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donald511 year, 4 months ago
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Gee Klarris, as a former educator I'd have thought you'd be more broad minded to the idea that what he meant was for Americans to broaden their horizons. We'll be less self centered, if we learn more about other people! But, such is how you right wingers spin your lies and deceptions!
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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really, Donald, I am tired of Obama's supporters saying , "What he meant".
He said what he said.
One of the things that bothers me about Obama's supporters is that I read a lot of personal interpretation of what he said, giving it a meaning that fits with the supporter's "hope".
He didn't say anything about adults, he said, "Americans need to make sure your child can speak Spanish", implying that English will not be the language of the land when the children grow up.
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lum-chate1 year, 4 months ago
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obama's an internationalist, he says it's in his DNA.
His mother had families with 2 different Muslim men.
His father supposedly was married to 6 women. I think this spanish stuff is just a feeler for what he's setting America up for.
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socialnetworkin1 year, 4 months ago
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Personally, I think both McCain and Obama are 2 sides to the same coin. Voting for either one will demonstrate how short-sighted most Americans can be. The man who has consistently shown that real change can occur is Ron Paul.
He stopped his campaign, but, he's still in the race.
http://www.CampaignForLiberty.org
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schmirt1 year, 4 months ago
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Frankly, it seems to be in Obama's tendency to mock America at every turn. Whether it is those that "kling to bibles...guns" or if America is "a country we were never truly proud of until..."
Its more the "DNA" of the leftist and elitists to mock Americana. Academia worships idealistic collectivisms as they are detached from the working America. Hollywood stars decry the base American culture as they jet-set about vacation villas throughout Europe and win affection from the anti-American glitter-otti.
Obama is just a product of the leftist elitist indoctrination of the Ivy schools and the hardcore anti-American racial politic that dominates to urban grievence culture.
Obama is working to win the votes of the middle now. The left will tolerate his deceptions because they value power over principle (the ends justify...).If he can avoid the mocking of country and family so common among his crowd, he will succeed.
On the other hand, Obama is God isnt he?
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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DNA??
Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs. Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro)
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lum-chate1 year, 4 months ago
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Take a look at Obama's father & his live relatives in Kenya.
They are 100% African Black, there is no Arab blood in that clan. They are Muslims as a segment of Black Africans are but they Obama's Luo Tribe immediate family are black not Arab.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 4 months ago
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''really, Donald, I am tired of Obama's supporters saying , "What he meant".''
"implying that English will not be the language of the land when the children grow up."
why are you allowed to speculate on the implications of what Obama says, and 'Obama's supporters' are not?
that's not cricket
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 4 months ago
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Its good advice to have your child speak Spanish. I regret not starting my kids on a foreign language at an international school at an early age. Spanish would be a top choice. Americans who are bilingual are getting all the top jobs.
Klarissa, you inferred that Obama meant the English language will go away. That's ridiculous. That's your own mindset, not his.
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cushi1 year, 4 months ago
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What everyone says is interpreted by whoever is listening! You choose to interpret to mean something negative because it suits your partisan agenda to do so.
Donald51's interpretation of what Obama said is just as valid and probably more accurate than yours, because it doesn't come couched in political bias.
You have made a gigantic s-t-r-e-t-c-h to imply that Obama meant that English would not be the language of the land when the children grow, and you have the nerve to accuse others of "personally interpreting" what he said!
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injest1 year, 4 months ago
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Gee Donald "what he meant" was Americans should learn Spanish.
Now if he meant to say "broaden their horizons" he would have included German French and the "other" 180 languages California requires ALL government documents to be written in, ya think!
Vero Pusillanimous.
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mompro1 year, 4 months ago
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"What he meant" as compared to McCain always saying "They took that out of context". Good grief, it's all say and explain later these days. How about universal sign language?
Oh, that's right. We would have to agree on the signs for everything. Gee, guess that won't work either.
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svensun1 year, 4 months ago
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NO, donald, he didn't ask Americans to 'broaden their horizons', but to NARROW THEIR HORIZONS!!!
HE SAID: :"instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English", SO HE WANTS TO LIMIT THE 'HORIZONS' OF AMERICANS; he wants to make OFF-LIMITS the goal of requiring immigrants to learn English as a topic for debate by the American body politic!
He wants to STIFLE DEBATE, and SILENCE PEOPLE, not 'broaden their horizons'!
Nice try at spinning what he said, but he said it, and if you support him, you're STUCK WITH IT!
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 4 months ago
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Actually svensun, you are way off base. Talk about LEAPING TO CONCLUSIONS--
So on the one hand, critics of Obama are saying " This is what he actually said" so you can't argue what he meant. Now svensun comes along and is making an argument about what Obama meant, based on nothing Obama said. It's really pretty funny.
Obama's statement is the opposite of stifling debate. It is encouraging going the extra mile by learning another language to be inclusive. It is the grass roots pragmatic Obama speaking. Sometimes you need to actually make an effort to get something done. People who don't want to go global will just get left behind.
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svensun1 year, 4 months ago
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So, obie, are you claiming that Obama DID NOT say that Americans should stop 'worrying about whether immigrants can learn English'?
Did he NOT say that? Does he believe that it is still appropriate for Americans to INSIST that immigrants LEARN English, that our schools should focus on THAT GOAL?
I can tell you that in California, the citizens of this state were 'worrying about whether immigrants can learn English' so much that in 1998, 63% voted for Propositon 227, which says, in part:
"f) Therefore, It is resolved that: all children in California public schools shall be taught English as rapidly and effectively as possible.
Article 2. English Language Education
305. Subject to the exceptions provided in Article 3 (commencing with Section 310), all children in California public schools shall be taught English by being taught in English. In particular, this shall require that all children be placed in English language classrooms."
So what does B. Hussein mean, exactly?
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AnteUp1 year, 4 months ago
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donald51 ~
Well put. The wars are global - the economy is global -
health crises are global - and shortages of resources
are global as well. So what could be wrong with encouraging
our students to be fully able to participate in this
global society?
My guess is because he said "Spanish" - Hispanic,Latino or
Mexican, the very mention of the word is like a flash point
right now. When's the last time anyone voiced concern about
the Russian mob? No way - we are too busy demonizing Latin
Americans. There are school districts that brag about their
distinction of having a high graduation rate of students
with Russian and Chinese language skills. They regard this
as progress - mention Spanish and the reaction is entirely
different.
I've had plenty of beefs with Obama lately - but his
entreaty that we embrace the concept of multi-lingual
skills is not one of them. He was speaking about LANGUAGE -
it wasn't an immigration issue.
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