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    gamahuche1 year, 5 months ago

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    On Wednesday night, a federal judge ruled that Google must turn over YouTube user activity--videos watched, IP addresses, usernames--to legal foe Viacom as part of a long-running copyright infringement case. But the source told CNET News.com that a heavy protective order is in place that will keep individuals' personal information cloaked.

    The court's protective order stipulates that data turned over to Viacom by Google must be used for the sole purpose of proving Viacom's claim against Google that YouTube is a hotbed of pirated video content, the sources said. Viacom will not have direct access to the YouTube user data, the source said. Access is restricted to outside counsel and experts.

    Viacom, therefore, is forbidden from targeting individual users in the manner of the RIAA's lawsuits against individuals found to be downloading illegal music.

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      gamahuche1 year, 5 months ago

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      A silver lining to the dark cloud of invasion of privacy?

      Lets hope so.

      The sceptic in me is not convinced, however.

      Once that information has been collated and duplicated it seems unlikely that it will ever be thrown away - and it can obviously be copied by anyone who has access to it.

      It seems highly probable that either officially by the government or unofficially by some private party it will be retained and at some point in the future it will be improperly utilised or shared.

      I notice that the article doesn't even discuss its future destruction.

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        splitrch1 year, 5 months ago

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        What is piracy exactly? If someone sends me a You Tube video and I watch it am I guilty of "piracy"? If it's a song from an old album is that piracy? What if it's an old music video of the same song? Maybe that's not piracy? What are they going to do - shut down You Tube or Google or companies like that? Probably it's the corporate piranhas beginning to feed on each other.

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          mrbs1 year, 5 months ago

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          piracy is the POSTING of copyrighted materials that you do not have permission to do so

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            Candida1 year, 5 months ago

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            I understand the posting part, but why do they need any information on the people who watch it? As someone who watches a youtube video, how would I know whether it's pirated material? If all they want to prove is that copyrighted material is watched more than user generated material, then all they need is the number of times each has been watched. If they want to prove that there is a lot of copyrighted material on youtube, then all they need is the content. What use is the information on who watches them?

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              AnteUp1 year, 5 months ago

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              Candida ~

              Well put - that's what I was wondering too.

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                mrbs1 year, 5 months ago

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                everything you do on every web site is tracked in one form or another

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                Mutainia1 year, 5 months ago

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                Doesn't YouTube pull videos that are copyrighted anyway? I posted a video of Chris Farley from SNL, and, although it was really popular, it was yanked BY YouTube, and, this was a few months ago.

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                Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago

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                Wrong. Piracy is getting copyrighted music, videos, or movies that you did not pay for. It is legal to give music etc. to someone if you paid for it and do not retain the item for yourself. Technically if someone gives you something like that it is your responsibility to insure that it is not pirated. Technically you are not allowed to rip the songs from a CD and put them on another CD as well as play them on your computer or ipod. Also if you obtain legally something for use on your computer and put it in your ipod that is piracy unless you obtain it from a site that gives you permission to have it several places. Apple is good about that.

                In this case youtube is on the receiving end and that allows a lot of people to download what is on their site. If it is copyrighted material they are liable.

                That is the legal side and I think it sucks.

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                  Mutainia1 year, 5 months ago

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                  IF anyone is going to be guilty here, it will be YouTube, for THAT is the place where videos are stored. Users just accesss them like one would access Wiki. I sure hope and pray that they don't shut down YouTube. It's a free and fantastic learning tool. I've learned so much about Islam through it, for ONE thing. AND, got to meet a lot of great people on it like "investigateislam".

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              obiefrommuskogee1 year, 5 months ago

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              That data would be worth a lot sold. How can they control a sale of the data. They can't.

              Just in time for the election...

              No reason to trust it will be used with the strict limitations mentioned. Once the data is out there, it's out there.

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