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  Edmar141 year, 6 months ago

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  Hyperbola, you really don't get it, do you. Your illness is so great that you don't even know that the audience that you are preaching to doesn't care about what you have to say or post. Unless you haven't noticed, in America, education is compulsory. Our schools teach us to think for ourselves and we don't preach hate in our schools, houses of worship or in the streets. Fortunately, we recognize when we are being manipulated. The vast majority of people on Propeller know that you can't think for yourself and that if Google were to disappear tomorrow, you'd be totally impotent intellectually. Counterpunch, Antiwar, Populistamerica.com are all recognized as trash by most of the people here and by most educated people. Counterpunch's own editors make fun of its mission. Go get psychiatric help. You can't even recognize when you are making a complete fool of yourself which doesn't help your credibility at all. Not that you have any to begin with.

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      Edmar141 year, 6 months ago

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      In case you don't know, it's not a guy, its a gal. Not that it makes any difference. I'm not stalking anybody. When someone deliberately uses information which misinforms, is bigoted and racist, I tell it like it is. I would do the same if the victim were black, red, gay, or disabled. The plain fact is that this gal lives to hate and misinformation is her way of feeling powerful at other's expense. Fortunately, most people seem to see her for what she is. There are times that I "stalk" (to use your term) anybody that uses this forum to vindictively malign and misinform. And yes, I'm not always nice about it. Does that answer your question?

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        Edmar141 year, 6 months ago

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        Just FYI, I've spent the last 25 years teaching university students the historical facts of the last 100 years of world history. It bothers me greatly when anybody uses tactics which are so obviously propaganda in nature that they attempt to persuade people to believe things which are patently false. It builds hatred and it's dangerous. Unless you never took a course in history, these tactics have been used in the past and have caused untold misery upon millions. I won't see it happen again if I can help it in any way. I don't intend to save the world, just a very tiny piece of it. Maybe you agree with her conduct and methods?

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          hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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          So you have spent the last 25 years telling lies to your students about zionist crimes against humanity? There are jews who put truth and human rights ahead of racism, religious fanatisicsm and crimes against humanity, but you are not amongst them. You should start learning from honest, moral jews like this one.

          The end of Israel?

          Hannah Mermelstein

          I am feeling optimistic about Palestine.

          I know it sounds crazy. How can I use "optimistic" and "Palestine" in the same sentence when conditions on the ground only seem to get worse? Israeli settlements continue to expand on a daily basis, the checkpoints and segregated road system are becoming more and more institutionalized, more than 10,000 Palestinian political prisoners are being held in Israeli jails, Gaza is under heavy attack and the borders are entirely controlled by Israel, preventing people from getting their most basic human needs met.

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            hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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            We can never forget these things and the daily suffering of the people, and yet I dare to say that I am optimistic. Why? Ehud Olmert....

            ... That's right, the Prime Minister of Israel is currently trying to negotiate a "two-state solution" specifically because he realizes that if he doesn't, Palestinians might begin to demand, en masse, equal rights to Israelis...

            .. am optimistic not because I think the process of ethnic cleansing and apartheid in Israel/Palestine is going to end tomorrow, but because I can feel the ideology behind these policies beginning to collapse. For years the true meaning of political Zionism has been as ignored as its effects on Palestinian daily life. And suddenly it is beginning to break open. Olmert's comments last week are reminiscent of those of early Zionist leaders who talked openly of transfer and ethnic cleansing in order to create an artificial Jewish majority in historic Palestine.

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              hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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              ...We must expel the Arabs and take their places and if we have to use force to guarantee our own right to settle in those places -- then we have force at our disposal. - David Ben-Gurion, Israel's "founding father" and first prime minister, 1937

              So this idea of a "two-state solution" a la Olmert -- which I would argue provides neither a "state" nor a "solution" for the Palestinian people -- is the new transfer....

              ...So why am I optimistic? Why do I think Olmert will fail, if not in the short term, at least in the long term? There are many signs....

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                hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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                ......So when Olmert warns that we will "face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights" and that "the state of Israel [will be] finished," I get a little flutter of excitement. I think of the 171 Palestinian organizations who have called on the international community to begin campaigns of boycott, divestment, and sanctions against Israel until Israel complies with international law. This is already a South African-style struggle, and we outside of Palestine need to do our part. Especially those of us who live in the US, the country that gives Israel more than $10 million every single day, must take responsibility for the atrocities committed in our name and with our money.

                ... Ultimately, this is our role as Americans. It is to begin campaigns in our churches, synagogues, mosques, universities, cities, unions, etc...

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                  hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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                  ...as a Jewish-American, I know that while it might be scary to some, while it will require a lot of imagination, the end of Israel as a Jewish state could mean the beginning of democracy, human rights, and some semblance of justice in a land that has almost forgotten what that means.

                  (Hannah Mermelstein is co-founder and co-director of Birthright Unplugged, which takes mostly Jewish North American people into the West Bank to meet with Palestinian people and to equip them to return to their own communities and work for justice; and takes Palestinian children from refugee camps to Jerusalem, the sea, and the villages their grandparents fled in 1948, and supports them to document their experiences and create photography exhibits to share with their communities and with the world.)

                  http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9169.shtml

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                    Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago

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                    Hey, Muslims, your very own Quran seems to say Jews belong in Israel. Forget the taqqiya of hyperebola. Check this out: 017.104

                    YUSUFALI: And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.

                    PICKTHAL: And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.

                    SHAKIR: And We said to the Israelites after him: Dwell in the land: and when the promise of the next life shall come to pass, we will bring you both together in judgment.

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                      hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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                      Of course, jews were able to live all over the mideast until the racist, totalitarian zionists arrived from eastern europe in the 19th century. Time to end 19th century ideologies like nazism, stalinism and zionism once and for all.

                      And time for you to stop pretending that crimes against humanity by zionists can be covered up by appealing to judaism. Real jews condemn your duplicity.

                      Many Jews Are Questioning Israel

                      Do No Evil â;; The extent to which the 8 million Jews of the Diaspora identify with Israel is increasingly questionable. Jewish critics of Israel are increasingly willing to make themselves known. The majority of jews have chosen to live elsewhere, voting with their feet and some 750,000 Israeli Jews (15% of Israel's Jewish population) are now living abroad.

                      http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2007/09/14/...

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                        Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago

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                        Could you read your Quran's scriptures again, O taqqiya one.

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    hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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    Poor Edmar, stuck in a vicious circle of racist rage that zionism is being exposed for the crime against humanity that it is. Get some help.

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  Edmar141 year, 6 months ago

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  Hyperbola, Mark Twain once said "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". You aren't even worth arguing with, you're just so experienced.

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    hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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    What you mean Edmar is that you have no arguments that can justify zionist crimes against humanity in palestine. That is why you resort to smears - you have nothing more to cover up your complicity.

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