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Gransater1 year, 5 months ago
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You're right. This really is about two separate issues.
1 - Are we harming cetatians, by using assorted technology, both in civilian and defense settings. So far the observed results would seem to indicate harm is being done. Acording to one of the articles, if they can "track a whale for 43 days in the open ocean", on a passive system, why isn't that enough in tracking capability? Put a SOSUS system strategecaly located in the Pacific and Indian oceans, and we ought to be able to do all tracking we need.
2 - The second issue is really about using the label of Homeland Security, to override established legal court procedures. It seems everytime this admin wants something, out comes the treat of Homeland Security. I think Goebels would have been extreemly proud of this admin in how it uses and emphasises the external/internal treat to demolish what our forefathers created, after long and careful thought.
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mrbs1 year, 5 months ago
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why isn't that enough in tracking capability?
because super quiet subs would be able to get around them sounding like a whale.also in noisy water ..say a fleet formation..one could easily sneak up hidden by all the other screws in the water.
external/internal treat to demolish what our forefathers created
what our for fathers created was destroyed long ago.to prove the point you were never taught that the only purpose of the goverment is to deal with internal and external threats.
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Gransater1 year, 5 months ago
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If these subs are as quiet as whales, how do we then diferentiate one from another? Do we go after each and every target untill the acustic solution tells us what it is? Do we destroy cetatians in order to accomplish that? Are we that insecure about ourselves?
As to sneaking up in a fleet formation. Its not a question of sending out an acustic signal, we have enough power for that allready, its a question of reading the return, ie sensitive enough hydrophones to pick up the sound, and, a computer program to filter out "friendly" noise. This is where a lot of attention needs to be focused, not in the increase of noise.
External/internal treats. What our forefathers created is in the PROCESS of being destroyed. There is fortunately plenty still left over. Are you suggesting that because we are and have been gutting it, there is nothing to stop us from interely shredding it?
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mrbs1 year, 5 months ago
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yes it is a question of sending out a single when you have seconds to fire a torpedo.all that filtering takes time and in war a half a second delay one time can make the difference in not only a battle but whos flag is flying over head.personally i like ours instead of the furors or that of china.
as for shredding it already has ,the senate was to be appointed by the governors not a popular vote.in order to vote you had to be a land owner.the changes to these are what will lead to the destruction.
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Gransater1 year, 5 months ago
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All that filtering is done in real time, measured in miliseconds. Before you go of firing weapons you still have to be certain you are shooting at a valid target. Going of halfcocked leads to problems that often can't be repaired. Also, we are talking about peacetime routine here, not in a hostile envinronment during war. There are protocols to follow in peace time, and another vessel is not fired upon in open waters, unless they display hostile intent. That would be the time when seconds counts, not before, unless you are talking about being a bully and ignoring all kinds of treaties and international agreements.
If I read you correctly, since we have been shredding our country's foundation, its rules and moral/legal standards for some time, why bother trying to reverse the trend. Its a done deal anyway. Is that what you are saying? If so, don't you think we ought to try and reverse that trend, or are you willing to create a new country, possibly for the worse?
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mrbs1 year, 5 months ago
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if they dont use them in peace time they wont know how to use the effectively during war time.we are talking about training the military for its only reason of existence and thats to kill people and break things.an active ping gives exact location down to the inch and the shape size direction of travel and so much info you need to target then a passive system.a passive system is a public gps system that gets its info from 3 birds.. gets you to within 10 or 20 feet ..active is the military grade that gets it info from 5 or 6 or more.gets you down to the inch.now these men and women need to train with active so that when we are ALLREADY on a war footing they need to know how to work it blindfolded and one handed and know what to do with the information befor it comes out.
as to the second part it may be time
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