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    AntiNeoCon1 year, 3 months ago

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    No Jesus has a much higher ranking. I agree however that preachers and priest should not try to tell their members how to vote. And as far as I am concerned my neighbors, friends, relatives, and others shouldn't tell me how to vote either...I like to figure that out myself. :)

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      cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago

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      ANC:

      I left churches for the right wing or left wing sentiment.

      I go to church to worship God the Trinity.

      Not to hear about mans political answers.

      It seems to me Jesus rebuked all those who put their political views into play, when he said no man is holy only God.

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        Spadecaller1 year, 3 months ago

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        hyper:

        As Mario Cuomo well stated, this applies to ALL religions. Of course, as I would expect, posting this video provides anti-Semites an opportunity for their cheap shots at me and/at Israel; and I would expect nothing better from you on the subject.

        Hate and bigotry is quite predictable; isn't it?

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          hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago

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          What is anti-semite about posting the views of an israeli jew, spade? Do you agree with him or do your platitudes here only apply when your religion is the minority?

          Here is an american jew who espouses much the same as you are claiming here - surely you agree with her?

          Personally I agree with both of you - what you espouse applies to both Israel and America.

          The End Of Israel?

          By Hannah Mermelstein

          I am feeling optimistic about Palestine.

          I know it sounds crazy. How can I use "optimistic" and "Palestine" in the same sentence when conditions on the ground only seem to get worse?...

          ...We can never forget these things and the daily suffering of the people, and yet I dare to say that I am optimistic. Why? Ehud Olmert. Let me clarify. Better yet, let's let him clarify:

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            hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago

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            "The day will come when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights. As soon as that happens, the state of Israel is finished."

            That's right, the Prime Minister of Israel is currently trying to negotiate a "two-state solution" specifically because he realizes that if he doesn't, Palestinians might begin to demand, en masse, equal rights to Israelis. Furthermore, he worries, the world might begin to see Israel as an apartheid state. In actuality, most of the world already sees Israel this way, but Olmert is worried that even Israel's most ardent supporters will begin to catch up with the rest of the world....

            I am optimistic not because I think the process of ethnic cleansing and apartheid in Israel/Palestine is going to end tomorrow, but because I can feel the ideology behind these policies beginning to collapse.

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              hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago

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              For years the true meaning of political Zionism has been as ignored as its effects on Palestinian daily life. And suddenly it is beginning to break open. Olmert's comments last week are reminiscent of those of early Zionist leaders who talked openly of transfer and ethnic cleansing in order to create an artificial Jewish majority in historic Palestine.

              So this idea of a "two-state solution" a la Olmert -- which I would argue provides neither a "state" nor a "solution" for the Palestinian people -- is the new transfer. It is no longer popular in the world to openly discuss expulsion (though there are political parties in Israel that advocate this), but Olmert hopes that by creating a Palestinian "state" on a tiny portion of historic Palestine, he can accomplish the same goal: maintaining an ethno-religious state exclusively for the Jewish people in most of historic Palestine.

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                hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago

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                His plan, as all other plans Israeli leaders have tried to "negotiate," ignores the basic rights of the two-thirds of the Palestinian population who are refugees. They, like all other refugees in the world, have the internationally recognized right to return to their lands and receive compensation for loss and damages. This should not be up for negotiation.

                So why am I optimistic? Why do I think Olmert will fail, if not in the short term, at least in the long term? There are many signs....

                ... So when Olmert warns that we will "face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights" and that "the state of Israel [will be] finished," I get a little flutter of excitement. I think of the 171 Palestinian organizations who have called on the international community to begin campaigns of boycott, divestment, and sanctions against Israel until Israel complies with international law.

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                  hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago

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                  This is already a South African-style struggle, and we outside of Palestine need to do our part. Especially those of us who live in the US, the country that gives Israel more than $10 million every single day, must take responsibility for the atrocities committed in our name and with our money.

                  Ultimately, this is our role as Americans. It is to begin campaigns in our churches, synagogues, mosques, universities, cities, unions, etc. It is not to broker false negotiations between occupier and occupied, and it is not to muse over solutions the way I have above. But one can dream. And as a Jewish-American, I know that while it might be scary to some, while it will require a lot of imagination, the end of Israel as a Jewish state could mean the beginning of democracy, human rights, and some semblance of justice in a land that has almost forgotten what that means.

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                    hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago

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                    (Hannah Mermelstein is co-founder and co-director of Birthright Unplugged, which takes mostly Jewish North American people into the West Bank to meet with Palestinian people and to equip them to return to their own communities and work for justice; and takes Palestinian children from refugee camps to Jerusalem, the sea, and the villages their grandparents fled in 1948, and supports them to document their experiences and create photography exhibits to share with their communities and with the world.)

                    http://www.countercurrents.org/mermelstein22120...

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                      Mutainia1 year, 3 months ago

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                      Taqqiya?

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            Spadecaller1 year, 3 months ago

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            hyper: coo coo... coo coo

            I figured that would send you off on one of your rants. Quite predictable.

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