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gamahuche11 months, 2 weeks ago
Well now they've got you buried on page 32.
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I actually reached it by going through all the pages..
Are these guys NUTS or what???
In my 13 years on the Internet I have almost never seen such a dog's bollocks of a mess.
They had something absolutely brilliant going - not flawless but some OUTSTANDING contributors, with some murky ones thrown in for good measure but THIS is SH**-
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gamahuche11 months, 2 weeks ago
Well now they've got you buried on page 32.
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I actually reached it by going through all the pages..
Are these guys NUTS or what???
In my 13 years on the Internet I have almost never seen such a dog's bollocks of a mess.
They had something absolutely brilliant going - not flawless but some OUTSTANDING contributors, with some murky ones thrown in for good measure but THIS is SH** -
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splitrch11 months, 2 weeks ago
makes you wonder what passes for brains these days. "propeller" - I think they got their heads in anatomically impossible positions.
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humemacdonald11 months, 2 weeks ago
I agree gamahuche. I said to Sumptuous last night that unless substantial changes are made I don't think I will be checking back in. very often. Although I have been busy lately, I always popped in here and there. In fact I was looking forward to getting "caught up" here during my break- I was missing the great chats.
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Alas, that plan has been scrubbed. If my friends start migrating to another site, just drop me a line to let me know where you are all hanging out. :( -
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Mdiar11 months, 2 weeks ago
Heck, Gama, I hope that my music submission wasn't among the spam! Though I agree, as good as the song was and the fact that it did get close to forty props from real members, it didn't deserve to be on the front page for over ten hours!
Okay, I've noticed you are particularly stringent on one complaint and its a good one. The PMing feature seems to have been removed. I don't believe this is the case; it appears to me its merely been moved. To PM enter the person's profile you wish to PM and in the upper left hand corner of the screen an option to Send Message should exist. That should let you send a PM to that member.
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JamesMarcus11 months, 2 weeks ago
While there are plenty of bad things to say about the redesign (and they are all getting said), I did want to make two points. First, we are definitely listening to every scrap of member feedback--in the threads, feedback inbox, site mail, and email. Our dev team is already revisiting certain features and we will be restoring some of the deleted ones very soon. We understand your frustration, and hope you will stick around long enough to give Prop 2.0 a fair shake after its bumpy debut. There are some gains here (Propeller Search, Groups, and what is projected to be a major performance upgrade, once the dust settles) and we are determined to fix bugs at record. Oh, and just for the record, nobody deliberately removed any of the earlier anti-Propeller stories. It has never been our policy to quash criticism. It looks like a spam-suppression feature may have glommed onto certain comments and stories by accident. We are fixing that right now, and it will not happen again.
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smithichie11 months, 2 weeks ago
I haven't given up yet James, you guys got it right before, I still have hope that it can be done again.
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scott426111 months, 2 weeks ago
James,
I'm willing to hang around for a while to see if things improve.
I have to ask: Were all the wholesale changes made necessary? I certainly do not mind a new look and the features you mentioned are nice additions. But couldn't the previous format have been tweaked to accommodate those additions?
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raats666211 months, 2 weeks ago
The 'changes' don't bother me nearly as much as the 'bugs'. If this is successful it will be the first time I'm able to 'reply' and I've tried to reply over 2 dozen times. I'm also getting REAL tired of getting error message and being told of 'pot holes'.
Fix this crap and one can at least TRY to decide if one is willing to accept the 'changes'. As it stands right now....why would I visit a site I'm unable to participate on?
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smithichie11 months, 2 weeks ago
A moral lesson the folks who run Propeller could have used before launching this mess.
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Here's a few of those lessons that were obviously 'overlooked'.
• It's the community, stupid.
• Many players don't experience a persistent online world as "a game." They experience it as "my life." An online world's hardcore players view themselves as citizens. Some want to be good citizens, some bad, but the entire core wants to believe they belong to something permanent.
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amazed11 months, 2 weeks ago
Especially when there was little warning. One day I had about a bajillion friends and the next --none. Not a huge deal, because I basically just communicated with them on the threads and I have a real life, but what about those for whom Propeller was their major social outlet?
Again, the missing "my participation" link and the inability to see beyond the first 25 comments make this site nearly useless for its intended purpose -- a discussion of issues.
I'll give it a week, but I am actively looking for other places to comment.
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MikeWesner11 months, 2 weeks ago
Hello, Participation is now activity on the sidebar (from your profile link). It appears you have 65 friends, 7 idols, 282 fans. idols are people you added but have not added you, and fans are people who have friend requested you, but you have not added them...etc. Friends are mutual adds. You do have your privacy settings set so most people can not see your friends.
We have fixed the comment paging issue also.
Thanks for being patient with us. Please let us know if you run into any more issues.
-Mike (prop developer)
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MikeWesner11 months, 2 weeks ago
Hello, Participation is now activity on the sidebar (from your profile link). It appears you have 65 friends, 7 idols, 282 fans. idols are people you added but have not added you, and fans are people who have friend requested you, but you have not added them...etc. Friends are mutual adds. You do have your privacy settings set so most people can not see your friends.
We have fixed the comment paging issue also.
Thanks for being patient with us. Please let us know if you run into any more issues.
-Mike (prop developer)
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slate11 months, 2 weeks ago
I did a spoof about Obama s*elling things with his logo on it amd it was considered spam because the few words like B- uy and others were there.
So if you ain't B- uying a debate on here you misght want to use another term,
I thought the community did a pretty good job of telling the staff about spammers. Now we have become the spam of we use the wrong words in a post.
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Blackacereturn11 months, 2 weeks ago
I would hate to see any of you guys go, we have had some good conversations and even fights on here. I am staying and I am asking all of you to do the same...this is just new and most people don't like change, however, if nospindave or libsrfun or Ag or any of my friends on the left were to leave this wouldn't be the same experience. Propeller please get this corrected and soon. My Plead to all of you it to give them at lease a month after all they have really been good to us and James deserves better he is really a good person...well he did get last weeks review totally wrong by not mentioning Tony Snow but where else can you rip a guy like James and have him say hi the next day and joke with you like nothing happened. NO I AM NOT BEING PAID...while i disagree with lots of you on here it doesn't mean I hate or dislike any of you. Truth is i enjoy each and every one of you. So please give it some time!
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chevydog11 months, 2 weeks ago
This is probably going to take some getting used to. Suspect that there are some "tricks" that nobody knows that will make it work better. The old site had it shortcomings-- randomized placement of posts, etc. ; but this verion seems to go out of its way to aggravate. Rather than an official bug-swatter, think that this will require unbanning DDT, an army of programmers, and several psychiatrists.
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markmawn211 months, 2 weeks ago
There is a distinct boundary where clever design, ingenuity and trendy graphics overshadows usability. I believe that boundary has been crossed.....
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alakazam11 months, 2 weeks ago
As previously pointed out by my prior post, that would be a very foolish attitude.
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tanglang11 months, 2 weeks ago
What can I say? This sucks. Over the last couple years I have grown to love propeller as well as it's members. Even the rabid libs that I would fight with to what seemed like no end. You will all be missed. I really hate that it has come to this but I have no interest in attempting to navigate this abortion of a news site. Anyone wishing to contact me knows what site I will now be on. So unless I find out that things here are once again back to normal, this will be my last post. And I will leave you with this.
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Mutainia11 months, 2 weeks ago
Will this take? Testing, testing? So far, NONE of my comments have stayed in the new Propeller.
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JamesMarcus11 months, 2 weeks ago
Okay, the commenting mechanism has now started to improve. I know that for a fact, because I was unable to comment myself until about 15 minutes ago. Now look for a revised and streamlined comment format, and the return of a few other cherished features. We really are working on this stuff, as fast as possible.
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Melbatross711 months, 2 weeks ago
Or as usual - could blame the "fundies".
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There really should have been some instructions as to purpose of design. It really seems a bit of a mess....BUT.......don't totally give up. I only had to take off half a day to figure the entry into this schumozel. I actually see some merits to the design and as with all new changes...WE HATE EM'.......but eventually get used to the different approach and deal with it. -
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canadianrancher5711 months, 2 weeks ago
I have never been a quitter and have grown to enjoy the comments and personalities of the propeller members , so to make it short and sweet I will not jump ship just yet and I hope that those who I have come to enjoy will make the effort as well. I thought that the site really sucked this morning but am trying to get familiar with the new format.
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Those who I have come to admire on here may not share beliefs on alot of topics but I feel most are strong enough to give this a try. For those of you who decide that this is not your thing I would like to thank you for your comments and ideas in the past and it has been indeed a pleasure to know you even if we have never met . I wish all of you the best in your lives and wish now that I had made an effort to get to know some of you better . Once Again to those who are leaving Thanks for the moment.-
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RickyDawkins11 months, 2 weeks ago
If every story on the FRONT page is ALWAYS a 10, can you PLEASE shrink the SIZE of the TEN or ELIMINATE it ?!!
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agrovertic11 months, 2 weeks ago
This is not good really not good,anyway criticism for building is good and encourage but if the criticism is something condemn it not healthy..come on grow guys
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damnedviper11 months, 2 weeks ago
come on tang just give it a few more days. see if it improves. you cannot abandon something you love so quickly. same is the case with me man.!
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JJman11 months, 2 weeks ago
I don't understand why they implemented this lame new design without asking the users! The administrators probably think that most Propeller users are aged 6-12. Otherwise I can't explain why they put that Cartoon-styled dork as a maskot of the website. Propeller users are serious people who don't need a cartoon design.
I believe that now most people will leave for other social websites that don't treat their visitors like children.
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cantfoolme11 months, 2 weeks ago
The problem is that the Propeller Site was on it's way to evolving beautifully into the perfect species . This new "re-start from scratch" is Creationism at it's worst.
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