McCain's "Cross in the Dirt" story stolen from Solzhenitsyn »
Posted By ameliog 1 year, 2 months ago in News
It just sounded so fake and so contrived, so I did a little research about it. Someone on here said it sounded like a scene from Ben-Hur, so I did a google search about Ben-Hur and cross in the sand and such. No dice. But I searched around a little bit more and here is what I found. A story about Alexander Solzhenitsyn from his times in the Soviet Gulags.
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Endoscopy1 year, 2 months ago
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ROTFLMAO
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There are two symbols that Christians use to secretly let someone know they are a Christian. In Roman times the symbol was a fish. The word fish in Greek made an acronym of a phrase describing Jesus. Today you can see that on cars etc.
The more modern symbol is the cross. How else in an area where people can be killed for being Christian could you have a guard let a prisoner know. Both countries were at the time communist and Christians were "reeducated" or killed.
The commonality of the stories only reinforces that they are probably true. Only the symbol and no words that could be overheard.
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bigurn1 year, 2 months ago
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I'd say this:
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FWIW, the story appears in McCain's 1999 "Faith Of My Fathers", although I have no idea whether McCain told it earlier. This would have been shortly after Solzhenitsyn's book came out. What are the odds that McCain read the book, stole the story, and inserted in his own book for *no gain whatsoever*?
And this: what are the odds that two people in the same century drew a cross in the ground? Gosh, hundreds of millions of Christians. Millions of interactions with other cultures. Yep, sounds fishy that anyone would draw a cross in the earth. Except that literature is full of stories like this; drawing crosses in the ground appears to be more common than anyone thinks.
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smithichie1 year, 2 months ago
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Wow, this could prove devastating if true.
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At least one of McCain's captors have come forward, where is this Christian guard who supposedly gave McCain such strength? I would think McCain would have perhaps sought such an individual out on one of his trips to Vietnam as a Senator. If McCain's campaign can find former captors willing to vote for McCain, surely finding this Christian guard can be done.-
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Charlson1 year, 2 months ago
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McCain hates gooks, his words, not mine.
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"The use of a racist slur can't be acceptable for any national leader, regardless of his background," said Diane Chin, executive director of the San Francisco-based Chinese for Affirmative Action. "For someone running for president not to recognize the power of words is a problem."
This word is to asian-Americans tantamount to using the N word. -
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jordan111 year, 2 months ago
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ameliog1 year, 2 months ago
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I'm not sure if he lifted this from Solzhenitsyn when he told his inspirational story at the Saddleback Forum last night. The article suggests this could be the case, but at this point it's still just a matter of conjecture. At the time he said it, something sounded very familiar about the tale, as though McCain was copying and pasting the answer. His response to the question of who he would seek advice from had a similar feel.
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ind061 year, 2 months ago
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I find it hard to believe that Sen. McCain would take chances with utterly destroying his strongest suit in this election. He would have to be monumentally stupid and he is not. My guess is that this is a coincidence.
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Expect moral indignation from the right who will be aghast that politics can sink so low as to telling lies about a candidate. -
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Searchbeam1 year, 2 months ago
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Telling fake stories, lying and cheating is nothing new to McPain! He has done this on a steady diet.
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His mindset is still in the cold war period when there were no instant media, and reporters showed a degree of reverence to this guy. Those days of intellectually lazy journalists may be coming to an end. The fittest will survive, and if MSM journalists have to survive in intensely competitive world, they will have to roll up their sleeves and start digging deep and dumping deference for some so-called "straight talkers".
McPain has shown his ability to lie on several occasions - especially the one about him supporting Martin Luther King, Jr. National Holiday!
Those of us who have a long memory remember his stances very well.
His mea culpa about his moral failure about his first marriage was a classic McPain moment!
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AntiNeoCon1 year, 2 months ago
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Yeah, McLame's down in florida now quacking his american hero bs at the VFW. I wish he would attend our VFW meeting so he could see some real heros. He sure knows how to play to the "bleeding hearts" doesn't he. If he wants us to forget his unfaithfulness that happened long time ago, then we should probably forget all his BS war stories too.
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Progressive1 year, 2 months ago
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The military families are on to McCain's BS:
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Hobe1 year, 2 months ago
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spkguy, in all do resp, 40 thousand friends?? I Think Not....
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Sounds like you may be in need of some serious mental health examinations, just like the War monger Nut Case John McCain....
Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran????? Will be in Iraq for 100 years, these are Jonh McCain's WORDS... McCain a 26 year corrupt politician is not fit to lead anything considering mental outlook and age. This NUt should not be able to send American Men and Women into a sencless WAR....
Vote McCain OUT OF Office and help America.... however spkguy if you want to follow this NUT, have a glass of Koolaid and follow the NUTS.... -
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Bradgrp1 year, 2 months ago
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This just shows how desparate this man is. There is simply no way that such a coincidence could happen without Mccain mentioniing that it also happens to Solzhenitsyn. I've always said that "MCCAIN TRIES TO HOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOSTAGE WITH HIS POW STATUS." A person who is truly proud of their military service does not wear it on their sleeves. Like myself, proud veterans put their service away and celebrate it when its appropriate or display it only when asked to do so. We don't answer questions about economics by referring to our military service. That's asinine!! And Mccoo-coo-cain shouldn't be doing it either. Proud veterans like myself, are not beholden to Mccains BS about his military service. His POW time was just his the luck of the draw. That's how it is and that's all it is. He needs to stop lying about it and stop using it to brandish like a loaded weapon. Its unpatriotic and dishonorable.
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not2needy1 year, 2 months ago
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When will any of us Libbies learn!! Will we never get it through our thick heads that anything the cons do is God like? They have the patent on Christianity, and any wrong doing is immediately forgiven, because as soon as they GET CAUGHT, they ask for God's forgiveness. Funny thing though.... they don't feel the need to ask for said forgiveness, until they are caught! hmmm
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Technically speaking, even a large Obama victory would not be a realignment. Realignments are moments when there are broad shifts in the electorate, and in 2008 there will be no significant shifts in the partisan voter preference of any demographic group. Important swing groups such as white Catholics, suburban women, Latinos, seculars, Independents and working-class whites are not likely to demonstrate any large, sudden or long-term shifts in allegiance from one party to the other. Instead, an Obama victory would simultaneously be comeuppance to a forty-year-old conservative strategy of scapegoating minorities and the realization of long-term demographic trends that finally allow those minorities collectively to achieve majority status. Relative to his national levels of support, Obama will receive pretty much the same percentage of support from virtually all demographic groups that previous, defeated Democratic nominees such as Michael Dukakis and John Kerry received. The difference will be that, in 2008, those groups will be large enough to win a national election
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