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    TweekerchickQC1 year, 6 months ago

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    Wow, 6 years?! That's a long time.

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      UnusualSuspect1 year, 6 months ago

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      Indeed...a long time to be detained for being labeled an "enemy combatant" when there's been no hard proof...

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        TweekerchickQC1 year, 6 months ago

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        That's what I'm saying.

        I mean six years is a long time to be locked anywhere, but without hard proof?!

        That would hurt. I mean despite getting the free and clear now, that still doesn't give him his 6 years back.

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          Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago

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          And how does one get the label of being an enemy combatant. Probably by having a weapon and fighting our troops. Now it looks like we will have to just shoot them so a stupid court will not but them back under arms against us.

          For the first time in our history prisoners of war in a foreign country are being given the rights of citizens living here. What a stupid idea. The courts are going to have our soldiers Mirandize the captured enemy? What next.

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            Candida1 year, 6 months ago

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            Endoscopy: "And how does one get the label of being an enemy combatant. Probably by having a weapon and fighting our troops."

            Yes, I guess logic would dictate that. The problem with "enemy combatant" is that it is, as far as I know, a made up term without clear definition. Perhaps the administration should have stuck to terms that do have definitions and that others understand too.

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            "For the first time in our history prisoners of war in a foreign country are being given the rights of citizens living here."

            We've been around that mulberry bush a few times already. No, they are not prisoners of war. The administration fought tooth and nail to prevent that term being applied to them because it would have given them some protection. No, they are not being given the rights of citizens; simply their basic human rights are not being taken away.

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              BB641 year, 6 months ago

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              Candida, in the past if say in WW2, if you had military training and were working with covert operations, you were classified as a spy upon capture. Spies who wouldn't turn or had no "value" were often executed after a short military trial. At least in the USA & UK. In Germany, USSR, Japan and Italy, there was no time for a trial.

              As a spy no quarter is offered, none expected. Mr. Carter changed that by supporting the UN, PLO support bill giving rights to non-uniformed combatants commonly referred to as terrorists. Had he not signed that resolution giving more rights to terrorists then the folks fighting them, we might have a different world. Knowing it would be death supporting the terrorists, I suspect there would be less support.

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                Candida1 year, 6 months ago

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                Do you think people who are willing to blow up themselves would be deterred by a potential death sentence?

                You are talking about spies. Where and how did this guy spy and on whom? Did he spy on the US in Pakistan? It is clear from the article that there is absolutely no evidence against him, except that he is a Chinese separatist and that his organization is loosely connected to al Quaeda. How is that the business of the US?

                As far as signing and especially keeping international treaties goes, the US has a less than stellar performance in that area.

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                  BB641 year, 6 months ago

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                  1) Not at all. But your supporters who offer shelter, protection and other information certainly do. Not that I say you charge everyone in a home, but that is an option. How many terrorist supporters will act if they know they'll get the needle, mom will end up in federal prison forever and their children might end up in a Christian fundamentalist orphanage. Okay, I'm stretching that a bit. But you go after the support structures too.

                  2)Not James Bond spies. These are like the 9-11 terrorists. Not in it for the money, just the 5th column stuff. Bombs, assignations, kidnapping and general terror.

                  As to treaties, if we didn't honor or have concern with that resolution, the men in Gitmo would already be dead.

                  On other treaties, give me a break, we're better than most. China, Russia and the rest haven't followed many treaties ever.

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              BB641 year, 6 months ago

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              From my past career, if I was supposed to read the Miranda rights to them, I suspect more prisoners will die while trying to escape... Assuming there are prisoners to escape.

              History has shown that when released, if they are terrorists, they simply rejoin the war of terror.

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                Candida1 year, 6 months ago

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                BB64: "History has shown that when released, if they are terrorists, they simply rejoin the war of terror."

                You say "if they are terrorist," but how do you know that they are terrorists without establishing it first?

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                  BB641 year, 6 months ago

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                  I'm not sure. What I do know is one of the guys released returned to Iraq and blew himself and other up in a terrorist attack. Getting back to my original idea here, I suspect we will see a huge drop in the prisoners captured or surrendering.

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            jordan111 year, 6 months ago

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            Working for ypur green stamps?

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