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    bobo-in-texas1 year, 6 months ago

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    Everyday I am so glad that neither Algore nor John Kerry-Heinz were elected.

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      donald511 year, 6 months ago

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      Bobo, you really are an idiot!

      almost 300 % increase in terrorist attacks worldwide since teh Iraq invasion. Dumya never caught the Anthrax killer and has said he doens't even care if he gets Bin laden. Then he dismantles the 911 Commission that he didn't want in the first place because he knows he would get the same F's he got when the Commission was active.

      Neither of the two people you mentioned would have surrounded themselves with such incompetent people as to ignore a Presidential brief titled: "OBL Determined to Attack Inside the USA", that mentioned the use of planes. What an idiot you are!

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        nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago

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        Now, now Donald

        Doesn't seem that Congress was too eager to follow the Commission recommendations either

        In case you missed the reports on the topic in 2006:

        Democrats Reject Key 9/11 Panel Suggestion

        Neither Party Has an Appetite for Overhauling Congressional Oversight of Intelligence

        It was a solemn pledge, repeated by Democratic leaders and candidates over and over: If elected to the majority in Congress, Democrats would implement all of the recommendations of the bipartisan commission that examined the attacks of Sept. 11

        But with control of Congress now secured, Democratic leaders have decided for now against implementing the one measure that would affect them most directly: a wholesale reorganization of Congress to improve oversight and funding of the nation's intelligence agencies. Instead, Democratic leaders may create a panel to look at the issue and produce recommendations

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

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          HannibalBarca1 year, 6 months ago

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          So in other words according to Donald51 and nostalgia the whole gov is inept, well I agree with both of you.

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            nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago

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            EXACTLY HannibalBarca!!!!

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              jimdoze1 year, 6 months ago

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              Which is why the founding fathers, in their great wisdom, were all about less of it and not more.

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                GWHayduke1 year, 6 months ago

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                This conversation must be a direct result of Bush's building of the largest (personnell & expenditure) government EVER.

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                  jimdoze1 year, 6 months ago

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                  Could well be... are the Dems willing to reduce non-military government expenditures? No? I didn't think so?

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                  Jaydee401 year, 6 months ago

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                  The founding father could never have imagined a world like we now have, I think if they had there would be many more checks and balances in place. As for more or less does it really matter when the people in question don't have a clue what they are doing?

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              BigBadJohn6661 year, 6 months ago

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              Neither of the two people you mentioned would have surrounded themselves with such incompetent people as

              They wouldn't have had too. The two of them together had more than enough incompetence to go around.

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              NoWayMan1 year, 6 months ago

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              this "no attacks since 911" stuff is nothing more than a big fat lie.

              since 911...

              anthrax attack. 5 dead. no leads. no arrests.

              Saudi Arabia, numerous attacks on US interests (including our embassy) and numerous American deaths since 911.

              attacks on US consulates/embassies in Pakistan, Greece, Syria, Yemen, Serbia. plus thwarted attacks in France, Azerbijan, Austria.

              the story says that for 2004 - 2008 there's been "No successful attacks by terrorist groups inside the United States or against American interests abroad."

              more lies.

              2004 Saudi Arabia:

              - terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.

              - terrorists storm the US consulate, kill 5 consulate employees.

              2005 Jordan:

              - Suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels (Radisson, Grand Hyatt, Days Inn). 57 dead.

              2007 Greece:

              - US embassy attacked by anti-tank missiles. damage but no injuries.

              so, enough with the lies!!

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                nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago

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                Did you read the article??

                It doesn't say the attacks here or on our overseas interests have ceased, it says the attacks have "DWINDLED"

                As the article notes, it was widely predicted that attacks would INCREASE - hasn't happened

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                  HannibalBarca1 year, 6 months ago

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                  But also in one of OBL tapes, he said the battle plan was to fight USA and bleed them dry on home ground.

                  With the amount of illegals that cross US borders and the lack of any attacks on US soil, I would say it is because they are doing what they said they would, not due to any security efforts in USA

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                    Beau78901 year, 6 months ago

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                    How many attacks can you name in the six and a half years BEFORE 9/11 (as opposed to the same amount of time since)?

                    I can think of four, off hand--the Atlanta Olympics, the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, and the USS Cole.

                    Add the kidnapping and execution Daniel Pearl to the list NoWayMan gave, and there are MORE attacks on Americans now, NOT FEWER.

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                      Beau78901 year, 6 months ago

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                      The above comment was supposed to be in response to nostalgia's above.

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                        Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago

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                        Beau7890

                        "there are MORE attacks on Americans now, NOT FEWER."

                        LOL

                        You have kept your head in the sand because you can name only four and one was not Islamo Fascists in origin. You forgot about several embassies and a marine barracks etc. Almost as many died before 9/11 as died then. Wake up!!!!!!

                        There were many more before 9/11.

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                          Beau78901 year, 6 months ago

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                          Endoscopy, my eyes are wide open. You should take your own advice: wake up and look beyond the Republican party line.

                          There is also homegrown terror, and it will kill you just as dead as any kind of Islamic attack will.

                          Attacks on embassies and marine barracks? Name them. Start AFTER February of 1995, to make sure we're talking about the same timeframe as this article.

                          I will admit I could be missing some. But my point is that terrorism against Americans is EXTREMELY rare, contrary to what the fear mongerers would have you believe. Your chance of dying from being struck by lightning is orders of magnitude greater than your chance of being killed in a terrorist attack.

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                            Beau78901 year, 6 months ago

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                            And if you're saying our actions in the Middle East are preventing future terror attacks, then just wait until suicide bombings start happening in this country. There is NOTHING we can do to prevent the sort of widespread, everyday bombings happening over there, once enough people get here. We've created a thousand times more people who wish us harm since Bush started his endless war.

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                              Jaydee401 year, 6 months ago

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                              " There is NOTHING we can do to prevent the sort of widespread, everyday bombings happening over there, once enough people get here. We've created a thousand times more people who wish us harm since Bush started his endless war."

                              I have been saying that for a while now, the are already here. Enough people are within US borders who hate what the government stand for if it was really their intention to kill Americans then Americans would be dropping like flies. The CIA is more interested in playing their little games than what the people they trained are up to.

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                                Beau78901 year, 6 months ago

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                                Homeland Security is NOT making our home secure.

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                            GWHayduke1 year, 6 months ago

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                            There are "terroristic" attacks on a nearly daily basis in Iraq instigated toward Americans.

                            If THOSE dont count, why would: "You forgot about several embassies and a marine barracks etc. Almost as many died before 9/11 as died then"?

                            I guess it depends on the cherries you pick to make your humble pie.

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                            nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago

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                            "How many attacks can you name in the six and a half years BEFORE 9/11 (as opposed to the same amount of time since)?"

                            There is a list going back to 1988 in the article

                            Did you read the article?

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                              Beau78901 year, 6 months ago

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                              Yes. Did you read my comment?

                              The six and a half years immediately preceding 9/11. We were talking about determining whether Bush has made us safer than before. Remember?

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                              bobo-in-texas1 year, 6 months ago

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                              Read the article and you'll see that your grasp for the facts is sorely lacking.

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                              jordan111 year, 6 months ago

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                              The attacks you say have dwindled, reached their height DURING this administration. No accountability is implied for the bush administrations responsibility for the increase in the first place. No accountability is implied for bush, cheney, rice, rumsfeld etc. having ignored the warnings before 9/11, & this has been proven over and over again. Sooo, they blew it initially, and things have improved, and you want people to applaud bush now because he somehow got it right? You ARE kidding.

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                                NoWayMan1 year, 6 months ago

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                                nostalgia,

                                read it again. it says from 2004 - 2008 there were "No successful attacks by terrorist groups inside the United States or against American interests abroad."

                                it doesn't say they dwindled between those years. it says there were no succesful attacks. and thats just a lie.

                                thats why I used the quotes. its verbatim from the article.

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                                  tanglang1 year, 6 months ago

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                                  There is no evidence whatsoever that the anthrax attacks came from islamic terrorists.

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                                    Will13131 year, 6 months ago

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                                    doesn't matter if it was a little league team. that instigated it ...

                                    it was a terrorist attack..

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                                      tanglang1 year, 6 months ago

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                                      So you would lump eric rudolph into stats about islamic attacks on America? That sounds like the smart thing to do.

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                                        NoWayMan1 year, 6 months ago

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                                        a terrorist attack is a terrorist attack. a mad bomber is a mad bomber. and his bombs didn't discriminate so why should we?

                                        what about timothy mcveigh?

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                                          tanglang1 year, 6 months ago

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                                          Again, not an islamic terrorist. He should not be included in conversations about the global jihad that has been launched against us.

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                                            NoWayMan1 year, 6 months ago

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                                            you can go ahead and make racial and religious divisions if you want, but an enemy of america is an enemy of america, no matter what color or religion they happen to be.

                                            Mcveigh proved that an american can be just as dangerous and deadly to america as any foreigner could.

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                                    mivan41 year, 6 months ago

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                                    http://news.propeller.com/story/2008/05/30/al-q... I hate to ruin your day, but that plan isn't working either. In fact AlQuaida is on the ropes now, hopefully we get to finish the job

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                                      HannibalBarca1 year, 6 months ago

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                                      Then why is Iraq oil to be split with 6 major oil companies; just like Iran 1907

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                                        mivan41 year, 6 months ago

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                                        What does beating AlQuaida have to do with oil companies splitting oil? Bottom line is Iraqi's are helping us now that they are starting to understand what Terrorism is doing to them now if we could only get Democrats to understand!

                                        To farm the oil of course Iraq will need help. Saudi and most other oil nations had our help getting started too. Most of the oil money is to go to rebuilding Iraq.

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                                          Beau78901 year, 6 months ago

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                                          You DO realize terrorism wasn't doing anything to Iraqis before we destroyed their government, don't you?

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                                            mivan41 year, 6 months ago

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                                            sorry about the pos I hit the wrong button.

                                            What, you mean Saddam wasn't terrorizing his own people ! What rock did you just climb from under ? You mean that Saddam didn't have a relationship with AlQuaida Maybe you need to read the 59 page pentagon report and the Congressional report.

                                            Yes I know the Pentagon report in in its headlines says no smoking Gun as a link to Alquaida and Iraq -- BUT if you take the time to read more than the HEADLINES you learn if the gun wasn't smoking it was CLEARLY still hot! Saddam supplied training grounds and had a agreement that when their goals didn't conflict with each other that they would work together!!! Now lets see Alquaida goal was to destroy US and Saddam likewise THINGS that mke you go UMMMMM! NO Saddam wasn't in control of AlQuaida, but this is almost as strong a link as there was with the Taliban.

                                            And , yes contrary to what many Liberals think AlQuaida was in Iraq BEFORE we were!

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                                          Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago

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                                          Keep in mind none of the oil is coming to the US.

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