church those particular Sundays that the Rev. Wright went off.'
Why should I cut him slack just because he's a Democrat?
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vettenut1 year, 6 months ago
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FTA: "But Obama's rules also have been somewhat ambiguous."
If the rules are indeed "ambiguous," then the persons of said campaign will have no problem living with them.
After all, ambiguity (to say nothing of appearing to live in an alternate reality) is the very soul of B.H.O.'s candidacy:
Flip-flopping on Iraq and on meeting with with Iran's pres.
Proclaiming himself as a "uniter" while tolerating overt racism from the mouth of his pastor for 20 years.
Telling the kind folks of Iowa that he understands their lives, and then accusing them of clinging to their guns and religion....
I'm just waiting to hear the (hardly) famous comment that "I was for that before I was against that" come out of his mouth.
Only, from him, I would not be surprised if it would come out as "I was for that AND I was against that, at the same time."
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vettenut1 year, 6 months ago
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Here's the "alternate reality" angle of B.H.O.:
--seeing (dead) fallen heroes in his audience in Las Cruces, NM.
--Having visited "57 states (of the US) so far, with 2 more to go" (Portland, OR) Would he please name ALL 59 states for us????
--understanding how the people of KY would prefer someone (H.R.C.) from a nearby state (Arkansas), instead of him. (Perhaps he learned geography from a teacher who did not realize that Illinois actually borders KY, whereas AR does not!)
--Confusing Memorial Day with Veteran's Day
--(FTA) Stating in his letter to PR Governor Acevedo that Puerto Ricans speak their own unique language (they speak both English and Spanish, not Puerto Rican-ese).
NROTFL!!!!!
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vettenut1 year, 6 months ago
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But the crowning glory of this alternate reality is the very thought that he would not hire someone as un-qualified as himself to manage his Chicago campaign office, YET he has the audacity to ask the citizens of the US (all 59 states worth) to "hire" him as the CEO and COO of the single superpower nation on the face of this planetâ;¦.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 6 months ago
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vettenut:
"to "hire" him as the CEO and COO of the single superpower nation on the face of this planetÃ;Æ;Ã;¢;Ã;â;;Ã;¦."
Not really, communist Russia kind of went away, not Russia though; Germans thought they were a has been too.
And China, hard to ignore 20-25% of the worlds population, especially if they have the money.
Me I think they are just watching USA destroy itself.
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"Former Federal Lobbyists Are On Obama's Staff, Including Deputy Campaign Manager Steve Hildebrand, Teal Baker And Emmett Beliveau. "The Obama campaign restricts current lobbyists from joining the campaign. But a bunch of former lobbyists have helped out--including deputy campaign manager Steve Hildebrand, Teal Baker, and Emmett Beliveau--who could easily slip back onto K Street once the campaign is over.""
Christopher Beam, "Obama's Lobbying Ties," Slate's "Trailhead" Blog, http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/arch...
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"Obama Does Not Ban Current Lobbyists From Providing Unpaid Advice To His Campaign; Advisers Who Are Federal Lobbyists Include Moses Mercado Of Ogilvy Government Relations. "Obama does not ban even current lobbyists from lending advice to the campaign--which could be considered an 'in kind' contribution. Moses Mercado, a former adviser to Dick Gephardt and a lobbyist for Ogilvy Government Relations, volunteers his advice and time for the campaign but declined to be on payroll.""
Christopher Beam, "Obama's Lobbying Ties," Slate's "Trailhead" Blog, http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/arch...
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"Obama's Campaign Has Refused To Release A Comprehensive List Of Outside Advisers."There is no full list of lobbyists advising Sen. Obama, and a campaign spokesman declined to release the campaign's list of outside advisers. Some advisers have asked to remain anonymous, citing professional or personal reasons, said Tommy Vietor, an Obama spokesman, who acknowledged that federally registered lobbyists may be among them.""
Mary Jacoby, "Obama Campaign Enlists Lobbyists", The Wall Street Journal
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"Obama Also Uses Bundlers Who Were Previously Registered As Federal Lobbyists. "Obama now has 14 bundlers who are also federally registered lobbyists, but they are currently inactive, according to Public Citizen.""
Christopher Beam, "Obama's Lobbying Ties," Slate's "Trailhead" Blog, http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/arch...
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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The Boston Globe story on Obama and lobbyists 2007:
PACs and lobbyists aided Obama's rise
Using campaign appearances, e-mails, and Iowa TV ads, Senator Obama has repeatedly reminded voters that his presidential campaign does not accept contributions from lobbyists or political action committees, casting his decision as a noble departure from the ways of Washington.
But behind Obama's campaign rhetoric about taking on special interests lies a more complicated truth. A Globe review of Obama's campaign finance records shows that he collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from lobbyists and PACs as a state legislator in Illinois, a US senator, and a presidential aspirant.
Though Obama has returned thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from registered federal lobbyists since he declared his candidacy in Feb, his presidential campaign has maintained ties with lobbyists & lobbying firms to help raise some of the $58.9 million he collected through the first 6 months of 2007.
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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Obama has raised more than $1.4 million from members of law and consultancy firms led by partners who are lobbyists, The Los Angeles Times reported last week. And The Hill, a Washington newspaper, reported earlier this year that Obama's campaign had reached out to lobbyists' networks to use their contacts to help build his fund-raising base.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007...
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"Obama's Former Lobbyist Bundlers: Timothy M. Broas, Frank Clark, Howard W. Gutman, Scott Harris, Allan J. Katz, William T. Lake, Robert S. Litt, Kenneth G. Lore, Thomas J. Perrelli, Thomas A. Reed, Paul N. Roth, Alan Solomont, Robert M. Sussman and Tom E. Wheeler."
Public Citizen Website,
http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/index.cfm
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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USA Today: "Obama may like voters to think he'd cross the street rather than deal with a lobbyist, but nine of his campaign staffers are former lobbyists, and some of his informal advisers are current lobbyists." Editorial, "Obama's Claims On Lobbyist Money Prove Flimsy," USA Today
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"Obama Accepts Campaign Contribution From Lobbyists' Spouses And Holds Fundraisers At Law Offices That Engage In Lobbying. "Although Obama refuses direct campaign contributions from 'Washington lobbyists,' he takes money from lobbyists' spouses and holds fundraisers at the offices of law firms that lobby Congress. He won't touch money from PACs or lobbyists representing big oil and drug companies, but he happily accepts huge amounts of money from executives at those companies and many others. In fact, he's relying on two oil company executives to raise $50,000 apiece for his campaign.""
Editorial, "Obama's Claims On Lobbyist Money Prove Flimsy," USA Today
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"The Center For Responsive Politics Has Calculated That Obama Accepted At Least $85,000 In Contributions From State And Municipal Lobbyists And Family Members Of Federal Lobbyists. "The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics (CRP) has found that Mrs. Clinton has accepted more than $750,000 from lobbyists so far during the presidential campaign, while Mr. Obama took more than $85,000. Massie Ritsch, a spokesman for the center, said the group's figures include donations from family members of federal lobbyists as well as contributions from state and municipal lobbyists.""
Jim McElhatton, "Obama Takes Funds From Lobby Partners," The Washington Times
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"Obama Has Accepted "Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars" From Partners Of Law Firms That Engage In Federal Lobbying. "Sen. Barack Obama, who has refused donations from federal lobbyists and paints his Democratic presidential rival as a Washington insider for accepting their contributions, took hundreds of thousands of dollars from partners at dozens of firms that lobbied Congress in 2007.""
Jim McElhatton, "Obama Takes Funds From Lobby Partners," The Washington Times
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"Obama's Fundraising Team Includes 38 Members Of Law Firms That Engage In Federal Lobbying. "Barack Obama often boasts he is 'the only candidate who isn't taking a dime from Washington lobbyists,' yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show.""
Ken Dilanian, "Obama Has Ties To Lobbyists Despite Boasts Of Not Taking Their Money"
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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Obama Also Has Multiple Super Delegate Endorsements From Current Federal Lobbyists:
John Melcher Is A Democrat Super Delegate Supporting Barack Obama.
The Politico Website, http://www.politico.com/superdelegates/
Melcher Is A Registered Federal Lobbyist.
U.S. Senate Office Of Public Records
http://soprweb.senate.gov/index.cfm?event=submi...
Joyce Brayboy Is A Democrat Super Delegate Supporting Barack Obama. The Politico Website, http://www.politico.com/superdelegates/
Brayboy Is A Registered Federal Lobbyist With The Glover Park Group, LLC.
U.S. Senate Office Of Public Records
http://soprweb.senate.gov/index.cfm?event=submi...
Moses Mercado Is A Democrat Super Delegate Supporting Barack Obama. The Politico Website,
http://www.politico.com/superdelegates/
Mercado Is A Registered Federal Lobbyist With Ogilvy Government Relations.
U.S. Senate Office Of Public Records
http://soprweb.senate.gov/index.cfm?event=submi...
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NoWayMan1 year, 6 months ago
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the McCain/Charlie Black connection still tops any and all lobbyist ties that obama could possibly have.
Francisco PaviÂa is just a staffer in PR who won't be around in a few weeks and isn't part of Obama's inner circle.
meanwhile, Charlie Black is one of McCain's top advisors and has unfettered access to McCain's ear. that relationship is dangerous for America. the Obama/Pavia connection is not.
and its amazing how some class-less folks on this board are still zapping aideng for being fair and balanced by posting this story about obama.
meanwhile all those same people keep swearing bush's sh*t doesn't stink even though their noses are covered with it.
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"In December he said in a New Hampshire Public Radio program, "I intend to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over, that they had not funded my campaigns""
When exactly do you intend to tell them that, Mr. Obama?
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not2needy1 year, 6 months ago
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He has a few lobbyists working for and with him, all that information is available on the internet, and i personally have posted the ones that each candidate has in times past.
HOWEVER, there's a major difference in having a few and having hundreds, which is what McCain has on his list.
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not2needy1 year, 6 months ago
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AND McCain was against torture before he was for it, and he was for talking to Hamas before he was against it, and against the war in Iraq before he was for it, just as he has been for many things before he was against them and against many things before he was for them, HENCE he is an even bigger hypocrit.. Lessor of the evils comes to mind here. Fact is, i don't think McCain even knows what he's for or against, he just waits for other people to tell him, prolly Leibermann, seems he has been bailing McLame out a lot.
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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Just another case of a liberal telling everyone else, do as I say not as I do. As a McCain supporter, if we had someone like that, Barrack would be holding a press conference on the steps of the nearest courthouse with Jessie and Rev Al going nuts. This will be buried under the carpets of the "conservative" media at ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN as a non-issue.
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EDWARDIII1 year, 6 months ago
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Are we over-reacting?
Are lobyists like lawyers-- obliged to serve the interests of a client within certain ethical parameters without regard to the guilt of the client?
Are lobyists who follow their ethics any worse a species than lawyers?
Which candidate has more lobbyists on staff?
Which candidate has more lawyers on staff?
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Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago
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Just like Hillary Clinton was given a pass for breaking all the federal laws about doing that investigation to come up with her womb to tomb medical program. Her friend Janet Reno said since she wasn't paid by the government there was nothing illegal.
Democrats always look for an out. Obama's people got this one from the Clintons.
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