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jovial1 year, 6 months ago
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He's going by the playbook. Politics to your base during the primary. Then to the center during the campaign. A lot of the people that voted, however, saw him as a candidate that stood out among the rest. Now it's getting blurry. Was tshis a good move on Obama's part?
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Mdiar1 year, 6 months ago
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jovial1 year, 6 months ago
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My thoughts are there. I don't see any Republicans changing their attitudes. I don't see many centrists budging either. What's at stake here is his base. He can lose more of his base than he will gain. I hope he realizes this before he gets to far away from his base.
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jordan111 year, 6 months ago
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Beau78901 year, 6 months ago
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That's what I was going to say, jordan.
Either Obama or McCain will be the next president, even though some would like to see a third-party candidate win.
Obama is certainly not moving to the right of McCain. And though he has expressed some relatively conservative opinions on issues that are not top priority, I don't see him as a conservative at heart.
Obama said he'd try to build consensus and stop divisiveness in politics. The only way to do that is to make some compromises.
My mom met Sen. Everett Dirksen from Illinois in the mid-'60s. He was a Republican who strongly supported Civil Rights, and she asked him why he ever compromised with opponents. Dirksen told my mom she should run for office and see how far she gets and how much she could accomplish without ever making compromises.
The key is to fight hard for the battles you think you must win, hopefully without giving away the rest of the store. (Sen. Dirksen did a great job of that, by the way.)
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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If you've read his books or interviews from before the campaign, this is not a surprise. Obama has always said the way to overcome the partisanship is to take 5 issues to the table, fight for the most important ones and give the other side their wishes on issues you determine to be less important as well. Compromise is the tool of any real statesman after all. Personally I think there is a constitutional issue with government funding "faith based" organizations. I am surprised he does not see it the same way. However he himself is a religous man and may see this in a different colored light. Someone should legally challenge the whole idea though.
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Beau78901 year, 6 months ago
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I agree that giving government money to faith-based organizations violates the Constitution. I think there's a difference in the way Obama speaks of it and the way Bush has--that is, funding them to do the same kind of charitable work secular organizations would do, as opposed to giving them money and setting up government programs to teach faith, (for instance, for abstinence-only sex education), but it still violates the first amendment. We'll see how it plays out if he's elected.
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Spadecaller1 year, 6 months ago
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I don't participate in polls because the media uses them to manipulate the voters. It has become an obsessive form of micromanagement and it often does more to distort the truth than to reveal anything more than a transient snapshot of some questionable reality. More often than not, the questions asked in polls are slanted in themselves; often the options, as n2n, just stated are omitted from the available choices. Consequently, the results are usually skewed.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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I am not flippin' out yet. I like the guy, I've been cutting him the occasional check, I plan on continuing to support him at this point. I have said all along that I don't expect miracles or perfection from any politician, nor do I expect to agree with every decision. I know he is an intelligent man and his team of young campaign managers have proven themselves worthy so far. He has not changed his position on the war in any sense despite spin claiming so. I disagree with the FISA vote but he knows as well as you and I that he can not afford to lose the enthusiasm of his young supporters who frankly made the difference and got him this far. There is more information needed to get a grip on the equation right now.
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Poulenc1 year, 6 months ago
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Realpolitik on O.'s part, undoubtedly. Yet increasingly...depressing: just that.
When a Times editorial chides him for his move centerwards--as it did today--then you know there's trouble in paradise, never mind Arianna's recent rather sharp knuckle-raps.
Still, is one going to throw up one's hands and vote for McCain?
Not this one. I'll cut O. some slack...and a check.
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Raiderwall1 year, 6 months ago
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Ralph Nader for President.
Nader has already accomplished many things politicians only talk about.
Obama is triangulating, saying anything to get elected. I can see a move to the middle, but the telecom bill and wavering on Iraq undermine the cornerstones of his candidacy. OBama is showing his true stripes here, not that he's from the left or the right, but he's just another pandering politician. He's out Clintoned the Clintons.
Change is just another name for nothing left to lose.
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