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Posted By Spadecaller 11 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsThis Spadecaller video features a speech delivered at Notre Dame by Governor Mario Cuomo (1983) on the subject of religious belief and public morality. The mixing of politics and religion have morphed into a dangerous morass. Which candidate and party does Jesus Christ endorse?
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Spadecaller11 months, 2 weeks ago
About the Video:
Featuring "Land of My Fathers" performed by the Welsh Choir, with paintings by Wm. Bouguereau, Salvador Dali, Michelangelo, J.W. Waterhouse, and Visual Arts by Spadecaller.
Since 1983, invoking the name of Jesus Christ for political endorsement has become routine strategy for political campaigns.
Has Jesus Christ become the "celestial party chairman"? Is the throne Democratic or Republican?
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AntiNeoCon11 months, 2 weeks ago
No Jesus has a much higher ranking. I agree however that preachers and priest should not try to tell their members how to vote. And as far as I am concerned my neighbors, friends, relatives, and others shouldn't tell me how to vote either...I like to figure that out myself. :)
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hyperbola11 months, 2 weeks ago
Well, sounds "progressive" Spade. I assume that this also applies when jews invoke religion for political purposes and that you now agree with this israeli jewish author?
Why Israel Has No "Right to Exist" as a Jewish State
Religion â;; The Annapolis meeting is a con. We should say loud and clear that Israel has no right to exist as a Jewish state. To claim such a right to be racist must come from a being whose victim's face must hide very dark primordial aggression and hatred of all others.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2007/11/21/...
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Dicax_Maximus11 months, 2 weeks ago
Superb post SC, and perfect timing, given the current political shenanigans !!!!
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Poulenc11 months, 2 weeks ago
Great video, Spade!
Of course no religious authority nor group should direct the faithful towards or away from a candidate or candidates; but of course many do and will, if in subtle ways.
And of course pandering to religious outfits is a consistent theme as elections draw near; voters are defined in terms of faith-blocks (like the religious right, who aren't, as far as I know, Taoists), and thus the line between politics and faith becomes blurred.
In a better world, no candidate would seek the votes of nor campaign to religious groups as groups. I don't think doing this by "touching all bases," by visiting every religious group, is the way to go either.
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uncle-dave11 months, 2 weeks ago
It doesn't seem that long ago that John F. Kennedy had to reassure the electorate that his religious beliefs wouldn't effect the way he governed. Anyone that is seeking public office today has to proclaim their religious beliefs before the public would even consider voting for them.
Personally I believe that public officials should be sworn in on a copy of the Constitution not the bible.
Another nice piece of work SC! I agree with rdy2rck I like choir music too!
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hyperbola11 months, 2 weeks ago
A better characterization might be that since zoroastrians were the first monotheists, jews, christians and moslems copied much of their religious tenets from zoroastrianism. Of course, it doesn't represent the polytheistic or animistic religions at all, which are still a major proportion of mankind.
It does have attractive points - indeed one might say that the subsequent monotheistic religious represent a degradation of zoroastrianism.
ZOROASTRIANISM
A Universal Religion: Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds
Zarathushtra's is a message about a spirituality that progresses towards self-realization, fulfillment and completeness, as a good creation of a totally good God. It is a message of freedom - freedom to choose, freedom from fear, freedom from guilt, freedom from sin, freedom from stultifying rituals, superstitious practices, fake spirituality and ceremonials.
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Spadecaller11 months, 2 weeks ago
Glad to see you up and around, my friend. With all the finger pointing going on around here, we need your hand back in the fray.
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Spadecaller11 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks ind. Good to hear from ya. I thought Cuomo's clarity on the subject was worthy of showcasing.
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Tango5711 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks Spadecaller, another excellent video. It sickens me to think in the coming months that somehow, someone will bring God into politics, and proclaim to be the one chosen by God to be President.
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imarketing4s11 months, 2 weeks ago
I always thought Jesus was the best politician come public speaker we had. His predecessors are just jumping the bandwagon.
It's surprising how this antiquated debate still exists after centuries of conflict. Faith is their common ground, just trying to exert influence where it can be exerted. They want to be on the winning side, cant really blame them.
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