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Posted By pc25 1 year, 4 months ago in NewsThe Communist Party Of The United States wants to elect Barack Hussein Obama as our President.
The endorsement as it appears on their web site.
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pc251 year, 4 months ago
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And why has their endorsement been so studiously ignored by our watchdog media?
(Imagine if a similarly storied ultra-right lunatics had endorsed John McCain? Though, of course, there is no group like that on the right.)
Still, won’t it be pleasant finally to have a President that the same hard-line Communists who supported Joseph Stalin can support?
This is the kind of “unity” Mr. Obama will bring us.-
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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Big deal. Al-Qaeda has endorsed John McCain for President--ALSO "studiously ignored by our watchdog media."
John Hagee, a similary storied ultra-right lunatic, HAS endorsed John McCain as well.
Still, won't it be pleasant finally to have a President that the same hard-line terrorists who've gained so many converts and so much attention under BUSH can support? -
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.juancole.com/2008/05/zawahiri-endorses-mccain-plan-to-bomb.html
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Natureboy1 year, 4 months ago
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"BO makes Hillery look like a conservative."
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They are actually both corporatists, as is McCain. They are just talking different horsecrap to woo their respective support bases in an election year.
After the election, we will remain in Iraq, gas will keep getting more expensive, working class people will continue to see their earnings erode and their savings evaporate.
You can take that to the bank.
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Spinward1 year, 4 months ago
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Neocon (noun):
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A neocon is a mythical beast that stands 40 feet tall, has green hair and teeth, and tramples villagers that are trying to sit peacefully in a circle smoking medical marijuana.
The neocon is evil to it's core and usually votes Republican because it reads from the bottom up and Republican falls under Democratic Socialist on most ballots. This, in-turn, makes Republicans evil by default.
Sadly most liberals have been reading their own press releases for so long that they have actually deluded themselves into believing in this mythical beast, so they have taken to hiding the marijuana in locations and items typically belonging to other people.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 4 months ago
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Thank you; too many good people here to ignore even though I think this new format sucks, but hey we can survive 8 years of shrub then all is possible.
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Thanks again friend (that is if I can figure out how to add all my deleted friends) :-) :-) :-) -
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jovial1 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ez2C4GwqE4
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I guess it's the same reason they ignored this endorsement. Think about it!-
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silvera1 year, 4 months ago
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As a little intellectual exercise, PC25, why don't you give us a brief description of your take on Communism as a political philosophy. Why do you think it's so bad and, by extension, why we should all get the shivers because CPUSA endorses Obama over McCain? You seem to be an expert, I'd like to hear what you have to say.
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On a related note, why wouldn't Al Qaada endorse McCain? As with Bush, he'd be the biggest, most successful recruiting tool they could ever ask for.-
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protoham1 year, 4 months ago
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Communism always leads to a Dictatorship. It can not exist in a large group as pure communism because it is counter to human nature, and eventually the Government will have to come down on the people.
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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Under communism the state owns everything.
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When East Germany was freed, a huge problem was that there were no deeds to property becasue the state owned everything.
The childen of an East German friend were medical doctors, who worked if they wanted to, and were paid salaries.
The only people who were wealthy were the communist party leaders. They had the only cars, the only vacation houses, and could shop in special stores were the ordinary people could not see what they were buying.-
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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Under communism the state owns everything.
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When East Germany was freed, a huge problem was that there were no deeds to property because the state owned everything.
The children of an East German friend were medical doctors, who worked if they wanted to, and were paid salaries.
The only people who were wealthy were the communist party leaders. They had the only cars, the only vacation houses, and could shop in special stores were the ordinary people could not see what they were buying.
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Tangent0011 year, 4 months ago
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"And why has their endorsement been so studiously ignored by our watchdog media?"
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Because it's just more guilt-by-association claptrap? Because candidates have no control over who endorses them? Because nobody really gives a rat's a$$ what communists think? Take your pick. -
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pc251 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.cpusa.org/
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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What federal takeover of private companies are you talking about? Obama has NEVER spoken of nationalizing any companies.
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Income redistribution is what BUSH has been doing for the past 7-1/2 years. FROM THE POOR TO THE RICH.
Eliminating Bush's tax cuts helps to reverse that income redistribution.-
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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For pete's sake, protoham. You have a problem with taxing the windfall profits of big oil and giving SOME of that money to citizens in the form of government services. PAYING for things the government ALREADY BORROWS to do.
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Did you have a problem with taxing citizens' income and giving it to big oil, huge telecommunications conglomerates, and (oh yeah) the mercenaries--I mean private contractors--fighting our wars for us?
Regardless, TAXING a corporation--especially one that pays a rate close to only 7.5%--is NOT the same as assuming all control of that corporation, as Chevez has done.
Get a grip.
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beavith11 year, 4 months ago
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that's ridiculous. the top 5% of all earners pay 50% of all the personal income tax collected.
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what do you think would be fair? the top 5% paying 66%, 80% or 90% of everyone's taxes?
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Tangent0011 year, 4 months ago
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"Income redistribution counts."
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Except when the income is going from the poorest to the richest...
"Federal takeover of private companys counts."
Then Bush is a socialist, since the Federal Government took over private security companies to form the TSA.-
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY
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"The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America's economic mal-distribution!"
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
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highlndr1 year, 4 months ago
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"And no, reversing tax cuts on the wealthiest individuals does NOT count as socialism"----no, it sounds more like Communism. As Karl Marx so famously stated: From each according to his ability, to each accourding to his need. The "wealthy" already pay the huge majority of the income taxes in America. At what level, percentage wise, do you deem to be fair?
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 4 months ago
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Income taxes are socialistic on the face of it . Nothing to do with communism. And nothing to do with Democrats.
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So what are you proposing instead? That people who make less money pay a disproportionate amount of taxes ? It's absurd. -
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jovial1 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ez2C4GwqE4
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It seems that other groups are doing their endorsements as well.-
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jovial1 year, 4 months ago
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Prove it! The point of my message is not whether the KKK endorses McCain or not. It's totally out of McCain's control. Just like the communist party endorsing Obama is out of his control. He didn't actively seek out that endorsement. McCain did actively seek out Hagee's endorsement, however.
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jovial1 year, 4 months ago
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Prove it! The point of my message is not whether the KKK endorses McCain or not. It's totally out of McCain's control. Just like the communist party endorsing Obama is out of his control. He didn't actively seek out that endorsement. McCain did actively seek out Hagee's endorsement, however.
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joe4worldruler1 year, 4 months ago
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Well, the communist party is a member of the left. So, logically, they would support the member with the views closest to theirs even though there is a HUGE difference between Obama's views and those of the average Communist. It would not make sense for the communist party to support McCain, whose views are those of the right.
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BB641 year, 4 months ago
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He was talking about the history of communism. In Germany Marx and Engels. The modern history taught in our public schools forgets that the basis of communism was rooted in Germany. Today, you say Germany and they think Nazi. Germany was the birthplace for two of the worst types of dictatorships of our time.
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Lurch1 year, 4 months ago
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and logically the fascists support McCain because he is closer to their position.
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But since AQ also supports McCain and they are actually a danger to our nation as witnessed by 3,000 dead on 9/11 and the 4,000 plus dead in Bush`s War in Iraq, I would say McCain has some explaining to do.
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grateful1 year, 4 months ago
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Well duh! Did anyone of the "Obama supporters" know that there was a Che Guevara flag in his campaign headquarters in Huston Texas?!
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Oh wait, no, they didn't know, they were too busy standing in front of their full length mirrors admiring how cool they looked in their new "Obama Hope" t-shirts.
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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Seriously, dude. You might want to look up some biographical information on Che Guevara. You're at a computer--it's an easy Google.
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Che was born in 1928. He was 5 years old when Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, 10 when Hitler annexed the Sudetenland, and 11 when WWII started. -
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spkguy1 year, 4 months ago
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One word for this post. "PATHETIC!" ENOUGH SAID! Who's next to endorse Obama the ACLU or the NAACP or COF or the FDC or CAPP but don't leave these people out of the loop!
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The MAO,CAO,SLACC,RAS,DEC.ATAC.IEC,DPC and finaly the FGSC Faculty Governance Steering Committee. Chairs of COF, SLAAC, FDC, MAO, CAPP, and COA
meet regularly to decide which committee tackles what. They’ve also been working on a proposal,commonly referred to as “the Faculty Sanity Initiative,” to simplify the committee structure.
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protoham1 year, 4 months ago
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It should work if you view this story and don't prop it then it is an automatic sink. But I don't think that is how it works. Yes they should have a sink button or something. But this seem to be the liberal attitude " we don't want to hurt anyone's self esteem.
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nostalgia1 year, 4 months ago
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This shouldn't surprise anyone
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Look into Obama's background for yourself - start with Obama's own books:
In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature
Obama admits having relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA He calls hin "Frank" in Dreams From My Father
"Frank" and Obama developed a very close relationship in Hawaii. "Frank" gave Obama advice on his career path
Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, noted evidence that "Frank" was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.
Davis was a member of the CPUSA as far back as 1951
In the summer/fall 2003 issue of African American Review, James A. Miller of George Washington University reviews a book by John Edgar Tidwell, a professor at the University of Kansas, about Davis's career, and notes, "In Davis's case, his political commitments led him to join the American Communist Party during the middle of World War II-even though he never publicly admitted his Party membership." Tidwell is an expert on the life and writings of Davis.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/-
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Mulder1 year, 4 months ago
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If none of us ever read a book that as 'dangerous,' nor had a friend who was 'different,' or never joined an organization that advocated 'change,' we would all be just the kind of people Joe McCarthy (or pc25) wants.
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donald511 year, 4 months ago
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..and the right wingers wanted Patton to take his Corps and attack the Russians and continue the war... while Eisenhower said the corruptness of the Russian empire would lead to its own collapse... as it did during Reagan's tenure! Repugs, truly the party of torture and needless war!
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jovial1 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ez2C4GwqE4
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Here's the link again tangy. Take a look this time it might prevent you from inserting your foot in your mouth.-
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aceofspades11 year, 4 months ago
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This comment shows not only the paranoia of some members ,but, also the level that Propeller has fallen to. The vast majority of logical, intelligent posters have been driven away by this new format. A few weeks into it & it smells like ripe fish.
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There are even duplicate postings of the same stories e.g. - Rice says America safe with Obama - posted twice. I feel like a smoker trying to kick the habit by smoking vile substances, maybe that's why I keep coming back here occasionally.
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buckncindykill1 year, 4 months ago
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Yeah, lets all just have a kumbaya, circle jerk love fest for Obama and liberals here on Propeller. All dissenters need not reply. After all, anyone opposed to your point of view are smear merchants out to destroy the true ideology that is best for everyone; liberalism. No wonder libs/hollywood love Castro and Chavez. They control the media and the press. That way we can all be puppet, mind numbed robots. Good bye freedom, hello totalitarianism.
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Natureboy1 year, 4 months ago
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"No wonder libs/hollywood love Castro and Chavez. They control the media and the press."
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So Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez control the American press? Please explain for us the mechanism by which they do so.
It may help if you set the bong down first.
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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No, they endorse McCain because following Bush's policies will increase their power. Those policies are their best recruiting tool.
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And then of course, there's the KKK's endorsement of McCain, with the link to the video generously posted by jovial.
But as has already been pointed out over and over again, the candidates have NO control over who endorses them, unless they actively seek out such endorsements. The way McCain begged for Hagee's endorsement for a year, for instance.
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antibrainwasher1 year, 4 months ago
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How the GOP Got Stuck On Stupid
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Imagine the ignorant fast-talking and opinionated schoolyard bullies and jerks many of us encountered back in grade school. Now, they’re all grown up. That pretty much describes the bulk of political parasites that have infested the Republican Party over the last 20-plus years. The rhetoric and integrity of this once Grand Old Party has become deeply infected by some of the most morally bankrupt political and intellectual hacks in history-
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djn3nunez31 year, 4 months ago
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So he must be a communist right?
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That is the type of (ill)logic that has Americans dumbed down.
So, if NAMBLA really endorses McCain, does that mean he's a pedophile?
“We believe that Senator McCain will be a great president. He’s a father figure who shares our values of family, national security and service to others,” said NAMBLA president Deiter Schaussen. “But our endorsement of John McCain doesn’t mean we dislike the boyish Senator Barack Obama. In fact, we really really like Obama and would like to take him out for some ice cream.”
Surprisingly, Obama accept their invitation. “You know what, I really really like ice cream, and I would love to have some ice cream with anyone who loves children…Who knows maybe I can swing their endorsement my way.” After being told by his staff why NAMBLA really really loves children, Obama reneged on the ice cream date adding, “I really really hate the First Amendment sometimes, I really really do.”
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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While the media elite goes after Vets for Freedom for making a TV buy for John McCain, they're giving Barack Obama a free ride as he surfs a wave of PAC money to the Democratic nomination, a wave that, if anything, is nearing tsunami proportions despite his boasts that he doesn't accept donations from PACs.
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The political committees of just one such entity -- which according to Obama's own website, he "begged" for their support -- dwarf the Vets' $1 million ad buy. According to the Center for Responsible Politics, the Service Employees International Union spent over $9 million during a crucial three month period to help the Big O secure the Democrats' nomination.
And not only did SEIU PACs spend money for Obama at a breathtaking rate, they did so in ways that could turn federal regulations governing such expenditures on their ear.
FEC rules require that such so-called "independent expenditures" by political committees be limited to communications, such as the ubiquitous TV spots and newspaper ads to which we have all become accustomed, but SEIU's PACs have paid for such campaign essentials as door-to-door canvassing for Obama, voter identification and registration, and even bus rental and food for pro-Obama rallies.
Obama can hardly claim ignorance of SEIU's free-spending M.O. A September 17, 2007 article in The Atlantic says of Obama,
"he is a longtime friend of Chicago's SEIU Local 880 and worked closely with the union as an organizer and later as a state legislator."
"I've spent my entire adult life working with SEIU. I'm not a newcomer to this. I didn't suddenly discover SEIU on the campaign trail."
Obama’s International Socialist Connections
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 14, 2008
Obama's socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat.
Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the "champions" of "Chicago's democratic left" and a long-time socialist activist. Obama's stint as a "community organizer" in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.-
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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Are you trying to say that labor unions are Communist, Klarissa? (I don't believe they have those in the U.S.S.R., China, North Korea or Cuba.)
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abntv1 year, 4 months ago
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From a Washingto Post article
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Two researchers say they found documents in Soviet archives that show the late waterfront union leader Harry Bridges was a member of the U.S. Communist Party.
Bridges, who acknowledged communist sympathies but denied party membership, was on a list of people elected to the Central Committee of the Communist Party USA at its 1936 convention, the two said. -
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Wolfie20071 year, 4 months ago
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No, Beau, labor unions weren't allowed in the USSR, China, etc. but that didn't mean they that communists didn't organize and take over unions in the United States. They worked very successfully with the mafia to organize because both parties were into criminal operations so they didn't get in each others way, too much.
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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I've never said some unions don't have their problems--organized crime is one of them.
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But without unions, unless you're a business owner, you'd be screwed.
You'd be working days as long as your employer wanted, possibly with no vacation, no benefits, no holidays. You'd be forced to buy your goods from the company store. They could pay you as little as they wanted, fire you at will for any reason.
You may say there are good business owners out there who'd never do such things to their employees. But that's what they were doing before unions. And in today's highly competitive environment (you know, the one big business always talks about to get handouts from the feds and as an excuse for layoffs), even the good business owners might feel the same pressure to cut costs.
Are you a business owner?
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amazed1 year, 4 months ago
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Probably because you still have people like my mother and sister, who when they voice their opinions, are very conservative politically, but just KNOW that the Republicans are only for the rich guys and the dems are the true friend of the little people -- this in spite of the fact that they are against 85% of the actual platform of the democratic party -- like gay marriage, and giving illegals drivers licenses, and high taxes, and easy to get welfare, etc.
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But, they would die before they would vote for anyone other than a Democrat. If the dems actually merged with the socialist thereby openly admitting their true goals, many of these knee-jerk dems would bolt.
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abntv1 year, 4 months ago
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Obamas teen mentor....Frank Marshall Davis (CPUSA member)
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The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his poetry and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just Frank." Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media
"Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979" Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)-
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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Seriously? You're worried about the spread of Communism?
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Do you really believe Obama, after 10 years of government service and longer than that in public life, has some kind of secret Communist agenda to turn the U.S. into the Soviet Union? Most of the largest Communist countries are gone.
We have a new enemy now, remember? Your fearless leaders have given you a new scapegoat--Islam.
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abntv1 year, 4 months ago
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Response to upper and lower comments
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I am and other people should also be concerned about the spread of Communism....
I think Obama is influenced by Communist thinking.
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 4 months ago
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The IRaq war is the biggest SOCIALISTIC program in the history of manking. Why are we paying BILLIONS A WEEK to help a nation become something different. Who do you think is paying for it? YOU ARE.
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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Extreme leftism AND rightism leads to dictators and totalitarianism. That's because extremism in all forms breeds the will to unadulterated power, to gain it at any cost to justice.
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Though I'm not a communist, I'd rather take my chances with someone with some communist influences than someone with some corporatist ones. Emphasis on "some," in both instances.
Those on this thread in such an uproar about this story are going WAY overboard. One endorsement from a radical group on either side does not mean the candidate subscribes to that position.
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/13346/ (People's Weekly World)
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"WHAT’S ON. . .Portland, Ore.
Aug. 8, Fri., 7 p.m.
A Hard Rain Fell: struggles for civil rights in the ’60s and their meaning today. A forum featuring union activist Ann Montague on Bayard Rustin & gay liberation, union organizer Bob Novick on the legacy of the ’60s, & CPUSA national leader Jarvis Tyner on connecting the ’60s to now. Sponsored by SEIU Local 503’s Civil & Human Rights Committee. At SEIU hall, 6401 SE Foster Rd. Info: contact Bob Rossi at 503-581-1505 x 141. -
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Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago
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http://theunionnews.blogspot.com/2008/07/collectivist-barack-gets-cpusa-nod.html
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Announcing the “Frank Marshall Davis roundtable for change” on the Obama website, Maki, a Democratic Party activist and casino worker organizer, explained, “Reading Barack Obama’s book I learned about his mentor, Frank Marshall Davis.” He went on, “Of course, as we all know, Frank Marshall Davis was a Communist and he had a very good understanding of the underlying source of problems which all too often goes unstated and unchallenged and remains hidden because of the high fear-factor level in this country; I am referring to capitalism?a thoroughly rotten system. Frank Marshall Davis also understood through his thorough studies of the situation that socialism provided the only workable alternative to capitalism.”
Saying that he has been “active in the Minnesota DFL and the Democratic Party most of my life,” Maki still wants to know about the specifics of the “change” Obama is promising.
Maki goes on to say, “There really isn’t much for us to learn about ‘change’ from Obama, but there is quite a bit to be gleaned from the writings of Frank Marshall Davis and I thank Barack Obama for bringing him to my attention… now I can say that Frank Marshall Davis is in many ways my mentor, too.” -
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http://www.cpusa.org/article/view/858/, Special District Meeting on African American Equality
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Special District Meeting on African American Equality and Building the Communist Party and Young Communist League Chicago, IL September 30, 2007
Opening Remarks By John Bachtell, IL District Organizer . . .
This was also reflected in the historic election of Barack Obama. Once again Obama’s campaign reflected the electoral voting unity of the African American community, but also the alliances built with several key trade unions, and forces in the Latino and white communities.
It also reflected a breakthrough among white voters.
In the primary, Obama won 35% of the white vote and 7 north side wards, in a crowded field. During the general election he won every ward in the city and all the collar counties. This appeal has continued in his presidential run.
The 2007 municipal elections are the sharpest expression yet of the re-emergence of the labor-African American alliance and its inherent power.
It is reflective of a broader independent electoral coalition that includes our Party and YCL, which is in the early stages of being rebuilt. The Party needs to keep our eye on this development and foster it in every way possible. -
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"Actual speech:
'We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.'
"Basically, what Obama is talking about is creating a Committee for the Defense of Liberal Ideology and Political correctness funded by a half trillion taxpayer dollars."
That's a HUGE leap the "babalublog" is making.
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