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http://mediamatters.org/items/200807180013
"In the new negative ad which will run in battleground states while Obama is abroad, McCain accuses Obama of 'voting against funding our troops,' but McCain himself 'voted against funding our troops' when he voted against legislation that would have provided funds for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and directed more than $1 billion to the Department of Veterans Affairs, as well as other legislation funding care for veterans." "Obama did vote against a 2007 war-funding bill because he registering an objection to legislation that 'lacked a timetable for troop withdrawal'--a position that arguably means he was more concerned about troop well-being, not less."

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    ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    LOCKY:
    "And as that timetable winded down, what exactly do you think the enemy would do? Blow kisses at our troops?"
    You mean the same timetable Bush just agreed to? The same timetable that flip-flop McCain last week blasted but this week supports?
    LOL.
    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/0...
    "The Obama campaign welcomed comments by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki supporting Sen. Barack Obama's proposed 16-month timetable for withdrawal from Iraq.
    Asked when most U.S. troops would leave Iraq, Maliki said: 'As soon as possible, as far as we're concerned. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes. Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq today are being more realistic. Artificially prolonging the tenure of US troops in Iraq would cause problems.'"
    
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    ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    "The Obama campaign issued a memo to reporters, 'Obama Leading on Foreign Policy, McCain Following':
    There are two problems with John McCain's political attacks on Barack Obama's foreign policy. First, Barack Obama made the right judgment and John McCain has sided with George Bush in making the wrong one [in starting the Iraq War in the first place]. Second, the failure of the McCain-Bush foreign policy has forced John McCain to change his position, and to embrace the very same Obama approaches that he once attacked.
    Just this week, Senator McCain has been forced by events to switch to Barack Obama's position on two fundamental issues: more troops in Afghanistan, and more diplomacy with Iran.
    The next shift appears to be Iraq. For months, Senator McCain has called any plan to redeploy our troops from Iraq 'surrender.' Now, Bush is embracing the negotiation of troop withdrawals with the Iraqi government - a position that Senator Obama called for last September."
    
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      tchef1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      No, we want to bring them home. Which is much better than leaving them there. Continuing to fund this endless operation with borrowed money is saying f*ck the troops.
      
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        GLOBALWARMER:
        "So, I assume you agree with with Obama with his sentiment: F*ck the troops?"
        You obviously were either too lazy, too illiterate, or too inept (or maybe all 3!) to finish reading the rest of the article.
        LOL.
        FROM THE ARTICLE:
        "In the new negative ad which will run in battleground states while Obama is abroad, McCain accuses Obama of 'voting against funding our troops,' but McCain himself 'voted against funding our troops' when he voted against legislation that would have provided funds for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and directed more than $1 billion to the Department of Veterans Affairs, as well as other legislation funding care for veterans."
        Literacy - it's a wonderful thing. You should try it sometime.
        LOL.
        
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        tchef1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        Well let's see, if we attached a timetable for a withdrawal to the funding bill, Bush will veto it, so he would effectively be doing exactly what you say (cut off supplies and ammunition). So what makes his action any different?
        
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  tiredofwhiners1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Arguably he voted against the funding and has presented himself (until recently) as having been against the war since the beginning. If you're against a war you don't fund it at all. He didn't get the timetable he wanted and so you use that to excuse his voting against it. Having a timetable is well known to be a signal to the enemy to wait until that time, and is always a big no-no in any war. Obama is scary to me if responsible for anything to do with dealing with enemies, and there are plenty of enemies of freedom out there. Nobody is against the welfare of the troops.
  
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    ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    TIRED:
    "If you're against a war you don't fund it at all. He didn't get the timetable he wanted and so you use that to excuse his voting against it."
    Using your own tortured logic, the converse should also be true. "If you're for war, then you always vote in favor of funding it." It's laughable how your double-standards would condemn Obama, while excusing McCain:
    FROM THE ARTICLE:
    "In the new negative ad which will run in battleground states while Obama is abroad, McCain accuses Obama of 'voting against funding our troops,' but McCain himself 'voted against funding our troops' when he voted against legislation that would have provided funds for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and directed more than $1 billion to the Department of Veterans Affairs, as well as other legislation funding care for veterans."
    Spare me your hypocritical partisan double-standards.
    
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  tiredofwhiners1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  The ads are truthful, not negative. I have seen political ads, in Presidential and all other elections, since 1962. The Democrats win the dirty and negative ads contest hands down. I remember voting for the loser, Goldwater in 1964. They had ads showing atomic bombs going off!!! (WWIII) and portraying him as trigger happy! Look who we got, LBJ and Vietnam. In recent years the dirty ads by Dems have gotten worse. We will see who wins the neg ad contest this year. Think about this: What truly major conflict will arise in the future if Obama gets in and he just gives up on every threat that arises.
  
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    ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    TIRED:
    "The Democrats win the dirty and negative ads contest hands down."
    You obviously don't remember what happened to McCain in the South Carolina 2000 primary against Bush.
    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opin...
    "Anonymous opponents used push polling to suggest that McCain's Bangladeshi born daughter was his own, illegitimate black child. Bob Jones University professor Richard Hand sent an e-mail to 'fellow South Carolinians' stating that McCain had 'chosen to sire children without marriage.'
    http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=...
    "Bush Supporters Called McCain 'The Fag Candidate.' In South Carolina, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain 'the fag candidate.'"
    "Among the rumors circulated was that McCain was both gay and cheated on his wife, and that his wife Cindy was a drug addict."
    
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    "Using the code word "temper," a group of Senate Republicans, and at least some outriders of the George W. Bush campaign, are spreading the word that John McCain is unstable."
    "Some of George W. Bush's supporters have questioned Republican presidential candidate John McCain's fitness for the White House, suggesting that his five years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam drove him insane at the time."
    "Bush supporters in South Carolina made race-baiting phone calls saying that McCain had an illegitimate 'black child.' The McCains' daughter, Bridget, was adopted from Mother Teresa's orphanage in Bangladesh."
    "Rove spread rumors against McCain, such as 'suggestions that McCain had committed treason while a prisoner of war, and had fathered a child by a black prostitute'"
    "Sampleyâ;¦ accused McCain of being a weak-minded coward who had escaped death by collaborating with the enemy."
    
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