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Posted By bubba2 1 year, 4 months ago in NewsHalliburton KBR improperly installed electrical wiring or failed to fix known electrical hazards at U.S. bases in Iraq that resulted in the deaths of 11 service members and 2 civilians, family members and former employees of the contracting giant testified at a Congressional hearing. KBR officials were invited to the hearing but did not attend.
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bubba21 year, 4 months ago
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FTA --
"The KBR employees supervising these electrical contractors often had no electrical experience at all. How can you effectively supervise electricians when you don't understand what they are doing or what the potential ramifications are if it is not done correctly? Qualified electricians found it difficult to deal with the complacency, the lack of leadership, the lack of tools and materials and the lack of safety. Time and time again we heard 'this is not the States, [Occupational Safety and Health Administration] doesn't apply here. You're in a war zone, what do you expect?' and 'If you don't like it you can go home.'"
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bubba21 year, 4 months ago
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The really disgusting, morally outrageous thing about this is that neither Halliburton or KBR will ever really be held accountable for those deaths and for their shoddy, substandard work (for which WAY TOO MUCH MONEY was given them) - just like they will NEVER be held accountable for ANY of the fraud, waste, rape, and death they have caused.
Cheney will make sure that NOTHING ever happens to anyone at Halliburton or KBR.
Our government has no morality and no shame.
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Grrr1 year, 4 months ago
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Accountability for stuff like this really is dependent on who gets elected this year, all the way down the line, POTUS, Houses, State and local. Either we install a government that believes in accountability, responsibility and the rule of law, or we don't.
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Spadecaller1 year, 4 months ago
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Government contracts with Haliburton should have been rescinded a long time ago. The fact that they haven't been is testimony to the collusion and involvement of both parties, Democratic and Republican, in addition to the thugs (GWB and Cheney) who gave them the no bid contracts in the first place. Esssentially, we have mobsters running our nation and paying off everyone they can. Let's stop pretending.
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Poulenc1 year, 4 months ago
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I sometimes ask myself where the greed comes from that fuels the gross immorality of Bush and Co. (Though George himself seems a secondary, or do I mean tertiary, player.)
I guess what Cheney et al can never have enough of is power, of which dough is all-too-obviously symbolic, if not the thing itself.
The horror here is, as other posters have said, that there's no accountability, no reckoning. My AM Times explores the arrest last May of nearly 400 workers for being in the United States illegally, by Federal immigration agents, who raided an Iowa Agriprocessors factory.
Many of the immigrant defendants didn't fully understand the criminal charges they were facing or the rights most of them had, unfortunately, waived. Many will end up in prison, rather than being deported.
A crude comparison of the...wherewithal of the powerful versus the powerless, perhaps, but--god!
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hamy1 year, 4 months ago
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Again, how can my tax money be used to fund these criminals? I am so disgusted right now that I could spit. How come the Bushbots aren't here defending this action. I am sure someone will come along and say "Clinton did it" sometime soon.
A.G.? Zeit? Wolfie?
Come on. Defend this piece of garbage president and his cronies.
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Poulenc1 year, 4 months ago
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(Hamy, nostalgic for the ol' conserv rhetoric? Then you might want to visit:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/07/12/...
Where thousands of right-thinking (pun intended) posters are claiming that Obama wants to supplant English with Spanish in the USA.
A deliberate misinterpretation of his remarks, but fascinating in as much as the response is--typically, IMHO--one of fear 'n' smear.)
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Tcaros1 year, 4 months ago
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Normally there would be a 60 MINUTES or DATELINE special on this, but since it would make the companies look bad there's nothing, but crickets.
We can't even get a GERALDO (he's sold out long ago) to run a piece on this.
The press is shameful these days.
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bubba21 year, 4 months ago
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If the current administration were Democrats, you had better believe that the Republicans would have been SCREAMING about this a LONG time ago - and if Bush were a Democrat, he would have been impeached a LONG time ago by the Republicans.
The Republican party is nothing short of amoral and hypocritical. The things they do are just fine all the time - but if the Democrats did the SAME things they would be skewered by the Republicans for it.
Just ONE example is the filibuster - when the Republicans were in the majority and the Democrats used it, the Republicans threatened to remove filibuster from the rules.
Since the Democrats have had the majority, more than 70 filibusters have been actioned by the Republicans. So, when they are in the minority it is ok - when they are in the majority, it is wrong.
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Teech1 year, 4 months ago
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Repukes are on to more important issues of vital, national importance - Obama's mortgage rate, which was higher than market. When they're not harping on what his wife or his minister might be saying, they're still worried about Clinton's BJ. What war? What recession? What national debt? What ruined economy?
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miklkit1 year, 4 months ago
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This is SOP for those companies. They were involved in modernizing a steel mill here back in the 80's. A local newspaper interviewed an electrician. He was from Louisiana, and was living in a trailer park with his family. She was on welfare and getting food stamps. The kids were enrolled in local schools. He was making $7.46 an hour when Union electricians were making $18.00 an hour with benefits. This was typical of the workers imported for that job. That job went behind schedule and over budget. The workmanship was so shoddy that we were called in right after they finally left to clean up their mess. The mill hardly ran at all. It has been a 100% Union shop ever since.
You can bet the same people are in Iraq right now.
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Teech1 year, 4 months ago
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Tsk Tsk. Rest assured that the Bush administration will not let the deaths of 13 people involved in this case get in the way of lining their pockets, and Halliburton's pockets with taxpayer cash.
Why would the Bushapo give a rat's ass about these 13 when they don't give a good sh!t about over 4400 soldiers killed, thousands more maimed, and maybe a million civilian casualties? Hey, Dumbya is keeping you "safe", remember?
No jobs, a ruined economy, a prolonged bloody war based on lies making the super rich even super richer, a 10 trillion national debt, energy prices 5 times what they were when tbe shrub took office, yes - this is the Bush legacy. Be interesting to see how it gets warped and twisted for his "library." Knowing Repukes penchant for lying, they'll depict him as the savior of the western world instead of the strongest ally terrorists ever had.
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donald511 year, 4 months ago
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They let gang rape of their female employees go on in the greeen zone too, up to 2 dozen women claiming so now, and the Bush justice department does nothing!
When the Dems took Monday testimony because Hastert declared only a 4 day work week, we had testimony that the Bush justice department had stonewalled every case of reported contractor fraud and abuse from overseas! Add Blackwater and Halliburton immunity... 32 Million to a Florida Company for barracks never built... Iraqi Police Academy condemned before it was even used... the total failure of 4 years of contract training of the iraqi miltary/police which resulted in the mission going totally to Petraeus!
There used to be procurement policy that prevented these sole source, unaudited contracts before the Bushies took over!
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mmrhe1 year, 4 months ago
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The real tragedy here is the truth won't be known about how inept and corrupt this bunch has been til the worst Recession (Depression?) in post-war history is upon us and then the finger pointing will ignite all kinds of crazy $hit!
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