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injest1 year, 4 months ago
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The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced
By MATTHEW HICKLEY
Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007
One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.
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lfergie8121 year, 4 months ago
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injest1 year, 4 months ago
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jimdoze
"Active sonar is worse than useless, when not in attack mode, because its source can be traced"
Uhm surface ships, Carrier Battle groups are not trying to hide.
Submarines on the other hand, are trying to hide, that's why their under the water, that's why making them ultra quiet is the goal.
That why surface ships need to use "Active Sonar" to locate them.
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bigurn1 year, 4 months ago
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I agree that China is an economic threat. Read "China 2030", an astounding read. Their policies suggest that their economic growth will be supported, in part, by their military strength.
And.... THEY DON'T CARE. They will be successful, no matter how long or what they have to do. The Chinese see time in very long viewpoints, because their history is thousands of years long. They are a patient people, and are quite happy to peck away at their goals a little at a time.
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hyperbola1 year, 4 months ago
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Well given that the US has been using its military in support of business imperialism for over a century now, we are hardly in a position to complain. When and if we start closing down our 700 foreign military bases and stop threatening the whole world, then we might have reason to object to China, which so far has committed far fewer crimes than the US.
Blowback
The Costs and Consequences of American Empire
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blowback_CJoh...
Abolish the CIA!
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/1984/chalmers_j...
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hyperbola1 year, 4 months ago
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Yes, you are correct. That is why there are so many parts of the US with strong Spanish heritage that outdates the US. None the less, our imperialists really got the bit between their teeth on a world scale with the Spanish-American war. I wonder how many Americans know that in the last 100 years we have invaded Cuba five times or that we had to ask Brazil to help rescue our troops when the Mexicans were throwing them out just before WWI?
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