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Posted By hyperbola 1 year, 6 months ago in NewsWe do not need to replicate exactly South African apartheid within discriminatory practices in civil rights in Israel to call Israel an apartheid state. The amendment to the Citizenship Law is exactly such a practice - it is best we not try to evade the truth: Its existence in our law books turns Israel into an apartheid state.
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Edmar141 year, 6 months ago
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First of all, it can't be unconstitutional because Israel doesn't have a constitution. Secondly, lets take a look at Moslem countries- Women in many are not allowed to drive, are not allowed the same education as men and are forced to cover themselves in such a way that men are not forced to do. Non Muslim citizens in most Muslim countries are second class citizens without the same rights as their Muslim fellow citizens. In Saudi Arabia, non Muslims aren't even allowed in the City of Mecca. You just don't get more apartheid than these examples of real life in the Muslim world. All of the Muslims pick on Israel while practicing apartheid everyday with their own citizens. Shame on them and shame on you Hypoberla for being a propagandist and a bigot.
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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Here is Edmar with the murderer argument again. Goes like this:
If once upon a time, somewhere, there was a murderer, then I am entitled to kill anyone I choose for my own pleasure and/or profit.
Telling that zionists always refuse to face up to their crimes against humanity and try to blame others.
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AnteUp1 year, 6 months ago
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Edmar14 ~
Get a grip! In your fervor to explain away and excuse
ANYTHING Israeli you ignore the fact that NO ONE - and
that even includes the USA - runs around calling those
other nations you list great Democracies. Now, do they?
Why can't you be objective - ever? What's so great about
denial??
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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Let us see, what is "Apartheid":
>> The law stipulates that the interior minister does not have the authority to approve residence in Israel for a resident of Judea and Samaria (unless, of course, they are Jews - that is, settlers).
I do not recall that the interior minister or anyone else in Britain or the US, for example, had the right to approve residence in their respective countries for residents of Germany, Japan or their allies during WWII.
Israel and the Palestinians are AT WAR and as long as this situation will continue neither Israel should or will allow Palestinian Arabs to settle in ISrael nor should we expect the Palestinians to allow Israeli Jews to settle in Gaza or the West Bank.
It is comical how some pro-Palestinian advocates find something to blame Israel for but argue that the Arabs can do much worse. In this case, they do not blame the Arabs for "apartheid" against Jewish settlers, do they?
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AnteUp1 year, 6 months ago
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hyperbola ~
Thanks for the link from Haaretz - I've been having
trouble bringing up anything but the front page online.
My first stop in the morning (Haaretz) has been ineffectual
for months. I can't bring up the scrolling capability!
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AnteUp1 year, 6 months ago
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Thinker22 ~
Today - in this post - you say:
"nor should we expect the Palestinians to allow Israeli Jews to settle in Gaza or the West Bank."
Really? When's the last time you stuck up for the rights of
Palestinians in the West Bank? When's the last time you
bemoaned the theft of land and structures from their
rightful Palestinian owner's possesion in the West Bank?
I do not remember the activities of the settlers in the
West Bank bothering you one little bit - at any time.
If I follow the thought that you posted today to it's logical conclusion - if Palestinians decide NOT
to allow the settlers to establish settlements in the West Bank - does that mean that they have a right to FIGHT
for what belongs to them?
If they did? Would that be a terrorist act, or could that
be viewed as protecting their rights to their property?
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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> When's the last time you stuck up for the rights of Palestinians in the West Bank?
The LAST time? Today.
> When's the last time you bemoaned the theft of land and structures from their rightful Palestinian owner's possesion in the West Bank?
Never. The Palestinian Arabs are NOT the exclusive "rightful" owners of all the land in the West Bank or the rest of Palestine. Land can only be PRIVATELY owned or belong to a STATE. Claiming that one ethnicity is the "rightful owner" of the lands of a certain geographical region and that people of other ethnicities who dare to live there are "thieves" is RACISM, pure and simple. I'm not a racist.
> ...does that mean that they have a right to FIGHT for what belongs to them?
Definitely YES. A good way to do it is to FIGHT for what belongs to them in court by submitting the deeds PROVING that they're the rightful owners.
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Thinker221 year, 6 months ago
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> Would that be a terrorist act, or could that be viewed as protecting their rights to their property?
Violence and deliberate murder of innocent people is and will be seen as terrorism. "Protecting their rights to their property" can and should be done in court.
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