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jeffery11 year, 5 months ago
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I know what you're saying about the spectrum of political thought, it is shown well here:
http://members.tripod.com/~GOPcapitalist/polsp.html
But the concept of rights transcends economics. Rights are the corollary to the obligations of moral beings. Because the right-wing does not believe that they have any obligation beyond satisfying their desire, rights do not exist except those that they agree exist.
Of course there are conservatives, not all conservatives are right-wing, that agree with the concept that it is not the majority, as expressed by government power, that creates rights but our obligations as moral beings and citizens.
It is the ignorant right-wing that requires rights to be explicitly enumerated in the constitution because they see no obligation to anyone or anything but themselves.
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Mdiar1 year, 5 months ago
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That's the thing though, I think we are disagreeing on how to phrase things. I like the idea behind the political compass in which its essentially the right wing is free market economics, devoid of liberties and the left is collectivism devoid of liberties as well. Then another axis is plotted (vertical this time) and they plot where you are on that. This vertical axis is based around fascism vs libertarianism. It doesn't quite codify everyone in a specific area. I think you are using right/left for what I use fascist/libertarian. Either way I'm an extreme lefty, whether it be a belief that the government has no authority over what I do (I'm not quite that extreme, but rather close at times) or the idea that wealth should be based more on need then greed. I think that its very divisive to declare right wing as authoritarian when there are plenty of people who will claim to be on the right, yet are very definitely not authoritarian. Ron Paul is a good example of this; the man is maybe very slightly authoritarian, but he's more libertarian then most of Europe (which has followed the US in its turn towards authoritarianism, back in the 80s). He, I believe, is very definitely a right winger. Just a fiscal right winger.
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Mdiar1 year, 5 months ago
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Okay one more thing then I think I'm going to leave it as I have some stuff to do.
The graph you provided seems highly American-centric. Of course, when discussing US politics, this is fine. For example, liberals actually believe in free market economics on par with Republicans outside of the United States. Our usage of "liberal" is fairly unique on the world stage. May I advise you to check out the basic idea behind the rather simple political compass?
http://www.****************.org/*********
This was done by a Brit I believe and seems like a good idea, at the very least.
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