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Posted By pc25 1 year, 4 months ago in NewsThe seeds of Obama’s undoing may have been sown under their very noses.
The media is gaga over Barack Obama’s international trip. They fawn, they cheer, and they marvel. But did they miss the big story? It wouldn’t be the first time in this (or a prior) election in which the MSM collectively missed the boat. And this time, it happened largely at the hands of some reporters who gave Obama just enough room to do himself some damage.
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pc251 year, 4 months ago
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First, The surge has worked despite Obama’s predictions. Indeed, his trip helped publicize just how startling has been the transition in Iraq from chaos to fledgling democracy...........The second impact of the trip stems from Obama’s mistake in assuming international acclaim and media adoration would impress the folks back home.
And finally, Obama’s mega-gaffe in snubbing the wounded troops in Germany (with the excuse he wouldn’t want to use campaign funds for such a visit) left even the MSM scratching their heads.
The elite liberal pundits and reporters are, after all, exceedingly poor gauges of public opinion on everything from the appeal of Ronald Reagan to abortion politics.
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hyperbola1 year, 4 months ago
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Frankly the only place the "surge" has worked is in the US corporate media. Otherwise, the main surge "effort" was to pay and arm insurgents that had been fighting us. These very same insurgents have recently called for renewal of the efforts to expel our troops and American soldiers have begun to die again in Anbar province.
A further direct result of the "surge" has been to weaken the US throughout the rest of the moslem world as the oil-colonialism intentions of the bushie zioncons have become ever more apparent.
The insurgents are waiting at the moment to see if Americans are smart enough to end a colonial occupation. If not, the violence will pick up again next year - with insurgents better armed by us for domestic political reasons. It's called shooting yourself in the foot.
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tiredofwhiners1 year, 4 months ago
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Backwards thinking. If the Americans pull out violence will increase. If they stay, violence will continue to diminish. You assume the terrorists are good guys and won't increase their tactics of terror to try and take over if we pull out. Hopefully the Iraqi military will subdue them.
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djn3nunez31 year, 4 months ago
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"Why wouldn’t he concede the surge had worked and he was wrong?"
Probably because the escalation of troop levels, while touted by the so called 'liberal media' as the 'surge' was only part of the change in the failed Bush "Stay the Course" strategy that has simmered down the Civil war in Iraq.
"It would have been as if Thomas Dewey in the 1944 presidential race declared that we never should have attempted D-day."
Another innane references to WWII as if Iraq was the same type of threat we faced in 1941. When authors start with the WWII comparison for GW's invasion and occupation of Iraq I know they are shills for the psuedo-cons.
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RedRiverJ1 year, 4 months ago
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FTA- The second impact of the trip stems from Obama’s mistake in assuming international acclaim and media adoration would impress the folks back home. Watching tens of thousands of Germans listen to his worldly appeal that “this is our [who is “our” exactly?] time,” voters back home may not be impressed. NOT is the key word.
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hyperbola1 year, 4 months ago
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Given how much debt we own to the rest of the world and that even bushie now says his eyes were bigger than his capability, we might be well off to listen to the rest of the world. They are not subject to the cradle-to-grave propaganda that has led to the loss of democracy and sanity in america.
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quackpot1 year, 4 months ago
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Not dealing appropriately with the rest of the world was Bush's largest mistake. Bush's policy of "I'm right and everybody else in the world better follow me" has only lead to disaster. Obama's visit signals a clear change from Bush's isolationist policies.
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fsev411 year, 4 months ago
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The only time we will truly know if the surge "worked" is when we leave Iraq and we see if the locals can really live together peacefully. The surge MAY have reduced violence but most certainly the surge of money to Sunni and Shiite militias to buy them off from killing each other was a significant factor. They still haven't been able to set up local elections which were supposed to have occur in October but have been put off till at least December and probably later.
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kobzikov1 year, 4 months ago
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There is actually a way to see if the surge worked without a full or even a partial withdrawal and I hope everyone who actually believes that the surge is responsible in the shift in violence will support the following measures.
1. US will stop paying Sunni and Shiite insurgents for not fighting. Strangely no one calls the policy of paying their enemy appeasement, while engaging in diplomacy with their enemy on the other hand IS appeasement. Weird.
2. US will remove the concrete slabs surrounding Shiite and Sunni neighborhoods. They aren't necessary anymore since the surge has clearly worked and now they just hinder local economy, freedom of movement and isolate the religious groups.
3. US will aid with refugee return to their old neighborhoods, after all their old neighborhoods are safe now, from what I hear safer then some neighborhoods in US.
All of these changes should not produce a significant spike in violence, since the surge was responsible for the shift in violence and US troops will still be there. In addition they will be quite beneficial to both Iraq and US.
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rimbaud1 year, 4 months ago
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Eventually, the Iraqis will come to an accomodation wuth each other, and with their neighbors, which will allow them ro live in peace and to prosper. Unfortunately that accomodation may not be something for whch we will have been happy to have sacrificed our children's lives and financial futures. For example, they will most certainly have close ties with Iran.
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simonsez1 year, 4 months ago
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I had to smile when he apologized for our so-called "torture", particularly since he was addressing the German populace.
Maybe our new President will travel to Germany and apologize for allowing this man (who looks different than previous Americans who have addressed the German People) to travel the world under the guise of representing us.
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kobzikov1 year, 4 months ago
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According to the last year's confidential report by International Red Cross as revealed in Jane Mayer's new book it is CATEGORICALLY torture.
I did not know that "we" supported a CIA kidnapping of German citizens and subsequent torture in Afghanistan, care to provide some kind of evidence for that?
I suppose if US government does something wrong it should never apologize for it, right?
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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PARIS (Reuters) - U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama called on Iran on Friday to move quickly to accept an offer of trade and technical incentives to halt its uranium enrichment program.
The media missed this story too:
Speaking at a joint news conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy in Paris, Obama said Iran should not wait for the next U.S. president to be elected to accept the offer from the six world powers.
"Iran should accept the proposals that President Sarkozy and the EU 3 plus 3 are presenting now. Don't wait for the next president because the pressure, I think, is only going to build," he said.
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Teech1 year, 4 months ago
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The only damage Obama has caused has been to the presidential hopes of an old, tired, senile, bitter fool of a man whose only vision is a vision of war, inflation, unemployment, high energy prices and the blind continuation of the despicable policies of the most failed Presidency in the history of the U.S.
The rest of the free world has known that G.W. Bush is the greatest danger that freedom has ever faced and the best friend terrorism around the world has ever known.
Good riddance to this war criminal and may he enjoy the rest of his miserable, small, idiotic life in South America, Dubai, or wherever war criminals crawl away to these days.
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sinophil491 year, 4 months ago
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The surge is simply an acknowledgment by Bush that he has made horrible decisions up to this point. The entire invasion was a colossal mistake of historical magnitude. There were no WMD's. Notice the administration no longer refers to that at all anymore.
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Then if Bush wanted to invade, why do it w/ an under-manned, under supplied force?
Then, in retrospect, the decision to disband the parliament, the Baath party, the army, and the police forces was absolutely idiotic. There was nothing left of the infrastructure to hold the country together. There were insufficient forces to control the borders and prevent infiltration of insurgents.
All the pre-war assumptions about the joyous welcome our forces would receive and the use of oil income to fund the reconstruction proved to be completely naive and erroneous.
Let's not forget the 1.2 million Iraqi deaths and the 4 million refugees. The daily fear of bombings in the markets, weddings, government buildings, embassies, any large gaterings.
So any success of the Surge is not a "victory." Rather it is penance for Bush's mistakes, payment for our mistakes, an attempt to return thier lives to normalcy.
If a child breaks an expensive ming vase, then laboriously and meticulously glues all the shards and pieces back together, that is not a reason to congratulate that person. HE SHOULD NOT HAVE BROKEN THE VASE IN THE FIRST PLACE. After gluing that vase together, that child should still be punished for his transgression.
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sinophil491 year, 4 months ago
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The surge is simply an acknowledgment by Bush that he has made horrible decisions up to this point. The entire invasion was a colossal mistake of historical magnitude. There were no WMD's. Notice the administration no longer refers to that at all anymore.
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Then if Bush wanted to invade, why do it w/ an under-manned, under supplied force?
Then, in retrospect, the decision to disband the parliament, the Baath party, the army, and the police forces was absolutely idiotic. There was nothing left of the infrastructure to hold the country together. There were insufficient forces to control the borders and prevent infiltration of insurgents.
All the pre-war assumptions about the joyous welcome our forces would receive and the use of oil income to fund the reconstruction proved to be completely naive and erroneous.
Let's not forget the 1.2 million Iraqi deaths and the 4 million refugees. The daily fear of bombings in the markets, weddings, government buildings, embassies, any large gaterings.
So any success of the Surge is not a "victory." Rather it is penance for Bush's mistakes, payment for our mistakes, an attempt to return thier lives to normalcy.
If a child breaks an expensive ming vase, then laboriously and meticulously glues all the shards and pieces back together, that is not a reason to congratulate that person. HE SHOULD NOT HAVE BROKEN THE VASE IN THE FIRST PLACE. After gluing that vase together, that child should still be punished for his transgression.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 4 months ago
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Of course, what Cons fail to mention is that we are BRIBING insurgents not to shoot at our kids. There was a surge in payouts that explains why the surge "worked."
Wake up, Cons, the Iraqis are bleeding us. They'll be good little allies as long as we keep propping them up.
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Spinward1 year, 4 months ago
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Your reply was not very coherent. Too much beer.
How does it taste to know we are paying to save lives? Is that the question?
Uhhh... well... we pay the military to save lives, we pay firemen, to save lives, we pay the North Koreans to save lives, Obama wants to pay Iran to save lives.... it's standard operating procedure, no?
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Spinward1 year, 4 months ago
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By the way... it gripes me when people demean the men and women who serve our country by calling them "kids". As a U.S. Marine, I am not your "kid". I am willing to lose my life to protect you, you could at least give me the respect of calling me a "man", or just call me, "Marine". That would show me the respect I believe I am due. Thanks.
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thaw1 year, 4 months ago
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i'm sick of op-eds.
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all they are, are rants to ignore half of the story. one sides hate filled rantings of misserable bitter people. what ever happened to "news" stories?
all the surge has done, is delay the inevidable. paying the insurgents to not fight?
plus the extra cost of the surge, and oh yea, how much are the insurgents saving by not fighting temperalily? eventually, troops will be reduced, and guess what will happen? uhhh....
the fighting will increase, the the us will be farther in debt. surprize!
and can someone PLEASE find a news story.
maybe prop. should have a "op-ed" section.
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