Overlooked: Obama's Anti-Smear Site »
Posted By Dakota 1 year ago in NewsLast week, Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's campaign launched a new website solely dedicated to debunking untruths about his life. Called Fight The Smears, the site is laid out in a clean, simple style: it lists each rumor, then neatly debunks it.
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Wolfie20071 year ago
So when is Obama going to tell the truth? This looks like a campaign donation site to me.
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BB641 year ago
It does look like a donation site. The other question it doesn't answer is how can someone who thinks he's so very smart, attend a church, that even by the most liberal standards is a center of racism and hate? There are really only three possibilities. The first one, he's too stupid to realize racism unless it's a fat bald white guy. I don't think that's the case, he's a good speech reader. Second option, he wanted their votes and didn't think the media would report Rev. Wright so it wasn't a problem to sit there with his kids and listen to hate. Third, he agrees that white America is the cause of all the world's problems.
For 23 years he sat there and supported Rev. Wright. Why doesn't his site explain that?
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Goppy1 year ago
I LIEK Wolfie's question: "When IS Obama gointa tell the truth?"
Our Truth: We say hes a Muslim ... aniokly says this nearly everday! Therefore, thats OUR Rightie truth ... and no amount of RATIONAL truth will push us off this pin head.
Our Truth: We say hes a Socialist ... libsR says this nearly everday! Therefore, thats OUR Rightie truth ... and no amount of ACTUAL truth will let blood flow to the REASONIN part of our brain non that one.
See my point?
We Righties make these grand pronouncements intended to DIVERT America's attention. And, since we are literally CRAAAAZIE, we all jump on board in a BIG WAY - and claim they ARE the truth.
The KILLER part is that ... any tiem Obama (or somebody we dont liek) counters these claims ... we THEN say hes tryin to SPIN it!!!
SEE?
Its pure evil genious!! And it just reels in the poor low IQ suckers by the MILLIONS! And of course ... those become rank n file Republicans.
There you have it! All tied up with a red ribbon!
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mark-stevens1 year ago
Carl Rove is back!! Saw a blog telling us that, according to the Bible, that the Anti Christ will be a smooth talking Muslim??
Ya see Obama is a smooth talking Muslim... he is the "anti Christ". Google "anti Christ"... that person was nuts and a neo con!!
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ppiittuu1 year ago
obama = politician. politician = panderer. politician = tell anyone anything to get elected. obama will tell anyone anything to get elected. QED.
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walden31 year ago
Republicans get it together -
Last week Obama was a turban, wearing, Islamofascist Muslim extremist with a Muslim middle-name.
This week he discriminates against Muslims.
Republicans, which is it? Is he a Muslim, does he hate Muslims or is he a self-hating bi-polar Muslim?
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libsRfunny1 year ago
I never called him an "Islamo-fascist Muslim." I just call him "Dumbo" for his many gaffes and penchant for out-right lying -- as he did over a number of years regarding his grandfather/great uncle's military service.
His handlers are reigning him in though.
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/06/18/...
Obama's campaign tightens control of image and access
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saintetienne1 year ago
"Is he a Muslim, does he hate Muslims or is he a self-hating bi-polar Muslim?"
All of the above. With a disjointed, broken-home upbringing like he's had, coupled with a nut for a preacher, a shrew for a wife and all of his shady associates, I don't think he knows which way is up these days.
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BB641 year ago
Actually, I'm not sure what his father's religion is. If his birth father is Muslim, in that faith, technically he's Muslim. Other religions it follows the mother's choice, technically. That's where I think people get confused.
As to the gaff with the Islamic ladies, that's a joke. The party of inclusion wants the Muslims to get out of camera view for a white guy. I can't imagine McCain's people doing that and getting a pass from most of the media.
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Beau78901 year ago
Drew Weston is absolutely correct. We've seen what ignoring smears has done for candidates in the past. Obama is right to be aggressive about debunking rumors.
There are two problems that I can see--neither as problematic as ignoring rumors entirely--with this tactic. The first (as Wolfie alluded to above), is that the site is obviously presented by the Obama campaign, which will make doubters suspecious, though of course the info on the site is accurate. (Adding a link on the debunking site to donate to the campaign probably doesn't help with credibility issues.)
The other problem is broader--it appears to me that so many Americans have become much more partisan than they used to be, not only suspecting anything put out by campaigns, but ignoring facts that contradict their pre-formed political opinions. I imagine those who might believe the rumors being propagated may never get to fightthesmears.com, and may never believe anything anyone else says that debunks those rumors.
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TOD3961 year ago
Are you implying that only those who will not follow up on Obama smears are the only one's?
What of the other side of the aisle? From my viewpoint, Liberals and Conservatives are both containing equal amounts of those who refuse to believe the truth.
Obama has many flaws, and they are trickling out. McCain has flaws also. Our job, as Americans, is to find out who among those two will do the least damage over the next 4 years. Obama supporters, for the most part, are incapable of accepting the fact that Obama is just the same old song, in a new skin, albeit a darker shade, it is still the same...
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Poulenc1 year ago
The sad truth is that, for posters like Wolfie, there'll always be something about Barack and Michelle O. to deride.
That is, their--the posters'--racism and/or misogyny, never mind their discomfort with a political position that would portion power more equitably, is bottomless, even as both masquerade as reasonable objection.
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RussianThreats1 year ago
And don't forget the fact that his initials are B.O.!!
Truly an embarassment to our wonderful county! For shame.
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Beau78901 year ago
Actually, that's not at all enough said.
Do you doubt what the site says about the smears against Obama and his wife? Or are you unwilling to believe anything that comes from those with whom you disagree?
FACTS are not spin. LIES and misrepresentations ARE spin.
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vidman041 year ago
Poulenc posted: "St. E.--so much HATRED! So much ANGER!
O.'s not trying to steal your first- (or second- or third- ) born, so why the incredible venom?
The kind of venom that makes you embrace any lie if you think it poisonous enough."
ROTFLMAO!!!! You libs really are nuts! You have the NERVE to post such a post after all the HATRED, ANGER, and LIES about President Bush are posted almost every day, on every story, even if the story isn't about Bush! Your hypocrisy is showing, and it's most unbecoming, but not surprising....
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Poulenc1 year ago
Ani, spare us, please.
Please!
Another case in which the sense of threat is wildly disproportionate to the reality, which is itself screwily interpreted, to say the least.
I mean: "...He lies, and discriminates against Muslim women, because Muslim men treat Muslim women like House pets."
When I read your posts, Ani, I envision two miserably unhappy crones trading scurrilous gossip over the back fence, each one egging the other on to even greater fabrication.
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Poulenc1 year ago
Ani, I'm happy you're happy.
Honest.
I don't know you personally. One can only "know" a poster from his or her posts.
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tanglang1 year ago
Meanwhile he comes out with the "baby Alex" video that is complete bullisht. Someone should tell both that beeyatch in the video as well as Senator Barack Obama that Senator McCain never once said we will be in Iraq for 100 years, never once inplied any such thing, damn sure did not imply that we would still be fighting100 years from now and that WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER ARMY!!! If this c rag's kid wants to join the damn Army he will whether she likes it or not.
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Candida1 year ago
tanglang: "did not imply that we would still be fighting100 years from now"
Fighting, no. Occupying, yes.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year ago
''Senator McCain never once said we will be in Iraq for 100 years, ''
'maybe 100'
''damn sure did not imply that we would still be fighting 100 years''
actually what he said is even more ridiculous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk
It will be fine with him as long as no americans are getting hurt or killed
uh huh
I'm sure the Iraqis will grow to love American occupation in a couple decades or maybe 8 or 9
keep waitin on them roses big Mac
And does this mean that McCain ISN'T 'fine' with American presence in Iraq lo these 5 years because Americans ARE getting hurt and killed?
Truth be told, I am not smart enough to even riff off how bizarre and goofy that clip is
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cushi1 year ago
L-I-A-R! That video is put out by MoveOn.org, not Barack Obama or his campaign.
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Goppy1 year ago
Who is this Laurel Michele person?
Does anybody know?
This member is makin me nervous. LM speaks rationally. This simply is not good for our Right Wing Jingo thing.
Laurel Michele, I dont spose theres any way I could convince you to come over to the Christian Conservative side?
You have to set aside some moral values.
Liek for instance ... we claim ... as part of our belief in Jesus ... that you can never have too much war and invadin other countries.
See? Thats pretty ding dang twisted. Yet we pull it off.
Then theres the whole thing bout spendin priorities. As Christians, youd think we would want to reach out to help the sick, the needy, the old and young poeple.
But, of course, youd be wrong.
We believe in tithin 40% of our nations wealth to fat cat military contracters!
See, these are the horrible, horrible hypocrisies that we have set for ourselfs by claimin the POLITICAL right, while ALSO claimin the rightness of our RELIGION!
It gets pretty ding dang messy.
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DeeWillyFree1 year ago
Goppy
You are quite an idiot. I can see that. I'm awfully happy you speak up as a Liberal Democrat. Every time someone of your limited experience and intellect goes to print for the LibDems, I feel encouraged as hell.
You begin by barfing out every stupid LibDem fake talking point there is and then shore up your position with false assumptions piled on erroneous logic. All this chicanery wrapped in a ******-poor mimic of HillBilly Humor.
The foundations of your arguments are made of pudding. Therefore every brick you add turns to something mushy, sloppy or gooey. Something rather, ummm ... goppy, you could say.
Go get 'em tiger!
Yuckingly easy,
DeeWilly
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Leemck021 year ago
Poulenc, it can be done, that is criticize, but not to say it is productive. I wondering if A, B or C will somehow touch on the issues. Someone wants to dip into your privacy without any process. Do you approve of that? Is it 'W"? If it is then it is not okay with some then can we criticize? Some are BSing about energy, leases in hand but no pumping, can we criticize? Wait, look like we have a trend. A bit of the "F" word going on. Please join us with your thinking cap.
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Leemck021 year ago
Chris-C, its just the smart thing to do, but isn't it sad that American politics has so many degenerates that it is necessary. Where is the national pride that everyone who is so upset about lapel pins, what Reverend Wright says or Michelle's comment when they tolerate a lying nation; one that a candidate has to do this to meet an actual group, such as the "Swift Boat" folk who are dedicated to lies and deceptions to cheat Americans from an informed choice. We Americans, are we so dumb that we can't hear for ourselves and understand? Why all the spin? We can't get news or information for hours of spin. For those who welcome the trash, then they are part of the problem.
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DeeWillyFree1 year ago
It appears there are two significant benefits for launching this website. Is a clever strategy, actually.
1) It employs the "Assumed Close" ... one of the oldest tricks in a Salesman's book. It begins with an 'assumption' and quickly delivers an action, based on that assumption. The assumption is, that poor Attacked Barak is being unfairly smeared every time someone mentions a negative. The fact is, the mention of a negative can be either true or untrue. It is simply something negative being mentioned. You will notice that every rumor (which of course can be either true or untrue) is entitled the "lie". This tactic, in and of itself speaks volumes about Obama's blatent disingenuosness.
2) The naked use of a seemingly "defensive" position to rake money from those he has freshly indoctrinated with the "Assumed Close" selling tactic. Get 'em while they're bathed in the moment.
Like I said . . . very clever. Dangerous and insidious as well.
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antibrainwasher1 year ago
What the freak do you call the swiftboaters? The liars who invented the war in Iraq? You call those murdering traitors dangerous and insidious? Rovian partisan doctrine breaking every law and actually firing justices who prosecute republican slime?
When dems combat the lies and distortions of political loyalist who hate america and americans except the 5% of the richest who own big oil and everything else, that dangerous and insidious.
Well, its dangerous and insideous to big oil the big zionist media and the religious right and the murders who lied us into the war.
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cushi1 year ago
Your post is a perfect example of the kind of "terrorist" tactics I described in an earlier post. You have done nothing but distort and cast doubt on the known purpose for the website for your own twisted purposes.
Hopefully, none but the already indoctrinated is buying what you're selling.
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Leemck021 year ago
DeeWillyFree, is that 'Swiftboat' smear operation out there pushing deceptions as we write? Will Obama get elected playing by the RNC play book or their surrogates, or anyone that is not a 'Con'? Are you mad, angry or upset that Obama learned from the stolen elections in the past? LoL, he really don't need you to be on his election committee, knowing the stuff about sales that you do. So you know why he is launching this wedsite as a 'clever' strategy, and it has nothing to do with being real? That post is a silly attempt at deception, just uninformed or an actual sample of someone deluded by the very reason Obama had to launch his site. Here is my sneaky attempt at mind control, a super-liminal sales suggestion: "Vote for change".
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cloud151 year ago
Obama is NOT a Muslim....plain and simple. You can change your religion at any point you wish, its not like blood.
But what I find a little hypocritical is the fact that the democrats are the party of inclusion, yet they bar certain people from being in the background on TV. We all know the ****** show that would be going on if McCain had done this. But hey, Obama did it so lets just ignore it and move on.
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Leemck021 year ago
Cloud15, is it's kinda like when people got voted in as Democrats and then flipped, afterward, in mass to do that Republican hijack of congress leading to the Contract on America, reclaiming America. You know, about some that were KKK and now making Conservativism the philosophy of inclusion. They did it; and as you noted, now that we got over the character counts defense, "so lets just ignore it and move on". Many posts here show what your religion is, is not an issue for government. We aren't hating on a religion here are we? If it's Muslims today then it will be liberation theology, Baptist or Catholicism tomorrow and the issues go unnoticed.
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rimbaud1 year ago
You friggin Christians may be able to change your religion every weekend, but being a Muslim is not a hobby. It pervades every moment of your daily life. You don't make a venture with out saying "may god be willing", nor accept success without saying "praise god".
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cushi1 year ago
The fact that he was vilified and branded on the basis of 30 second sound bytes extracted from more than 20 years of sermons, for the malicious purpose of imprinting the idea of a hateful preacher and congregation in the minds of gullible, fearful people, leaves a lot to be said about the perpetrators of such a colossal fraud! The sad part is that the real haters are the people who promote this perversion of the truth with great gusto, knowing full well that it is a damnable LIE!
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Leemck021 year ago
NickyA, remind me, where was the church you went to on the issues of liberation or injustice? I ask as you brought 'Integrity' into the discussion, I want to know your association with it. What does your pastor teach? Does he teach choice, choose heaven or hell; those or lessor issues? Obama has a fine record himself, being the sort of person to overcome in a society that has 80 percent of people like him with prison records. He comes to a point to lead and he has to be concerned with someone who can't get over what a preacher said, and fails to demonstrate capacity to get that in the right context. I am concerned you are not likely to have ever done anything to help make a more perfect union; being in a weak misguided church that empowers someone to think they are of stature to condemn others from saving their bacon, when that same group wouldn't help. Would you agree that is a "hoot"?
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antibrainwasher1 year ago
Wow, I just heard from a reliable source in the McCain camp that McCain is an atheist.
McCain is an atheist. McCain is an atheist. He lost his christianity in the hanoi hilton.
He's a super senior, senile senator from snow bird blue hair paradise, can't keep alkida and arizona straight, or sunni-shiite, or Iran or Saudi Arabia straight, and now he's an atheist. Well, since he's an atheist, I'll vote for him.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year ago
Maybe if it gets around that McCain is an atheist some of the folks who voted for Bush won't vote for him.
OK, we know how its done with Islam and radical Christian preachers, but how does one start a smear implying someone is an atheist?
psst, I heard McCain sleeps in on Sundays...
I heard he hangs around with some guy who read Nietzsche in college
oh yeah, I heard he laughs at priest and rabbi jokes
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HMMace1 year ago
OH YEAH---LIKE HE NEVER WENT TO THAT CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS...
OH YEAH--HE REALLY IS NOT GOOD FRIENDS WITH EX WEATHEMEN...PEOPLE WHO SET OFF BOMBS AT THE PENTAGON..HA
I JUST CAN NOT WAIT FOR THE OTHER SHOE TO DROP ON THE OBAMAS..
HE NEVER SAID THAT WEARING A FLAG LAPEL PIN MADE SOME PEOPLE AFFRAID OF HIM..
THAT HE NEVER SAID HE DID NOT APPROVE OF OUR NATIONAL ANTHYM...
ALL JUST SMEARS..HA
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Leemck021 year ago
HMMace, got a little worked up I see? Are you equally outraged on the current issues? Let's see, gas prices, the nation flooding or privacy? Now, do you want McCain, OH YEAH - a Bush Clone, who's position supports the Enron Loophole; far more serious than a lapel pin. WHY are we talking about songs and pins when our productivity is going down the tubes? Fuel prices are making food, travel and our way of life troublesome, and we are playing like this is a football team that we support thick or thin? 'W', Obama or McCain is not in this for your or my friendship. Hold each to do the job; for the right future, not the old one,its gone. Americans are at a point to choose someone that will save our economy and position in the world, and we wonder about what a preacher says? When do you say, OH YEAH, that was dumb? Start considering that now, and by election time you will know it time to vote for change . . . and not for pins, songs or silly propaganda innuendo.
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TrueProgressive1 year ago
Leemck, very well put. I don't give a rat's a** whether Obama ever puts his hand over his heart or wears a flag lapel. These are issues the lunatic right drums up because both they have nothing of substance to say about our present condition, and if the vast majority of brain-dead Americans ever recovered enough of their faculties to "get" just how totally Bush and the American right has screwed them and this nation, there'd be revolution in the streets, and lowlifes like Alphanoxious and this idiot above, HMMace, would be run out of town tarred and feathered. After eight years of the little monkey brained degenerate defecating all over the very essence of what it means to be American, it does distress me that what people focus upon are snot ball issues like flag lapels and pledges of alligence.
And Mace, you really shouldn't be so eager to show the world you're a third grade dropout.
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Leemck021 year ago
TruePressive, I feel your outrage and share it. OH YEAH, I want to know about how to stop this screw job.
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rimbaud1 year ago
Fat Muslims eat a big breakfast, skip lunch, and then have a big dinner. They are supposed to experience hunger during the day and be motivated to help the poor with the money they save.
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blinkers1 year ago
Nice one, Tess. (Pitiful that your useful first-hand account STILL managed to score a neg from Nixie, just pitiful).
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