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Mutainia1 year, 4 months ago
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One thing I learned about this, is that, the worst thing you can do to a Islamic terrorist, is to put underwear over his head and take a picture of it. Sounds like they'd prefer death than have underwear over their head and photographed. I'm thinking that, instead of water-boarding, why not threaten to put them naked in a pyramid, or, put underwear over their head and take a picture. I KNOW his face can't be seen, but, hey, it MIGHT get him telling where a bomb is.
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bubba21 year, 4 months ago
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Both of you just never have gotten it ...
The VAST majority of the people in Abu Graib and Gitmo have NEVER been charged with ANYTHING because NO one has any EVIDENCE that they ever did anything wrong, let alone were involved in any "terrorist" activity!
You also apparently are totally ignorant regarding torture, because it is WRONG - period. It does NOT matter who does it. Especially because our country is SUPPOSED to be a democracy and a country that UPHOLDS the equal rights of others, we only DEMEAN ourselves by lowing our standards to those of our enemies.
You both should have applied for jobs at those facilities - I'm sure that the administration would have hired you in a heartbeat considering your attitudes.
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Mutainia1 year, 4 months ago
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Hey, bubba. IF there is strong reason to suspect that ONE of these guys knows where a bomb is to, like, oh, strap on to a retarded women to go off in an Iraqi PET store, killing innocent Shiite children in the process, I say, "Surfs UP!!!"
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Mutainia1 year, 4 months ago
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IF torture doesn't keep us finding out where a bomb is to keep New York from going up, then, I agree, don't torture. Personally, I don't do well with pain. I don't think it would take much to get ME spilling the beans on something. Good thing I'm not working for Mr. Al Qaeda. I'd probably say SCREW Quran 3:28 and 16:106! I mean, NO "holy Islamic lying" (al-taqqiya) on MY part!!! I'm telling the CIA where that friggen BOMB is!
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Sabretooth1 year, 4 months ago
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"I don't think it would take much to get ME spilling the beans on something. Good thing I'm not working for Mr. Al Qaeda."
I am sorry but i do not believe you are innocent so we are going to need to keep torturing you. I am quite confident that the information i got on your terrorist activity from the guy whose parking spot you stole is accurate. It is just a matter of time before you tell me what i want to hear. Sorry also for the fact i will not be able to let you go since now you are most definitely an enemy of my people.
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jordan111 year, 4 months ago
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Excuse me, but I just can't let this comment go: "the worst thing you can do to a Islamic terrorist, is to put underwear over his head and take a picture of it."
The Iraqi people were not "Islamic terrorists." What on earth is wrong with you that you can't get it through your head! Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. The people treated so horribly were NOT 'terrorists!' They weren't charged with anything. My gawd, what does it take for people like you to wake the hell up???????
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ConquerorWyrm1 year, 4 months ago
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"CIA agents dressed as Sunnis DRESSED as Shiites"
Not sure about CIA but there were some British SAS boys busted doing just that...not to mention the tens of thousands of steroid junkie private contractors operating totally unregulated...and if 'black flag' operations didn't exist, why would we have a term for them.
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Sabretooth1 year, 4 months ago
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"Who are those who set off bombs on the side of the road and blow up Iraqi Shiite children in pet stores?"
My God, please don't tell me someone as misinformed as you is allowed to vote? I think you need to start reading something other then American propaganda channels.
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Mutainia1 year, 4 months ago
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In a cowardly way, I did, HURTing my credibility in the process. Had I followed THOU shalt NOT Lie, (like the BIBLE commands), instead of something more in line with the Qu'ran (surahs 3:28 and 16:106)... I would have been a GREATER and more NOBLE man in MY estimation, atleast. But, tain't no time machine, so, I now have to live with my folly and hope for faulty memories.
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bubba21 year, 4 months ago
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MOST of those bombers are IRAQIs. They are waging a CIVIL WAR and have been for the last 3 years.
We are the occupiers and they want the occupiers OUT!
BEFORE we invaded Iraq, there were not street-side suicide bombs going off every day, and there was no sectarian violence.
When the Bush administration capture Saddam and then let his ENTIRE army go, it all went downhill from there and the administration had NO plan and did NOTHING to stop the spiral into chaos and sectarian violence.
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Mutainia1 year, 4 months ago
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Personally, I'm surprised that things aren't much worse. I mean, not ONLY do they believe in a book, the Qu'ran, that alienates them from those who DON'T do five times a day of butt in the air, but, the first Bush left them in the lurch to die at the hands of Saddam's helicopter gunships when they could have easilly been shot down by our air-force. But, the first Bush just HAD to follow the orders of Saudi Arabia and NOT shoot down anything that wasn't fixed wing air-craft. When I heard that Bush and company were expecting flowers to greet our troops, I cringed. I mean, after the big let down in 1991? REALLY?!?!
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jordan111 year, 4 months ago
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Who are those who set off bombs on the side of the road and blow up Iraqi Shiite children in pet stores? >>>>>
Sunni's for all you know. Iraqi Sunni's. Not 'terrorists' who attacked us. They're fighting each other, yanno. The Shias and the Sunni's. Both want power against the other. And if by chance they were al qaeda, WE LET THEM IN!!! WE didn't protect the borders! They come from Saudi Arabia. Just walk right on across the border, they do. But the fact is, they weren't there before WE got there. And the majority of those mistreated were NOT al qaeda, if any at all were.
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bigurn1 year, 4 months ago
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They were Ba'athist thugs, Iranian agents, Mahdi Army, and Sadrist criminals. If this sounds like a glee club to you, let me know.
Let me help you: By the time we needed a prison in Abu Gharib, we were in a shooting war with a broad definition of "insurgent" groups. They were blowing things up, including themselves, and inflicting terror on the general population. What would you call people who inflict terror weapons on others?
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jordan111 year, 4 months ago
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You're full of it. I'll take the word of people who were so disgusted with what we were doing, & who had nothing to gain from stepping forward, & who were THERE. Here's one of MANY.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/07/ira...
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bronk771 year, 4 months ago
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You don't charge them with anything. You throw their asses in a hole and leave them there. They were picked up on the battlefield in the act of trying to kill our GI's! When the hell are people like you gonna wake up??????
"My gawd, what does it take for people like you to wake the hell up???????"
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Candida1 year, 4 months ago
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bronk77,
What does it take for people like you to wake up? The majority of people who were held in Gitmo has already been released without being charged with anything. Is your administration so incompetent that it releases people who have been picked up on the battlefield in the act of trying to kill your GIs?
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
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"Sounds like they'd prefer death than have underwear over their head and photographed."
--And in some cultures I'm sure we're perceived as nutjobs for going ballistic if someone burns our flag and for holding Congressional hearings because a woman shows her bare breast on tv for 2 seconds. It's pretty cool how we get to be both the democracy spreader and the sole arbiter of what qualifies as torture. In essence, we sexually assaulted these people for fun. The bottom line is that if you wouldn't want to see that happen to Americans then we shouldn't be doing it to anyone else. Otherwise, get out of the business of nation building. Oh well..."my country, right or wrong..."
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Sabretooth1 year, 4 months ago
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Mutainia said:
"I KNOW his face can't be seen, but, hey, it MIGHT get him telling where a bomb is."
Perhaps you could link the terrorist attacks that have been thwarted by the use of torture, that may help prove your point.
I also would like to question your right to prosecute terrorists when you are a country that supports the use of terrorism globally as it suits your needs. I think it may help your cause to prosecute your own people before you start in on other countries.
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Candida1 year, 4 months ago
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Mutainia: "I say, try just about ANYthing, if it saves people from either being killed"
You see, here is the stumbling block: "if it saves people." You never know ahead of time whether it would save anybody since you may be torturing an innocent person.
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Mutainia1 year, 4 months ago
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Which is why one should never torture ANYone unless you are a hundred percent certain that the one you have in your custody KNOWS the where-a-bouts of a bomb. THOSE are the ones I'm saying "SURFS UP!!" to. Thank God Muslims see drawing pictures of Muhammad as worse than being waterboarded, allowing one to bring the doubt down to atleast 90 percent certain for such "torture"...drawing pictures of Muhammad, I'm advocating.
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