Former Sen. Jesse Helms Dies At 86 »
Posted By TechnologyExpert 1 year ago in NewsJesse Helms, the five-term Republican Senator from North Carolina, has died, CBS News has confirmed. He was 86.
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HanymanComment removed: User banned.83 Replies
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Poulenc1 year ago
A demagogue, a force of reaction, virulent homophobe who fought tooth-and-nail against Federal aid for AIDS research...
....racist par excellence, of course (recall his campaign ad launched during his 1990 reelection bid against black opponent Harvey Grant, in which white hands belonging to a job-seeker crumpled a rejection slip as the voice-over explained that the position had gone to an "unqualified member of a minority")....
One almost hopes that hell exists just so Mr. Helms can be housed there--for a very, very long time....
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splitrch1 year ago
If Jesse Helms knew of this, supported it or just turned a blind eye, he should roast in hell.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06202008/prof...
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vor1 year ago
I knew Jesse growing up. He sometimes attended our church and his daughter taught my sister's 1st grade class. Every night, ironically before Walter Cronkite came on, we would see Jesse's editorial on WRAL in Raleigh. I knew then that I felt a certain distaste for his views. He was arrogant and condescending. Not physical imposing but more like a Southern Baptist fire and brimstone preacher shouting out his condemnation. A bully without the brawn. Hard to relate that to the quiet little man who would sometimes bring us candy at school.
But I knew, even back then, that these would not become my views. He would rant and rave in favor of Nixon and the war and it all seemed quite backward to me. He was no compromise, like Bush and Cheney with his black/white view of the world. And he sure didn't like the black. I remember him as the first political fear monger I recall.
I wont overly condemn him today. I don't mess with the dead (don't like the karmic implications).
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UnusualSuspect1 year ago
Unlike VOR, I didn't know Jesse Helms. I grew up hearing about him; on TV, on radio, and in print.
The one thing I remember most about him was his seemly strong intolerance of blacks and other minorities.
Then I discovered this 20 mins. ago, taken from Wikipedia, regarding Helms support of a man running for office:
" 'In 1950, Helms became an unofficial researcher for United States Senate candidate Willis Smith. Smith was a conservative Democratic lawyer and former president of the American Bar Association. While working on the primary campaign against Frank Porter Graham, Helms helped create an ad that read, "White people, wake up before it is too late. Do you want Negroes working beside you, your wife and your daughters, in your mills and factories? Frank Graham favors mingling of the races.' "
How much of the ad did he create? We don't know, but that's the man I will remember...one who instilled fear, only because others around him had a different color skin.
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Poulenc1 year ago
You feel, libs, that one should be...more equivocal about the character and career of Helms?
You feel that people should be more TEMPERATE in their assessment of the man?
Mention his "good" points. Not neglect to note his "virtues?"
So much so that you neg comments of those who refuse to follow the kind of evenhandedness of which you yourself set such a famous example?
How bad does a person have to be before you come off your partisan perch and agree to see clearly for the sake of truth?
Or is scoring points against the dreaded opposition ALWAYS more important to you than being moral and...CLEAR?
It's YOU, libs, who are consumed by hate.
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CaptainLucid1 year ago
Ok, but while we are talking about some of the good points I heard Adolf Hitler was a pretty good artist. Could Helms paint?
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jordan111 year ago
It's YOU, libs, who are consumed by hate.>>>>>>
If you wish to call speaking the truth "hate", so be it. I despised the man, not because I wanted to, but because HE left me no choice.
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slate1 year ago
You feel, libs, that one should be...more equivocal about the character and career of Helms?
You feel that people should be more TEMPERATE in their assessment of the man?
Mention his "good" points. Not neglect to note his "virtues?"
What would be wrong with just saying that you didn't agree with the way the man lived his life and or his politics; but restrain yourself from saying he deserves to burn in DA EVALASTIN Lakes of Hell?
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mompro1 year ago
All we lost was a man that felt Civil Rights existed for him only. He obviously never really read any of it.
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mesodude1 year ago
Just more proof that the GOP has clearly given up on reaching out to black America.
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miklkit1 year ago
Your republicon fear and smear campaign has been going full steam for months. Keep grasping at straws.
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mesodude1 year ago
"So I guess from what we see from the liberals and their comments about fromer Senator Helms,their icons are now fair game?"
--"Now"? LMAO...Um, yeah, since everyone knows that heretofore, cons have exercised restraint all these years. Open the floodgates. Let us know how you really feel, bill. For instance, I always wondered what cons really thought of the Kennedys, the Clintons, Barney Frank and Gerry Studds. No more keeping your feelings close to the vest, bill. Let us have it. ;-)
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cushi1 year ago
If Helms was your idea of an icon, no wonder your party is self-destructing and going to hell in a handbasket! What a loser!! You guys sure know how to pick 'em!
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Poulenc1 year ago
To make myself perfectly clear, I posted the Scott Stanzel quote not in support of the comment, but rather to further expose the nature of the current administration
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Mdiar1 year ago
I found his politics to be distasteful. Still, he would stick to his principles, as much as I disliked them. Maybe Washington could use more people who aren't afraid to inconvenience their own party for principles, as much as I may not agree with them. Overall, I must say, I would have never voted for him. I did not even truly respect him. But I think that Washington needs more people who will try to do what they say and won't mince words.
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nostalgia1 year ago
Mdiar
You are totally correct
Whether I agree or disagree with any particular politician, I respect them if they have a set of principles that guide them on all of their policy positions
Unfortunately there are far too many in politics today who will say whatever it takes to get elected and seem to have no guiding principles
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smeejay1 year ago
the only good thing that i can say about this man has already been said. he's dead. good.
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mesodude1 year ago
"b interesting to see what all you "caring classy libs" have to say when Sen Robert Byrd kicks the bucket."
--You remind me how cons screech that they are oppressed and outraged by "racism" when what they really mean is that they are p'od because of a perceived double standard. They are "victimized" by Obama's pastor but only because they think Don Imus got a raw deal. Sad
Why would you care? Really. What's it to you? Was Helms your hero or someone you looked up to? Why do cons believe their individual moral code should be shaped by those with whom they disagree? Do have any idea how sick you sound? Why not treat people the way you know in your heart is the right way rather always plotting to retailiate based on your perception that someone else is getting away with something? If you're not being hurt, why not do what *you* know is the right thing to do?
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lum-chate1 year ago
You all remind me of a disk jokey in Florida who ask all Florida residents to not use their electrical appliances on the day they electrocuted Bundy so he could be deep fried. Venomous!
Helms was a product of his roots, was elected many times by his peers & died on the same day that two other noted Americans died Jefferson and Adams. Though not a fan of Helms he'll be lamented more than anyone shredding him here.
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mesodude1 year ago
"Though not a fan of Helms he'll be lamented more than anyone shredding him here."
--All this proves is that you probably thought Hitler was a swell guy, too. ;-(
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vidman041 year ago
Not at all surprised by all the hateful posts coming from the left...they have no souls...just a black empty hole inside...I just hope someone somewhere finds a kind word to say about them when they die, but I kinda doubt it....
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cushi1 year ago
No milk of human kindness running through those acid veins of yours either, hypocrite.
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lum-chate1 year ago
When you talk about pieces of human debris why not start with
Robert Mugabe who was so wrongfully characterized, by the Carter administration and probably one of your favorites Andrew Young;
Ambassador Young could barely contain his brimming admiration for the newest "liberator" of Africa's oppressed: "I find that I am fascinated by his intelligence, by his dedication. The only thing that frustrates me about Robert Mugabe is that he is so damned incorruptible."
More than 90% of the looney left on propeller would have given Young a positive if the interview was posted on this blog.
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vidman041 year ago
"vidman - it's the people who built their careers on hate, as did Helms who have no souls, nor humanity - because a piece of human debris dies I do not have to mourn them, but rather rejoice in one less hater to walk the earth"
So you have to become a hater also? I'm from N.C., but I never voted for him, never agreed with most of his positions, but that doesn't mean I have to speak ill of him when he is dead, doesn't mean I must become like him, does it?
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lum-chate1 year ago
Helms was the guy who helped Reagan to his first primary victory against Ford after a few primary losses, good point!
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ZippySpincycle1 year ago
And let's not forget this nugget of insight from that Great American, Jesse Helms:
"To rob the Negro of his reputation of thinking through a problem in his own fashion is about the same as trying to pretend that he doesn't have a natural instinct for rhythm and for singing and dancing." -- Helms responding in 1956 to criticism that a fictional black character in his newspaper column was offensive. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5glajfJbQP2Wm...
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Natureboy1 year ago
Hm. Based on the popular iconography, Da Lord was not at all butch, ran around in a dress-lookin' thing, with twelve other guys. Never married, talked a lot about brotherly love.
What are the odds he was straight?
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Natureboy1 year ago
Everybody dies, folks. Good and bad, innocent and rat-bastards, serial-killers and saints.
The big question, maybe the only question, is whether you and I are living in such a fashion that our passing will be mourned by many.
Remember, we do not choose the time of our passing, and an opportunity we miss is one we may never get back.
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Poulenc1 year ago
It might be a wise idea, vid, if you ditched the sentimental pieties about not talking ill of the dead--who, after all, are past caring about what you or anyone else thinks of them, past any need to defend themselves--and got real about who Helms WAS and the evil, actual evil, he did.
Are you so blinded by partisanship that it's impossible for you to understand that the only fitting--the only MORAL--response to a life such as Helms led, whether he be alive or dead, is denigration?
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