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Aidenag1 year, 5 months ago

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There ya have it. Maliki said it word for word.. And all the stories giving statements that it isn't true come from the US military... Seems to me like Maliki spoke what he really felt, and he got scolded by the hand that feeds him until 2009...

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  Goppy1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  As if there were any question.
  Well ... some of our nation's more gullible can be dissuaded I guess what with all the Propaganda being stoked by Agents of Disinformation.
  It was announced this morning on Good Morning America that al Maliki did indeed endorse Obama's plan.
  Good Morning America!!
  The same organization that gave Goerge W. Bush $640,000 to his 2000 campaign!!
  MAN ALIVE! The WHOLE WORLD is fed up with the Iraq fiasco!
  Well .. .not our nation's Neo-Conservatives ... they see war as a Product of the Economy.
  See how Morally Vacant Neo-Conservatism is?
  
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  Dionys1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  Where's LibsR? Wasn't he ranting about how Maliki didn't say these things? Funny how Repugnant Cons are always silent once the facts pop up.
  
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      Mutainia1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      The Sadr supporters (insurgents) are REALLY excited about the Obama plan to have a time table to withdraw. I guess they think when American troops pull out, the Sunnis will continue to be peaceful toward them.
      
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        Mutainia1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        And NOT like the Sunnis were before the surge.
        
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        ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        LIBSRFUNNY:
        "A couple weeks ago it was Obama who co-opted Bush's ideas about talking to ground commanders."
        Actually, Obama's 16-month timeline has ALWAYS been a flexible estimate based on the available data. He has ALWAYS been open to adjusting this in accordance with advice from commanders.
        http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008...
        "So my position has not changed, but keep in mind what that original position was. I've always said that I would listen to commanders on the ground. I've always said the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability. That assessment has not changed. And when I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I'm sure I'll have more information and will continue to refine my policies."
        It's funny to watch them writhe, contort, and flip-flop, isn't it?
        LOL.
        
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        ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        LIBSRFUNNY:
        "That outcome-based education sure isn't doing you libs any good."
        http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/...
        This table shows that people with advanced post-graduate degrees tend to vote Democratic over Republican by a 58% to 41% margin.
        http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?Pa...
        "According to a Pew Research study, liberals have the highest education level of any typology group - 49% are college graduates and 26% have some postgraduate education."
        http://www.alec.org/meSWFiles/pdf/2003_Report_C...
        http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2004/politics10...
        8 of the 10 most highly educated states (Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Massachusetts, Vermont, Washington, New Hampshire, and Oregon) tend to vote Democrat while 8 of the 10 least educated states (Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Texas, Florida) tend to vote Republican.
        
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        Sabretooth1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        I can see you Libs are smarter just by the way you use all the fancy links and facts to back you up...very little of that heresay and such.
        
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        ybdogsct1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowl...
        According to a Pew Research study, there are substantial differences in the knowledge levels of the audiences for different news outlets. Regular viewers of the Daily Show / Colbert Report have the highest knowledge levels (54%). Regular viewers of the Fox News Channel have the second-to-lowest knowledge levels (35%).
        Although the Daily Show / Colbert Report attract younger audiences [those still in school], more Daily Show / Colbert Report audience members (31%) have a bachelor's degree than Fox News viewers (22%).
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6117542/
        "Bill O'Reilly kept referring to The Daily Show audience as 'stoned slackers.' But viewers of Jon Stewart's show are more likely to have completed 4 years of college than people who watch The O'Reilly Factor, according to Nielsen Media Research."
        LOL.
        
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        Teech1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        "There ya have it. Maliki said it word for word."
        And I suppose you expect us to believe Maliki, when he clarifies what he said, over Alpha Gnosis who Gnos what he REALLY said? Tsk, tsk, tsk.
        
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        Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        Of course the interpreter didn't make any mistake. This is second hand. And I am going to believe the NYT since they are such a middle of the road paper and never slant the news at all.
        I have a friend that has a house on a Siesta Key, Florida he will be willing to sell you cheap.
        
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        Dionys1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        "The Sadr supporters (insurgents) are REALLY excited about the Obama plan to have a time table to withdraw. I guess they think when American troops pull out, the Sunnis will continue to be peaceful toward them."
        I think the Sadr supporters were happiest when Bush gave Al Sadr and his supporters in excess of 100million dollars right around the time of the military 'surge.' It was a surge of money to the insurgents that stopped them fighting.
        
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      NoWayMan1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      its like talking to a wall. a shrill, stupid, misinformed wall. a wall in complete denial, thats crumbling under the weight of its own lies and doesn't even realize it.
      
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        CRYMTYPHON1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        I agree.
        Kinda disheartening, in a way.
        But forget that wall.
        The whole rotten building has to come down.
        
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      MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      We've noticed that you have been much less patient and much more nasty, you know name-calling and such.. Check your blood pressure,
      or if it's frustration, well, then that's even more of a reason to check it.. We don't want anyone dying on us, but if you need to be hospitalized please make sure it's during election week.. We know you're destined to vote for the guy who we use to like because he use to hate the guy that you love..Now he loves the guy that we hate, so now we aren't too keen on him... You know, a neutered male is never as frisky as
      a non-neutered one.
      By the way..Obama is flexible and is willing to look at all reasonable points of view to keep as many options open as possible..You know cowboys and Romans just hate that!
      seen any successful Roman leaders around lately?
      
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      ADAGUY1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      "Maliki did not say 16 months was definitive,"
      That's interesting, I don't recall Obama saying this either!
      
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        Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        That was his early campaign promise. We would be out in 16 months. Only lately has he said anything to possibly alter that figure. 1984 is here. Politicians change the story and the lemmings act as though that was what was said all the time. And here I thought George Orwell just wrote that as fiction.
        
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      Sabretooth1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      "A couple weeks ago it was Obama who co-opted Bush's ideas about talking to ground commanders. A year ago, Obama said all was lost."
      Lol, Bush listening to ground commanders, that must be the chat right before they are forced to retire for disagreeing with him.
      
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        Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        ROTFLMAO
        Obama talks the talk but McCain and Bush walk the walk.
        
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        CRYMTYPHON1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        They walk.
        They talk.
        They walk, they talk; pull the string and they say 'America, we will let you know when the war is over'.
        And if you pull the string again, they say, 'More money please. It's a LONG war.'.
        And if you pull the string again, they say 'More bodies please it's a LONG war.'.
        And if you pull the string again, they are gone.
        Because they weren't really your puppets; you were theirs.
        And its 2009 and Bush is off golfing and writing his memoirs, and McCain is golfing and writing his memoirs, and the knock on your door; - that's YOUR bill for the war.
        
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        Sabretooth1 year, 5 months ago
        
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        Excellent, well written Crymtyphon. People like you give me faith that perhaps America can rebound from what thugs like Endoscopy have made it.
        
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    mark-stevens1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Same with bullies when confronted by a true tough guy!!
    
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  mark-stevens1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  I posted yesterday that Bush's crew made some phone calls!!
  
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    Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    You mean that only yesterday there was phone calls in and out of the White House? What a concept.
    
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  NoWayMan1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  you can read the interview in transcript form here:
  http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,151...
  from the interview, verbatim:
  SPIEGEL: Would you hazard a prediction as to when most of the US troops will finally leave Iraq?
  MALIKI: As soon as possible, as far as we're concerned. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.
  
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    NoWayMan1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    SPIEGEL: Is this an endorsement for the US presidential election in November? Does Obama, who has no military background, ultimately have a better understanding of Iraq than war hero John McCain?
    Maliki: Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq today are being more realistic. Artificially prolonging the tenure of US troops in Iraq would cause problems. Of course, this is by no means an election endorsement. Who they choose as their president is the Americans' business. But it's the business of Iraqis to say what they want. And that's where the people and the government are in general agreement: The tenure of the coalition troops in Iraq should be limited.
    
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      Spinward1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      Maybe I'm missing something, but this does not sound like an endorsement of Obama.
      OF COURSE, he wants troops to leave his country, but THINK! Does he want them to leave before he can handle security? NO!!! Why, in the name of all that's holy, would a man ask for his country to be thrown into chaos?
      "...short time periods are being more realistic." YES!!! This is NOT an endorsement of an "End the war. - Obama position." It's an endorsement of a "Let's win the war soon" position.
      Wow.
      Obama said the surge would fail and HE OPPOSED IT, then he said the situation is deteriorating, then he said that the surge has not worked, then he said we are worsening the situation with the surge... Now, he says (a year later) that the surge has made things better and violence has reduced due to the troops.
      So, when was he right? You cannot lead with a rear-view mirror and no foresight.
      
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      Sabretooth1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      "But it's the business of Iraqis to say what they want. And that's where the people and the government are in general agreement: The tenure of the coalition troops in Iraq should be limited."
      Oops, now they are going to force this guy to resign too. I think he may have just emboldened the terrorists.
      
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      Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
      
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      Where you have Maliki you need to insert "interpreter for Maliki".
      I know that you think that interpreters never make any mistakes in either direction. Is that correct?
      
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  ADAGUY1 year, 5 months ago
  
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  "Maliki spoke what he really felt, and he got scolded by the hand that feeds him"
  Yer' gonna put Alpha into depression. Hell, she might even go psycho, man! What are you thinking about? Hell, you should know that publickins' can't stand facts!
  
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    Endoscopy1 year, 5 months ago
    
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    Of course you have some credible evidence for that statement about the White House.
    It is easy to try to read into this that these two are saying the same thing because you want it to be there.
    
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