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mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
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Why not? Americans and Iraqis are still dying because of Bush's lies. Our military and economy are still ruined. Why shouldn't we talk about this "$hit" again?
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mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
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"Pelosi wants no part of it because then she and Kerry and a lot of other Democrats would be exposed for their part in the war lead up."
--You have an interesting imagination but none of what you say mitigates the fact that when Democrats and Republicans agreed to allow Bush to disarm Iraq, they didn't agree to anything like what this horrific three-hour tour has morphed into over the course of 5 years. THAT is the issue you cons fail to get through your thick skulls. No one, neither Democrat nor Republican authorized Bush to invade Iraq, AND destroy the country in a way that it would ultimately be necessary to stay there indefinitely and spend trillions of dollars giving the Middle East a surprise makeover. You cons love regurgitating CRAP about what "everyone knew" and what "everyone thought." No sane person would have given Bush the green light to do any of that and cons know this. No way, Jose. ;-(
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Teech1 year, 5 months ago
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This guy is a gutsy little booger! He doesn't appear to follow any lock-step party doctrine and doesn't seem to be a "yes man." He's a Democrat for sure, but one who questions all policy and decisions. A renegade? No. A clear thinker? Seems to be. Hears the music of the Democrats, but marches to his own drum.
I hope there's a spot for him in the next administration.
Recall, if you will, that Lincoln actively sought out his opponents and those with divergent viewpoints and INCLUDED them in his administration. When his administration came to a consensus, it was a STRONG consensus tempered in the crucible of opposition and debate.
Future administrations would be wise to emulate him.
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TemplarScribe1 year, 5 months ago
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Were I the President, I'd find room for him at the very next Supreme Court Justice vacancy.
His drive, his couragenousness, and his desire to see justice done despite the odds, are exactly the qualities needed in a court dominated by justices who want only to avoid rocking the business-political status quo.
And while Secretary of State wouldn't be a stretch for Kucinich's talent, I'm guessing that spot's already been offered to someone else.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 5 months ago
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Lest your analogy go to far it should be noted that Lincoln presided over the bloodiest conflict in American history, with over 1,000,000 Americans dead and half of America ravished, with major cities razed and farms and infrastructure and economy ruined.
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TemplarScribe1 year, 5 months ago
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Hey,LibsR:
Thanks for pointing out the historical errors in the abovec post. You've proven you have the ability and the will to point out the errors in other's reasoning.
If you could only do that with politics, levelling an equally valid and harsh eye upon both Dems and Reps, pointing out the errors of both, joining in on occasion with the Dems and pointing out occasionally when the Reps are wrong...
Then you may do a real service to the Propeller community at large.
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Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
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This is hilarious. Everybody in the west was saying the same thing. The Clinton administration was saying the same thing. The Democrats and Republicans were saying the same thing. Bush fooled the world by lying.
Why can't Kucinich and rabid Libs all remember history. Bush was saying what the world was but he was lying. Real astute.
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djn3nunez31 year, 5 months ago
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I'm sure it's hilarioius as hell to the families of the 4000 soldiers (or the countless Iraqis who have lost innocent family members). If Everybody was saying the same thing why was it so hard to get the UN on board with military action? Clinton never once said he would invade and occupy Iraq to remove Saddam from power. Even the President father publish his rationale for not removing Saddam.
Rice and Powell both stated in 2001 Iraq was no threat and had no WMD production facilities.
Bush certainly didn't fool the world as world opinion showed. However the American (liberal) media sure helped by parroting each of the administrations false assertions about the threat Iraq, a country that had been plagued by two costly wars, and 11 year of crippling sanctions, posed to the worlds remaining superpower. Anyone in America calling the Bush Administration out on the obvious lies was proclaimed a near traitor and/or terrorist sympathizer.
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mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
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When did Congress agree to fund the destruction and rebuilding of the Middle East from scratch? When did they agree we were going to spend several trillion dollars and stay there indefinitely? Where is that spelled out in the agreement, Endo?
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protoham1 year, 5 months ago
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 5 months ago
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We need to keep the Chimp busy getting his defense ready so no more harm to American can happen.
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mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
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LOL...hammy, were you wingers concerned about your elected officials wasting time and money when you found out Iraq was gonna cost WAY the hell more than the 200 billion dollars originally estimated? Nope. What about when the GOP was barging into the personal matters of the Schiavo family for weeks on end? Exactly. What about when Bush was burning up gas flying around the country trying to shove his ridiculous SS reform ideas down America's throat? Not then either, huh? Um, what about in Nov 2004. Er...Non.
So basically you're really just expelling a lot of hot offensive gas over something that you DID NOT CARE ABOUT when Republicans were in charge. That's called hypocrisy and supporting party over country (aka treason).
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tanglang1 year, 5 months ago
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If McCain is elected, will you call him a chimp too? What about Barack? Can I call him "The Chimp in Charge" if he gets elected?
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 5 months ago
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No one can ever be the lifetime chimp and chump that George Bush has been. Everything that he has been involved with has been a failure and he is always going top be nothing less than daddy's little idiot.
Only those who still support him, without being able to claim any good accomplishments after 7 1/2 long years are bigger chimps.
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cushi1 year, 5 months ago
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TemplarScribe1 year, 5 months ago
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Been doing what? Being in denial!
Tell you what, Tangly:
If Barack backs every Democratic spending bill for six years without a veto, even though it increases the deficit by an amount equal to what the Bush and Repub Congress did from 2000 through 2006 --
If Barack invades a country despite CIA and DIA reports claiming they pose no real threat --
If Barack angers every one of our allies (the few we have left) by taking a "my way or the highway, take it or leave it, black or white, you're either with us or agin' us" attitude --
If Barack creates more signing statements, effectively denying even Repub-passed laws by limiting or changing how he'll interpret them, than all other Presidents combined --
If Barack chooses to ram anti-Constitutional laws down our throats --
Then, Tangly, THEN, you have my permission to call him any damn thing you want.
Until then, open up your eyes and see what a fiasco this administration has been, in every way, shape and form.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 5 months ago
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Actually what you have been doing is defending any attempt to expect Bush to do anything for our country.
What you HAVE been doing is assisting every effort to permit the nation's leader to lead us right into the shiiter.
And what's worse mis you still won't admit how bad he has been, so we expect nothing from you. Do what you want, but don't expect much respect here. Decency yes..but respect, you have to earn.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 5 months ago
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You can call anyone whatever you want to, but right minded people don't have to listen, even if it is only in the form of a bad joke.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 5 months ago
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tang, Old Buddy, I think "The Chimp" is gonna have to stick on W, based on both behavior and appearance. It doesn't fit McCain at all. Maybe "Ditto". Or I kinda like "Old Fool" (as in "There's no fool like an...") if enough of us could get the Hepburn voice down right. As for Obama, give Baby Boy a chance. He's WAAYYY to suave to ever be a monkey of any sort. If he can't do any better than the present administration, you can RELY on me to come up with something. I don't like it when Republicans embarrass the nation, but I will not abide a Democrat who does. LOL.
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mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
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Oh, tangy...You're such a jester --pretending you can't comprehend why referring to Bush or McCain as a "chimp" doesn't have the same racial overtones as it would for Obama. I guess you've forgotten why John McCain is what you're stuck with for a Presidential nominee. If only noose worshipping George "Macacawitz" Allen had kept his racist mouth SHUT, he'd probably be in McCain's place. Oh well... You got a guy who didn't "get" Martin Luther King's message so there's really not THAT much of a difference, after all, huh? ;-(
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tanglang1 year, 5 months ago
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It's about respecting the office of the Presidency. Whether you like him or not, as an American you should respect the office.
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mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
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tangy, that might be a halfway competent dodge--if I saw you LEAP to Bill Clinton's defense every time one of your buddies here calls him a "wh0re hopper" and worse. But you don't do that, do you? And before you bother to respond, let me remind you that you're under oath, Propeller has an archive of your comments, and I know how to use The Google. ;-P
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tkyrchncs1 year, 5 months ago
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As long as there are criminals in the highest offices of the land, there IS nothing more important for the legislature to do.
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tanglang1 year, 5 months ago
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Sure there is. LIke stregthening the dollar, booting the illegals, completing the job in Iraq and Afghanistan, fixing the problems with social security and health care...
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Teech1 year, 5 months ago
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I still don't believe the votes for impeachment are there.
In any case, Bush will be the 'Roman Polanski" of presidents. After leaving office and being brought up on war criminal charges, he will live in exile avoiding extradition and trial. He'll have tons of money, and probably won't miss this country he has trashed even a little bit. The Bush legacy of a 10 trillion national debt and thousands of physically and mentally damaged vets will be as difficult for future administrations to deal with as will all the other disasters Bush and Cheney have planned and executed. Civil action against these thugs will be fruitless since their billions will be safely stashed away in Bahrain and South America.
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Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
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This will be a circus. Especially when they try to bring up proof. They keep forgetting that little problem. Repeating the lie that Bush lied does not make it true. Kicinich fell for his own Argument ad Nauseum. That is funny.
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Klarissa1 year, 5 months ago
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endo - and guess who the witnesses will be??? under oath. The congressional committees have dems and repubs -
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mesodude1 year, 5 months ago
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"This will be a circus. "
--You mean unlike all the past "orderly" impeachments? LMAO Cons crack me up. ;-x
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scott42611 year, 5 months ago
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"Repeating the lie that Bush lied does not make it true."
Didn't Scott McClellan just issue a book? Hmmmm.
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TemplarScribe1 year, 5 months ago
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Yes, and McClellan will have a chance to build his own case vs. Bush and Cheney, UNDER OATH, on June 20th.
Get the popcorn ready!
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cosmogenium1 year, 5 months ago
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Locky: Why not? Isn't the Constitution worth it? Isn't international integrity worth it? Isn't national pride worth it?
Endo: You think there isn't any proof? Think they got rid of every e-mail, every document, every spook? Don't count on it.
BTW, Bush admitting to illegal surveillance of Americans in the U.S. on national television is just a start.
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