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Posted By jovial 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsDespite numerous attempts at clarification from Barack Obama's campaign, media outlets continue to perpetuate myths about the Democratic candidate being a Muslim. Just recently, Jerome Corsi, author of "The Obama Nation," alleged that the Illinois senator received Islamic instruction as a child. Meanwhile, a new national study by the Pew Research Center shows that 12 percent of the country still believes Obama is a Muslim. For more information, take a look at the American News Project video below.
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Dionys1 year, 3 months ago
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Socialist? Sure. I guess if spending government money on your average citizen instead of shoving it into the pockets of failing corporations is socialism.
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But lying through your teeth to get your person in office? The end justifies the means? Just shows your moral and ethical bankruptcy.-
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BB641 year, 3 months ago
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Dionys, If you read his policies, he's clearly in the socialist court. Since he's played the Chicago political stage, perhaps he's closer to a communist. What yours is the state's which I control and what's mine since I'm a party boss is mine. He's big into supporting reductions in my take home pay to cover the costs of those who won't or don't work.
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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lmao. BB, if you read his policies you would clearly see he is a true-blue American man-of-the-people who is going to stop this country's slide into the gutter, or at least try.
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You would prefer McCain's fascist entitlement programs for the rich and cronies over somebody who will actually help the 90% of america that earns less than $112K/year?
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cushi1 year, 3 months ago
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Unlike you, he is willing to pay the extra taxes because he understands that although life is "good" for him, it's NOT GOOD for most Americans and they need help!
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His attitude is selfless, while yours is SELFISH!! Therein lies the difference!
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Endoscopy1 year, 3 months ago
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I read what is on his web site to tell people what he wants to accomplish. His proposals will do big time spending. Deficit now will look small. To offset this he will have to raise taxes to the level that will make Clinton's biggest ever tax hike seem small.
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In other words - spend, spend, spend, spend, tax, tax, tax.
Tax companies big time. That way everybody gets to pay the hidden taxes while they are "punishing" those evil companies for having a profit. The problem is that companies really don't pay the taxes. Their customers pay their taxes.
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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I love how anytime the government wants to help the citizens at all, you NeoCons scream "Socialism, socialism!"
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I guess police forces are socialistic too. And hospitals. I mean, if people practiced "personal responsibility" they would not commit crimes and would be able to heal themselves.
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Endoscopy1 year, 3 months ago
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The problem is where to draw the line. President Johnson declared war on poverty in order to build the "Great Society". We have spent trillions doing that. One welfare program after the other so now it is the biggest part of spending. Did we defeat poverty in the US or lower the % of population considered in poverty? NO
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With that backdrop why add more and more entitlements to fix a problem where so much money is being spent already. Liberals look at a problem and their ONLY solution is to throw money at it. Good intentions in the war on poverty have cause a major problem in various areas. One area is what ADC has done to the poor blacks. In the early 60's they were close nit families. Now the family structure has been torn apart. The rules of ADC say that to get benefits there can be no man living there. So girls that got pregnant could get a place to live, food,etc. Others saw this and figured out to get out from under mom and dads control all they had to do was get pregnant. Then the more kids the more they got as aid. This became a way of life for generations now. Girls having babies and boys getting "notches" for fathering children without any responsibility. This is ghetto life these days. I had my face rubbed in it while I was a foster parent in the Detroit metro area.
What Liberals never think about is how people change their behavior in order to get the handouts. Unintended consequences. This causes disruption in the fabric of our society.
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dissent1 year, 3 months ago
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"So if I can call him a Muslim and make him lose 12% of the vote, well that is how politics is played."
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and that clearly explains to you folks how and why an immoral imbecile like george dubya bush can become president of the united states of america..... twice. :|
protoham you are a disgrace. it's funny though that you should be so honest about being dishonest-
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protoham1 year, 3 months ago
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It has to make you wonder doesn't it? I have noticed both sides of this debate spinning everything that is said by the other candidate. The true master of this art was Slick Willy. I have learned. I know exactly what will happen if BO gets elected, taxes will go up, my take home pay will go down to pay for his socialist programs.
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Remember the Government never gives you anything that wasn't yours in the first place. And when they give you these entitlements they attach strings.-
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GWHayduke1 year, 3 months ago
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-"Remember the Government never gives you anything that wasn't yours in the first place"-
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Spoken like a true child of ENTITLEMENT. Funny that you would disparriage the term, despite thinking that you are entitled to protection from invading hoardes, roads, school systems, freedom etc etc.
Dont you REMEMBER?!?!? FREEDOM AINT FREE!!
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quackpot1 year, 3 months ago
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So why would you possibly vote for the SPEND SPEND SPEND Republicans?
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If your answer is because the Republicans are borrowing against our children's futures to pay for the spending SHAME ON YOU.
If your answer is because the Republians just print more money to pay for the spending thereby devaluating the dollar SHAME ON YOU,-
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super-sunshine1 year, 3 months ago
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Oh no... they just borrow it from China.... Cause to have more of your value owned by a Communist country spells NeoCon values... Now note that isn't your average Republican... it is the hard cor neocons that ran this country in the ground. All the way down to selling out to toture that was used by..oh China....
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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So why would you possibly vote for the SPEND SPEND SPEND Republicans?
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Both parties spend too much if you ask me.
The answer to your question, we didn't vote 2 years ago and the Democrats won both houses for the very reason that the Republicans that were in charge indeed spent way too much money.
I hopr that clears it up for you a bit.
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Ratskii1 year, 3 months ago
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protoham, you are using the the argument that the ends justifies the means. The great problem with it is that the means one uses to reach an end affects the end that you reach. If you lie to bring about a particular result, at least some people will know you are lying and cease to trust you in the future. Also, if you are successful, it will increase the temptation to lie the next time. Already a substantial portion of the American public and an even larger proportion of the world population consider the republican party to be the party of liars.
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Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago
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...if protoscam ****** me off to the point of blind rage and I decided to shut him up be sticking a hunting arrow through his liver and out his spine for being an accessory to treason against the Constitution....by HIS OWN standards I would be entirely justified...
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(Fortunately for protoscam...I ain't psychotic!!!)
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protoham1 year, 3 months ago
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My real goal is not necessarily to get a specific person in to the office of President, My real goal to keep control of congress and the control of the white house at odds with each other.
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I have seen what happens when the Dems have full control. I have see what happens when Reps have full control. The best years in this country are when the two do not match.
Right now Dems have congress so I want a Rep to control the white house.
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cushi1 year, 3 months ago
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Your statement represents the depth of moral turpitude to which some people (and I use that term generously) have sunk!
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I have no doubt that if the shoe were on your foot, you would be screaming foul loud enough to wake the dead.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 3 months ago
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It is sad that you after bush has decided to go this routh. Haven't you and your likes created enough of a mess when you elected one of your drinking budies. Now you will try and elect a really old man with a temper. I remember under Clinton with those same so call Socialist attitude, creatid one of the best economies this nation has seen in well over 50 years. I don't get your position, if the thing works why go with that which hasn't work over and over? That's the attitude of a mad person.
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duskofdead1 year, 3 months ago
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People like you complain about politics being disgusting and then people of your political stripe are the ones making it that way. If the candidates had their parties reversed, McCain's signed false confession while a POW in Vietnam would be an overlay on Fox news 18 hours out of a 24 hour day. We don't play politics the way the neofascists do, and you guys have a projection syndrome where everything you accuse the left of (big spending, big government, no fiscal responsibility, unpatriotic, cowardly, against America) is actually much more aptly associated with Republican politicians and their policies.
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In2Deep1 year, 3 months ago
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All I can say if Obamanation is elected, those who voted for him will get exactly what they deserve, HIGHER TAXES, more of your hard earned pay going to those that do not want to work just so they can be equal to you, Socialized health care (wont it be great for you to go to the ER and have to wait for hours to get in because someone that does not have insurance goes there for a headach or something stupid like that).
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Where is the money going to come from to pay for all the illegal aliens so they can be made equal to YOU economically (gee.....who here has to take random drug testing to be able to keep your job, and then the govt. takes about half of your takehome pay and gives it to someone who doesnt want to work and NEVER is required to random drug testing.) I trully believe Obamanation is the Anti Christ that Nostradamus has predicted for us.THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU CAST YOUR BALLOT.
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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Onefineseamstres1 year, 3 months ago
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Fox News? bull *hit.... So YOU watch Fox news??
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I never do... I watch out local news, ABC news which is quite liberally slanted...
I reached my own conclusions about Hussin Obama... I agree he may not really be muslim... but he sure don't ring of christianity either...
The church he did claim (until he had to bow out to save his own skin) was the most hate racist thing I've ever seen... Hussin O. claims to have never heard his pastor say such anti american things ever before.... WELL PERHAPS THAT'S BECAUSE HE DON'T LISTEN... IF he was there he's heard it..and simply chose to ignore. hell he probably agreed... his own darn wife said she had never had respect for America before...(until her hubby had a shot at being top dog) then it won't so bad. ...
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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Only 12%? That is very low compared to many of the other fairy tales foisted off on us by the military-industrial-media complex.
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International Criminal Tribunal: The US lied about Yugoslavia
The former chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia in The Hague, Carla Del Ponte, this year published her memoir The Hunt: Me and War Criminals. There was no genocide in Kosovo. The "holocaust" was a lie. The Nato attack was fraudulent.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/08/18/international-criminal-tribunal-the-us-lied-about-yugoslavia/
Challenging the Mainstream Media on the Russia-Georgia War
This narrative has been effectively challenged or at least contextualized in columns by Charles King in the Christian Science Monitor, Brendan O’Neill on Spiked, and Justin Raimondo on Antiwar.com, among others. Here I’d like to list some of their main points, along with some historical background
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memestryker1 year, 3 months ago
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67% of Americans think "In God We Trust" on the money doesn't violate the principle of separation of church and state, and 65% believe in demons. I'd say 12% is a sign that an above average amount of conscious thought is being used--unfortunately.
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4thchance1 year, 3 months ago
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I'm a Christian, White American. However, if my name were something like (Chin Lee), people may get the impression that I was Chinese. It's all in his name. (Barrack Husane Obama). Sounds much like a mix between Osama and Saddam! So, I can understand why people may think he's a Muslim. We all know he is not, but his name gives the impression that he is Muslim. Heck, even Fox News is making it very clear he is not a Muslim. But some people just don't want to hear the truth. Seems many people only beleive what they want to beleive. For those people, there is no changing thier minds. I do find it interesting that most media refuses to use his middle name.
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Tangent0011 year, 3 months ago
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"I do find it interesting that most media refuses to use his middle name. "
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Endoscopy1 year, 3 months ago
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The problem is that there was a time that he was raised as a Muslim. Before his fathar left him and went to Harvard he was raised a Muslim. His mother married a man and went to live in Indonesia and he was raised as a Muslim during that time. His brother Malik Obama has a picture of him wearing traditional Muslim garb with him and another man when they met in 1985.
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This does not mean that he is now a Muslim but it makes him a Muslim apostate. Under Sharia law an apostate is to be killed and the government is not allowed to protect them.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/about-the-obama-grew-up-muslim-nonsense
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alakazam1 year, 3 months ago
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Even five percent of something getting out that isn't garbage is better than pure unadulterated BS.
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The people who watch Colbert are listening to a person a lot more informed than the average Billo groupie .
LOL! I just recently saw one of Billo's oral poodoo contests with Rove about who was the UberCon, and just how EVIL Russia was for responding to an attack by a U.S. supported Nation.
Pretty pathetic.
To one group of listeners it's Gospel, to another it's Humor, to yet another group Colbert is a Man whose message should be stamped out.
I bet the stomper group are mostly a bunch of folks who listen to Billo too much.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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ctc:
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Not all of us are delusional.
Those who didn't vote for the C in C, Chimp in Charge Bush knew where he was headed.
We are the land of the free,home of the brave. We definitely have our problems, like Gw Bush who Bush Whacked our nation. But I love my country, and I'm proud to have fought for her.
I don't love the evil we have in office now, nor the dirty politics of either party.
Those who have deal in lies to make their candidate more appealing are putting a coat of gold paint on a bar of lead. Scratch the surface and you still have lead.-
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splitrch1 year, 3 months ago
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"Those who have deal in lies to make their candidate more appealing are putting a coat of gold paint on a bar of lead. Scratch the surface and you still have lead."
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I call it turd polishing. wrap it up in a nice package and plenty of fools will buy it. After prolonged consumption they convince themselves it even tastes good.-
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cloud151 year, 3 months ago
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I think its more delusional to believe there are not aliens. Think about it. In our solar system alone there are three bodies that we believe life may have at once or still does live on. Earth of course, Mars and Titan. That 2 of 8 planets (now that Pluto isn't a planet, very sad :( ) in our system alone. Multiply that by the trillions upon trillions of stars and their systems in the universe and think about how slim the chances are that intelligent life forms don't exist.
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alakazam1 year, 3 months ago
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"Just like the rest of the world"
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Yes, not numbers or names in a book, nor unbelievers or heretics.
Just PEOPLE! ( those folk over on the other side of the World think you are just as Weird as you think they are.
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chuck-the-canuck1 year, 3 months ago
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If America wasn’t so insistent on being the slow-witted, belligerent, obnoxious, hypocritical nation it has become of late, I wouldn’t feel so compelled to comment on it’s warts.
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While you may be one of the more enlightened, why can’t we all just get along, variety of Americans, these boards are littered with far less palatable varieties. If you aren’t part of the problem, just ignore my comments, they aren’t directed at you.
And if you are one of those that is part of the problem, sober up and get with the program.
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Thinker221 year, 3 months ago
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> there is still a significant number that think Saddam had something to do with 9/11.
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I'm one of them. You see, according to Saddam himself, he "warned the US" about the 9/11 attack. To do so Saddam had to KNOW IN ADVANCE about the Al Qaeda plans.
Somehow I do not think that he (Saddam) could KNOW IN ADVANCE about the Al Qaeda plans while having NOTHING TO DO with it at the same time.-
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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"...many countries warned the US: Afghanistan, Argentina, Britain, Cayman Islands, Egypt, France, Germany, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Morocco, and Russia. Yet the two countries in the best position to know about the 9/11 plot—Saudi Arabia and Pakistan—apparently didn’t give any warning at all.
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The ties between wealthy Saudi figures and al-Qaeda are many, and too complicated to go into here. But it is interesting to notice that, while discussing the resignation of Prince Turki al-Faisal, the head of the Saudi intelligence agency, the Wall Street Journal has speculated that the Saudi Arabian government may have had foreknowledge of 9/11"
http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp?article=essaytheytriedtowarnus
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Thinker221 year, 3 months ago
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>...many countries warned the US: Afghanistan, Argentina, Britain, Cayman Islands, Egypt, France, Germany, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Morocco, and Russia...
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Oh yes, of course. How many of these warnings contained SPECIFICS about the attack (date, time, place, names, methods, etc.)?
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=39051
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Here's what Israel advised the U.S. to do after 911.(click above)
Israeli officials warned the George W. Bush administration that an invasion of Iraq would be destabilising to the region and urged the United States to instead target Iran as the primary enemy, according to former administration official Lawrence Wilkerson.
As for your claim that Saddam knew specific times and dates of the attack. Please show your proof.-
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Thinker221 year, 3 months ago
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> Israeli officials warned the George W. Bush administration that an invasion of Iraq would be destabilising to the region and urged the United States to instead target Iran as the primary enemy, according to former administration official Lawrence Wilkerson.
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It seems that the Israelis were right about that, don't you agree?
> As for your claim that Saddam knew specific times and dates of the attack. Please show your proof.
As I've said Saddam said during his investigation that he "warned the US" about the imminent terrorist attack. As I've explained above, if no SPECIFICS were included then these "warnings" were no more usable than last week's used toilet paper. After the first WTC bombing, the Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania the USS Cole one had to be a complete idiot to assume that no more attacks would follow. Without SPECIFICS Saddam's "warnings" were similar to declaration that the Sun will rise tomorrow. It would make no sense for Saddam to make such declarations and it would make even less sense for him to brag about it.
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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What a minute. How could all those countries "KNOW IN ADVANCE about the Al Qaeda plans while having NOTHING TO DO with it at the same time"
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Funny stuff thinker
"In the second week of August 2001, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, came to Washington and warned the CIA and FBI that 50 to 200 al-Qaeda terrorists had slipped into the US and were planning an imminent “major assault on the US” aimed at a “large scale target” [Telegraph, 9/16/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01,"
What was our esteemed Presidents response?
Vaction time!!!!!!!!
Do you have a link or a source for Saddams' warning to the US about an imminent al Queda attack that was more specific?
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Spadecaller1 year, 3 months ago
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Anyone who still "believes" that Obama is a Muslim has three problems; one, they are ignorant, two - they want to remain that way, and three, they are bigots.
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The only hope for a free society and open society to flourish rests upon the shoulders of an educated electorate. Obviously, our prospects for liberty and a constitutional government are precarious.-
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GWHayduke1 year, 3 months ago
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Its more fear.
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Who CARES if he's a Muslim?
Who CARES if he's black?
What I care about is that he is capable of a coherent conversation with anyone on the planet.
What I care about is that he opposes invading and occupying sovereign nations that pose no threat to the US.
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darlafrns1 year, 3 months ago
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Bigots you say~!!!!!! I am a black woman, and in my community. My
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BLACK community. no one is voting for Obama. Only a small number
and they are all crackheads. Don't talk to me about Bigots. When Obama came through here on his campaign route He had people at the door making sure that only i black out of 100 whites got in to see his speech. while when McKain came through here, he didn't have anyone at the door counting blacks, everyone got in. As sure as it rains we bBlacks, will vote Mckain in the elections. Florida will again go republican. -
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darlafrns1 year, 3 months ago
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Bigots you say~!!!!!! I am a black woman, and in my community. My
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BLACK community. no one is voting for Obama. Only a small number
and they are all crackheads. Don't talk to me about Bigots. When Obama came through here on his campaign route He had people at the door making sure that only i black out of 100 whites got in to see his speech. while when McKain came through here, he didn't have anyone at the door counting blacks, everyone got in. As sure as it rains we bBlacks, will vote Mckain in the elections. Florida will again go republican.
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Cdnstandby1 year, 3 months ago
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There is not an Eastern or Middle Eastern country which does not pose a threat to the United States. And now we have the Russians trying to re-create the Soviet Union.
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Time to wake up - Americans. The bulk of the Middle East is of Muslim faith. The theory of the faith is that if you are not one of them - then they believe they have the G-d given right to annihalate you! Do you honestly believe that they won't. They will cozy up so strongly to BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA, that you won't know what hit you - and in turn what hit the Canadians - as we are considered a part of a Global America to the world at large.
This man is a pied-piper. He has you all singing to his song. . . and you follow like blind mice.
He is no less or more of an unethical politician than any other. We have seen on newscasts how he plays and preys on the weaknesses of his opponents.
BUT - he does not have the knowledge or experience to lead the USA into another Cold War. He likens himself to a Kennedy - but the Kennedy's were an established and prominent family in politics for generations. Obama is neither experienced, nor connected - except with his Church, which preaches that the United States is NO GOOD, or with anti-semites - who want to annihalate all those in the middle east who do not agree with them.
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The best response to what you say, Cdnstandby, is to point out that
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blind mice don't really follow people playing pipes.
It's a myth.
It's not true.
Take a deep breath and consider: what you say is untrue; what you affirm, is a lie.
Barack Obama is a patriotic, christian man with top-level education,
a US senator with more than a decade of political experience; a winner who worked for what he won.
He goes into the presidency with more valid qualities than a good many men have done.
Mice don't sing.
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djn3nunez31 year, 3 months ago
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"The theory of the faith is that if you are not one of them - then they believe they have the G-d given right to annihalate you! Do you honestly believe that they won't."
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I honestly beleive that the Islamic Radicals who do believe that, do not have nor will they ever have the capacity to annihalate me, you or any modern western nation. If you truly believe you are at risk you have fallen for the fear-mongering tactic and it is you who needs to wake up to the fact that Barak is not the Anti-Christ, or the Pied Piper....just a man who wants to change the corporate-fascist nature or our current governing structure.
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Thinker221 year, 3 months ago
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> I honestly beleive that the Islamic Radicals who do believe that, do not have nor will they ever have the capacity to annihalate me, you or any modern western nation.
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First, I seriously doubt that YOU, djn3nunez3, are a "modern western nation".
Somehow I suspect that you're an individual. A human being made of flesh, blood and bones like the rest of us.
Now please consider that the "Islamic Radicals" already annihilated tens of thousands of human beings in modern and not-so-modern nations from Argentina to Zambia and there is, therefore, a fair chance that you may become one of those they'll annihilate in the next round of mass murder commonly referred as 'Jihad'.-
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Cdnstandby1 year, 3 months ago
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It's not the individual who will do it, they will only be following the instruction of their leaders , who were sent here to be educated and learn the American mentality. And from everything I've read on this page and other sites, they know that the moment they get someone inexperienced in office, whom they can wangle around their little finger, all of the USA will be going down.
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How sad - some of you still believe that Canadians live in igloos! ! Even sadder, some don't even know where Canada is. And we are your friendly neighbour. How many who are voting, even know who the enemies of the USA are?????
Black, white, blue, pink - it doesn't matter the color. What matters is someone of experience is needed to head the country. Obama is not the one. I don't say that after a few years around the White House, he might not be - but TODAY - he is not the right one to lead what is supposed to be the greatest democracy in the world against the war mongers, rising dictators, men of his own age who have been brought up with hatred in their guts.
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danojohns1 year, 3 months ago
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The theory of Islam is that if you're not one of them, they have the God given right to annihilate you? Really? Please cite your source for this revelation.
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This is the problem with bigots and fear mongers: you don't know how to argue your point of view without a) believing lies others have told you; and b) perpetuating whatever you've heard that just happens to support your twisted point of view.
No educated person would ever suggest what you did about Islam. No religious scholar, no WELL-INFORMED Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, or person of any other faith would agree with you. The Muslims you should fear are the ones that closely resemble Christian fundamentalist bigots--the ones that are whackos like Timothy MacVey. But just like the Christian community, fundamentalist whacko Muslims are a tiny fraction of the total numbers in the religion.
If Barack Obama were a Muslim (which he is not), he most certainly would not be a fundamentalist whacko-type. In that respect, he would be no more dangerous to America than if he were Mormon or Catholic or Methodist. The mere suggestion that it's bad to be Muslim is bigotry. Attaching such a bigoted label to a man who is clearly a self-professed Christian is pure, unadulterated ignorance.
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Cdnstandby1 year, 3 months ago
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I would like to know how many WELL-INFORMED Christian, Jews, Hindu, Buddhist or person of any other faith - with whom you have spoken.
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I have spoken with not only religious leaders, but biblical scholars, who have studies the fundamentals of other faiths - and their educated evaluation is that the Koran is an imperialistic ideal, written by an unemployed man, living off the wealth of a rich wife, who envisioned himself as the next Messiah. Mohammed started a non-existent faith with his writings. And if you read them, which I have, the theory behind the text, of which you quoted me, is exactly that - He who is not for us - shall not be! ! ! That is why there are so many "martyrs" or more specifically, suicide bombers - who believe that they will be living with virgins for the good deeds they do of killing those, not of their own, here on earth. Have you read in the news, how some mothers even boast of the good deeds their sons and daughters did in their self-sacraficial efforts at killing others?
It pleased me at how small minded you are, when in the scope of the dangers lurking around this globe, you chose to critique a spelling error.
A child is of the faith of the mother, as you never know, in todays' times, who the real father is. It is only for fiscal reasons that the child takes on the faith of the father, i.e. in which schools to enroll him/her. By virtue of that fact, the mother chose to follow the faith of the biological and then adoptive father - making Obama a Muslim! ! ! ! ! !
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willottica1 year, 3 months ago
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"BUT - he does not have the knowledge or experience to lead the USA into another Cold War"
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Thank God for that! I think he may just have the knowledge and experience to keep the USA OUT of another cold war. McCain on the other hand, seems to have the knowledge and experience you seek, based on his aggressive response to Russia in the past weeks.
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Cdnstandby1 year, 3 months ago
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I do not live in your country, but what you, as a meat-head (remember Archie Bunker), do, affect every Canadian within 100 miles of your borders, which is where 70% of our population live.
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And also, the USA can never be kept out of a Cold War - because the economy of the USA is heavily dependent on military arms production. So, by that count, if you have someone who does not know how to deal with it, you are in deeper doo-doo than you can imagine.
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automan9091 year, 3 months ago
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Obama was a Muslim as a child. He went to a Muslim school.
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He prayed as a Muslim.
He still says that the Muslim call to prayer is the prettiest sound he ever heard.
He can still recite it to this day.
He was born a Muslim and was raised Muslim for the first 7 years of his life.
Half of his family is still Muslim.
That is a well known fact.
He is not a Muslim now.
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alakazam1 year, 3 months ago
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So what about it?
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There's an awful lot of time and energy being spent on making it an issue isn't there?
Wow...what if Christians were excluded from public service?
Aside from religious prejudice does anyone have an arguable response as to a difference in one Theocratic form of rule and another?
Imagine that spooky Westboro church from Kansas running the US through an individual converted but silent.
All your sins coming to roost...unless, of course, you get on the Bandwagon for Jesus.
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alakazam1 year, 3 months ago
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I dunno.
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Just seems to be the way things are...
Trying to stamp out religion will only make it flourish. Ignoring it will only make it strident and angry. Violence against it will breed War.
Disprove the existence of God and people might abandon Religion.
Until then I think it will be a primary motivator for the masses,
Would I vote for a High Priest of Cthulu? ...prolly not. Would his religious beliefs be a factor in my rejecting his candidacy? ...Prolly so. :)
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willottica1 year, 3 months ago
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The only time I really remember it coming up was with Stockwell Day, a literalist, and outspoken homophobe.
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Interesting story tied to that. I sang with a group that went Christmas carolling every year, raising money for charity. At one house, an elderly woman's who was friends with my grandparents. Just after the election where he (thankfully) lost, this woman told us about how on the night of the election she cried and cried because the world wouldn't elect a good Christian man like that and had been taken over by perverts (or something to that effect) but that we were such nice kids, great role models.
We listened politely and then left. I didn't have the heart to tell her that 3 of our group were homosexuals. In other circumstances, that kind of 'innocent bigotry' is something I would try to correct. But she was 90, she had a mentally challenged son. I was pretty sure she wouldn't be spreading that view to anyone else that would listen.
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koinoniagal1 year, 3 months ago
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I wish there weren't a difference between having a Christian and a Muslim in office, but those who say no are ignorant of the main premise of Islam - to convert EVERYONE and by FORCE if they deem necessary. If we had a Muslim president, how long would it take before our country would LOSE the very freedom of religion that our country was based on. People say that Christianity is pushed down the throat of people today - yet no one here is FORCED to go to a church or to convert or either lose their job or their LIFE. THAT is what we would be headed for if we have a Muslim for president.
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Our culture is so politically correct, saying that all religions are equal and good, and I'll admit that there are some very nice Muslim people who just want to live in peace, but those are not the ones who are trying to gain power in our government - their sole purpose is to get into a position of changing our government to one that enforces Muslim law. And we have become so TOLERANT and thinking that we are all equal, that when it happens, we are going to be truly taken aback and behind the veil before we know what hit us.-
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willottica1 year, 3 months ago
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"but those who say no are ignorant of the main premise of Islam"
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Umm... I think you are ignorant of the main premise of Islam. Judging by the name of the religion (which translates to 'Peace') their main premise is not to use force.
I don't know where you've learned the fear, but it's false. I believe that you are truly afraid and that you pass on those lies out of good intentions. But you are a tool and a pawn.
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mythhycca11 year, 3 months ago
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Muslims (ask any of them) are taught that Muhammad is the second Christ. To revert to Christianity is stepping backwards. Muslim's know this so they know that whatever OBama claims to be now....he is still a muslim, because Muslim's do not convert to Christianity. Many people change their religions, but you never hear Muslim's doing so until Obama....doesn't this make anyone question why 12% believe he's still Muslim? I bet any Muslim believes he is still Muslim, at least the Muslim's I know do!
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skeek1 year, 3 months ago
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" Muslims (ask any of them) are taught that Muhammad is the second Christ. To revert to Christianity is stepping backwards."
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Judaism still awaits the Messiah, therefore if Christians 'revert,' to use your word, to Judaism, according to your thinking, they are "stepping backwards." What nonsense.
The rest of your comment only gets worse, especially "many people change their religions, you never hear Muslims doing so until Obama." Oh really? I can only imagine how thorough your research has been and just how hard you've been listening.
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Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago
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Safe, I'll take your word over the proven antiChristian liars ANYDAY...I've known several Muslims over the years; and from them learned quite a bit about the history of the Middle East...(I also learned they have quite an affinity for homemade rootbeer!!!)...I also found out that the Muslims have a STRICT code of hospitality...
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...so for all you antiChristians...you better never claim Christianity around me...I have a case of Fells Naptha Floor Soap; and I know how to use it...
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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No. It is not true. Part of it is a lie.
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Barack Obama was NOT born a Muslim.
Barack Obama was NOT raised a Muslim.
Barack Obama's school was NOT a Muslim school.
I used to pray with my father, so what of it?
I still can recite the prayer we prayed too!
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sandykf1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama fan club members....you might want to do a search on "New World order" a term Obama used in a speech a few weeks ago (Obama is Pro new world order)then compare them to the Book of Revelations in the Bible ...through my research on this I found the Anti christ would be a man from the east with dark skin whom rules the world for 40 some months and that is the beginning of the end. Im not a bigot , nor am I ignorant, the Bible and Gods word is the truth ..read it ,decipher it ,and get ready for it .... Obama claims to be christian because it gets him more votes. How many Americans would vote for a Muslim? The way I see it Obama is not American, Muslim or Christian . Im not sure what he is . If he was an American he would put his hand on his heart during the Pledge of Allegence, Muslims cannot just decide to change their religion with out a death sentence and Christians read their Bibles and try to live their lives to the potential God gave them.
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Endoscopy1 year, 3 months ago
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It makes a difference that he has a Muslim father and was raised for a while as a Muslim. That would make him a Muslim apostate. Under Sharia law they are to be killed. Government officials are not allowed to protect them. If president he would have a major problem visiting a country controlled by Sharia law. His only defense would be the guards he brought with him. Also it does not matter what we believe about this but what the Muslims believe about it if he goes there.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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Well how many in our country still believe Bush is doing a good job. I'll bet the numbers correlate and the people behind those numbers are still in their sheets and hats.
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How many people still think the word liberal is somehow connected to being communistic. When in reality conservative is more true in a communistic country. The conservatives at the top want keep all the riches for themselves and their ruling party.
There is nothing liberal about communism, there is a very conservative point to communism though. The conservatives seek to destroy liberty for all but the elite.
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BB641 year, 3 months ago
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I love you guys trying to be smarter than a 5th Grader. First, the GOP was the party that fought and won the American Civil War. Along with answering many questions concerning States Rights, Socioeconomic and other issues, the Emancipation was signed into law by Lincoln, a Republican. The GOP was not and is not the sanctuary of the KKK, that would be the DNC. Here's a little article that you might find interesting:
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Goppy1 year, 3 months ago
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You talk as if history is static ... never changing. If that were the case ... the Soviet Union would still be government in Russia and the Whig party would still be fielding candidates in America.
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While it's true that Abraham Lincoln led our nation through it's darkest days ... it's also true that Republicans were the bastion that fought AGAINST Civil Rights ... fought AGAINST Equal Rights for Women ... and have CONSISTENTLY fought against the EPA.
While it's true that Southern Democrats fought against the Civil Rights in the 60''s ... everyone of a 'certain age' knows these were Democrats in name only ... we all knew them as 'Dixie-crats'.
They were Strom Thurmond type Republicans who only ran as Democrats because the South ... which back then had a penchant for harboring grudges a long time ... would NEVER elect a Republican given what Lincoln did to them.
Sorry ... but the truth is ... NOTHING IS AS CONSTANT AS CHANGE.
And political parties are no different.
All you have to do is consider that Republicans call themselves FISCAL CONSERVATIVES ... when their two longest serving Presidents ... Reagan and Bush 2, each engaged in Reckless Spending on a MASSIVE scale.
You seem resistant to the awareness that the Republican party has been re-formulated. Don't you remember the 'Republican Revolution'?
This was a REVISED Republican Party ... newly infused by Newt Gingrich with a distinctly Neo-Conservative Ideology.
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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While it's true that Abraham Lincoln led our nation through it's darkest days ... it's also true that Republicans were the bastion that fought AGAINST Civil Rights ... fought AGAINST Equal Rights for Women ... and have CONSISTENTLY fought against the EPA.
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No Goppy, it was democrats that fought against civil rights. In fact, most KKK members were and are yellow dawg democrats.
The EPA was formed by Nixon, a Republican.
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Ratskii1 year, 3 months ago
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Typical rant that ignores more history than it includes. Have you forgotten the famous Humphrey speech at the democratic convention in 1948? Have you forgotten that when democrats supported voting and other rights for blacks, the racists in the democratic party went over to the republicans? Have you forgotten that most of the freedom riders and those who risked their lives to support the rights of blacks in the 60s were democrats? Have you forgotten Richard Nixon's southern strategy? Times change. Including minorities in his cabinet was one of the few good things that Bush has done, but that doesn't excuse the other things his administration has been responsible for, including attempting to reduce voter turnout in predominantly black areas.
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danojohns1 year, 3 months ago
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BB64, you asked for it, so now you'll get the response you didn't foresee.
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The GOP wasn't a grand OLD party in 1860, it was a brand new party, with Lincoln its first-ever president. About the 1860s Republicans: let's see, they sought greater civil rights and equality for blacks. They were, by definition, the party that eschewed the status quo, and sought change. Hmmm...that sounds remarkably like a modern Democratic ideal (the meaning of "conservative" is to maintain the status quo, or "conserve" the current situation). Moreover, the parallels between Obama and Lincoln would shock many Republicans (and a few Democrats, I'm sure).
The president was a former legislator from Illinois, with - get this - only 10 total years of government experience; ten years is too inexperienced to be president, right? Sound familiar? It's the exact same amount of experience Obama has. Lincoln voted against all those in Congress who wanted to move forward with war against Mexico. His views were seen as week on military matters, and he was thus thought to be incapable of forming proper judgments about military matters. Hmmm...sound familiar? Lincoln sought the presidency when the nation was deeply divided and headed for dissolution, and, yet, this "new-thinking" candidate, with his lack of experience and incompetence in military matters presided over a Civil War that reconstituted our failing union and led to tremendous leaps forward in the economy, civil rights, and many other important matters. Hmmm...-
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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doj:
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Don't confuse him with facts. He is liable to reject them anyway. I find it funny they do not bring up Teddy Roosevelt much either.
Good points. Yes the Republicans used be the party for change. Now tjey are the party that wants to keep the change and everything else it can get.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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This is a most embarrassing number.
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I was talking to a working man during the primaries, about Obama. He knew absolutely nothing about him, thought he was a Muslim. Luckily, not only did I correct him on that, I also told him about his education/upbringing. He seemed alot more pro-Obama after that... alot of these people, you just have to tell them the truth on the matter.-
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hyperbola1 year, 3 months ago
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Almost as embarrassing as our corporate media concentrating on Obama's father (who abandoned the family when Obama was 2 years old) rather than telling us about the life of his rather admirable white, middle-class, American mother.
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BB641 year, 3 months ago
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I have members of my family, sigh..... that are life long FDR Dems that don't believe me when I've tried telling them he's not a Muslim. It kills me that me the life member of the GOP has to explain that to the other side. The only thing I can figure is the Obama side didn't address this fast enough because like most of my friends, we don't care about your religion. There are many other requirements that concern me, that he simply doesn't have. But again, the Muslim wouldn't bother me. What really does was his former church. He left it now because of the racist comments of some of their leaders. What still concerns me is that he didn't seem to think what was said was racist. When this first came up, I purchased 2 CD's from a list of several sermons listed. I found them rather offensive. If they're not, why aren't they still available?
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Endoscopy1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama's father is mostly Arab and a little Black. His father is a Muslim. His mother is white. The first few years of school he went to a Muslim school. That makes him in the eyes of Islam a Muslim apostate. It is legal to kill Muslim apostates under Sharia law.
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Did you explain these things to that working man.
In countries where Sharia law is in place the government officials are not allowed to protect a Muslim apostate. So if he is elected and goes to Iran what will happen?-
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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Endo,
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Please explain to us all how this school was a "Muslim" school.
I had some Catholics in my school...did that make it a Catholic school? I think not.
When I was in college there were quite a few Muslims too...does that mean I have a Muslim education?
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4thchance1 year, 3 months ago
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I think one of the big problems we face these days is that we can no longer trust what the media is telling us. Seems media outlets like NBC, CNN, MSNBC etc. have lately made up and reported crazy lies for political reasons. So, who believes anything the media spews anymore? How do we know what they tell us is actually fact or fiction? We don't know, and that's a very BIG problem for our entire country!
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Poulenc1 year, 3 months ago
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Apropos of the human condition, which I think is the subject of this thread, I read the other day that since WWII there's been only one month in which no nation on the planet was at war.
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Beau78901 year, 3 months ago
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It's unfortunate that it's so much easier to create lies than it is to dispel them. Especially when such a lie is repeated so many times in the mainstream media, which so often is too lazy to check facts--or disingenuous enough not to want to report facts.
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For anyone who visits this story and still believes Obama was educated in a radical Muslim madrassa in Indonesia, CNN did a comprehensive report to discover the truth, even sending a reporter to the school to interview teachers and students:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
There's a link to the video of the reporter's visit to the school and interviews a couple of paragraphs down in that article--I'd recommend watching that as well..-
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albionperfides1 year, 3 months ago
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I met an American in Buenos Aires in February who was convinced that Barrack was a Muslim and that WMD had been discovered in Iraq under 15 feet of sand. When, as a doubting brit, I asked for references to support his statements, came there none. It seemed to him that to repeat someone elses statement gave it validity. He was impervious to another, european, view.
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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It’s silly to try and call Obama a ‘Muslim’. He may have been sent to Muslim school as a child, but you know what, I was made to go to vacation bible school as a child. And just like me, Obama had no choice but go where his parents told him to.
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Even if Obama was/is a Muslim, which is highly unlikely; it shouldn’t matter anymore than him belonging to a Christian church as an adult IMO.
If you want to argue his positions or his shortsightedness of those he has associated with during his life, which is one thing.
Trying to say he’s not ‘worthy’ of being president because he may have or is a member of ANY religion of his choosing in a nation that purports to be for religious freedom is absolutely the wrong way to try and win an election.
On a side note: He was born to a US citizen (his mother), that makes him a US citizen from what I heard.
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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I agree, BUT it's been thoroughly debunked that he didn't even go to a Muslim school as a child. His father was a Muslim, or so I've heard.
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But how many black men were Muslims in the 1960's?
Muhammad Ali, anyone?
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slate1 year, 3 months ago
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The poor monkey died in the turmoil of the site revamp and has been replaced by this unflattering photo of some guy.
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Don’t worry, I’ll still say things that you don’t agree with for the most part, but unlike many here, I can have views that cover the spectrum of middle, right and left from time to time.
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Endoscopy1 year, 3 months ago
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The problem is not how we look at it but how Islam looks at it. His father being a Muslim and going to a Muslim school makes him a Muslim. Turning his back on Islam and becoming a Christian makes him a Muslim apostate. Under Sharia law they are to be killed. Muslim Governments are forbidden to protect Muslim apostates. This is part of Islam. Question the faith and run for your life. A lot of them have been killed or almost killed. There are many stories out there on the internet. Google "Muslim apostate".
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Spadecaller1 year, 3 months ago
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Endoscopy; you are usually the one judging who is and is not a good Christian, as you are doing here once again.
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Cdnstandby1 year, 3 months ago
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He was also born on American soil - the last I heard - Hawaii became a State in 1955 or so, until then it was an American Territory.
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So my question is this - why does he refer to himself as an African-American? That term relates to people who were actually born in Africa and came to America.
Why doesn't he just refer to himself as an American?
As far as having a dislike to a specific religion in the White House - I have no objection to any, because none of the other faiths, to the best of my knowledge, have any hatred towards mankind. Why do I not want a Muslim in office - for that specific reason - The Muslim faith spews hatred toward any who does not believe as they do.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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"So my question is this - why does he refer to himself as an African-American? That term relates to people who were actually born in Africa and came to America."
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Because it doesn't. I call myself a German-American on occasion- however, the closest I have ever been to Germany are in the extremely German areas of Missouri. The prefix refers to primary heritage.-
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Cdnstandby1 year, 3 months ago
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I have a multi-cultural heritage, but I am Canadian and proud of it. When I refer to my heritage, it is in conversation with friends - not BROADCAST. We know his heritage is African - it is visibly obvious, why does he feel the need to LABEL himself.
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The more important issues about him are his underlying beliefs and how they will reflect in decisions he would make.
I will re-iterate what I have written in other blogs. He made a conscious choice only AFTER he finished Grad School, as to what religion he would present to the world. He made that choice at age 23. Not at 10, or 15 or 18. He did it when it was convenient for his political aspirations - and NOT BEFORE.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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Gut instinct is what has put us where we are now in comparison to eight years ago.
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I, like virtually all Americans, have a multi-cultural heritage. I myself have made a decision that if anyone asked my primary heritage, I would say German, because my family name is, in fact, German. I also have Swedish, English, Irish, French and virtually all the Western European countries you can think of. Obama could choose to consider himself a Caucasian, an Arab-American or an African-American. Because of the fact that he physically appears as an African-American, he chose African-American. I don't think I've ever head him call himself an "African-American" more then a few times. It isn't a big point of worry in a highly multicultural society, for the most part. Obama is actually doing better among white voters then Kerry did. -
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Tell your Dad that just because a Canadian doesn't vote, doesn't mean that he doesn't have a stake in what is happening with his neighbour. Tell Dad that 70% of the Canadian population lives within 100 miles along the US border. Tell Dad that if you guys make a wrong choice, it affects the lives of some 20,000,000 people living along your borders, because if you get another attack like 9/11 - that is just 300 miles from the Canadian border. And tell Dad - that a nuclear attack, because of the wrong person in office, will kill Canadians as well as Americans.
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So PLEASE tell Dad that we have a RIGHT TO AN OPINION, even if we don't have the right to vote on it.
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BB641 year, 3 months ago
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I'm as conservative as they come but it really ticks me off on the claims he's a Muslim. He's proclaimed being Christian since day one. What's so difficult for some to understand? And before you take your customary liberal cheap shots at the sole conservative left on Propeller, I've heard this from people of the left and right.
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stupidpeople1 year, 3 months ago
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How can you say G.W. was a good president? He is a self serving ass ! When we went to Iraq he made claims of W of M d that were never found! He gave the leader of that county to the people who hated him to assassinate him in a public spectacle, he continues to watch other peoples kids die in a war that was a lie. The french told us it was a war for oil but the price didn't go down in America, it went up cause George and penis are making milions of dollars from it (and him and Penis Cheney continue to make millions)! America has no jobs, foreign countries own the companies that are here because American companies couldn't survive the oil prices when foreign co.'s can produce on pennies to the dollar, Europeans and especially middle-easterns(I went Niagara Falls with my kids and felt like a minority to the Asians) are buying vacation houses here because our countries housing market is destroyed, the banks are almost completely defunct, and England goes out of its way to make sure kids from royalty don't end up in Iraq! I have to ask , do you have any kids in Iraq? Thats what I thought, neither does G.W. or penis Cheney! G.W. should be impeached and charged with the murder of Saddam and everyone who died in this war that was a lie to the world! The U.S. now has no respect from other countries that see the lies that the greedy, self-righteous, religious freaks have told! G.W. or Obama what a choice!!! I refuse to exercise my vote for either! Popular vote doesn't mean anything anyways, G.W. didn't have popular vote, he got in office by electoral vote. That means the American gov. will put whoever they want in office, regardless of who the people vote for! This presidential farse will have the lowest voting count in history!! I'll probably have C.I.A. guys taking me to prison in Gauntanamoe Bay tommorrow for speaking my mind. Bring all you got, you'll need it! I can laways use my pen!!
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david_nwpa1 year, 3 months ago
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BB, you and I agree on this issue. I am impressed as we usually disagree on everything. However, I am also outraged that some claim him to be a Muslim. What matters is what he says and how he acts. He claims to be a Christian. Why does the religion of the President matter?
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Bonded1 year, 3 months ago
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If you watched the Presidential Profiles on Fox last night, you now know how this rumor/misunderstanding started. When BHO was attending school overseas, his religion was listed as Muslim (the document was shown). But, as the show explained, this was because of the school's practice of listing the father's religion being the same as the child. BHO was raised by his Christian mother and also attended a Christian school.
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GWHayduke1 year, 3 months ago
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Not only is it weak, it is patently false.
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Islamic doctrine states that one must profess allegiance with the 5 articles of faith.
But one does not become a complete Muslim by mere vocal profession alone. To become a complete Muslim one has to fully carry out in practice the instructions given by Prophet Muhammad (blessings of Allah and peace be upon him) as ordained by God.
Like Catholicism, lineage is not sufficient to promote faith, one must believe, profess and practice the faith.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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The President, even if he were a Muslim, has extremely limited powers. They can only do what Congress allows them to do... they don't have the power to make the country live under Islamic law or any other type of law, other then the Constitution.
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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The conservative soothsayer is here! Any other silly predictions? That's just plain stupid. America won't ever be a Muslim country. I know you're trying to make a point, but here's your point flayed inpublic. You're trying to say that a person against the Iraq war and also having a Muslim father is somehow a Muslim sympathizer or sleeper bent on turning America into a Muslim country. Am I right? First of all, millions of christians and people from all faiths are against the war. So the first part is dissected and disproven. The religious beliefs of the father have nothing to do with those of the offspring. Obama's father left Obama's mother when he was 2 years old. Not a heck of a lot of time to indoctrinate a sleeper to eventually graduate Harvard and get into politics and run for President. If you know the technique that this Muslim father used to do this. Please let me know. Rebuffed.
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alakazam1 year, 3 months ago
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So if my mother was a Jew am I also a Jew?
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If she wasn't does that make me a different person?
How does the religious convictions of one individual reflect those of another?
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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Thanks, I think I confused Buddhism with Islam because I was thinking the "five truths" and isn't Buddhism the one with the "truths" and something like 3 of them?
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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I've heard some morons in the AOL "Debate Politics" chat room (they should call it trash-talk chat room) saying the Obama refused to be sworn in to the Senate on a Bible. After doing some research I saw the picture of Barack Obama with his family, being sworn in on a HOLY BIBLE held by **** Cheney.
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Then they say he had an American Flag taken off of his jet. Then I saw a picture of his jet, and guess what? The good ole stars and stripes painted on the fuselage.
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globalwarmer1 year, 3 months ago
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At the end of the day it shouldn't matter what religion our president is as long as he upholds our Constitution, I know thats not enough for some of you but of course I would be much more comfortable with a President that wasn't a religious fundamentalist anything, in fact I get uncomfortable watching politicians proclaim that they are christian just because they have to.
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vanwrinkles1 year, 3 months ago
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I watched Obama Saturday night and he said he was Christian though none of answers seems to match the Christian values I was raised with. Your actions speak louder than words. If he says he's God, would that make it so? Thank God for those of us with common sense.
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willottica1 year, 3 months ago
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Funny, they all seemed to match the Christian values I was raised with... odd how two people can see things so differently, isn't it?
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Oddly enough, most of his answers seemed to match McCain's. The only notable exception was the question of Supreme Court Justices... and Obama's reasons seemed quite sound. McCain didn't provide any reasons, even when re-asked for them.
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Kate_da_Great1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama is the better canidate for president '08. The Obama Muslim Myth was made up by the people who knew that Mudslinging and lies was the only way that McCain would win, and the people who made up "Obama Yo Mama!"
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BillieMaxer1 year, 3 months ago
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Guess what, that's exactly how Bush got in for 8 long years, by lying and deceit . So do you think American people in general have learned their lesson, or will they once again get sucked in by all the lies and propaganda all over again? Are there more Americans living in a fish bowl than those who don't, because if so, America is in for another 4 long years.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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Canada has a fine military.
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McCain's service wasn't insulted at all in that post that I could see.
America- perhaps it was insulted. However, we deserve it for electing Bush... twice.
Well, those who could legally vote do. I consider myself exempt from the insult.
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Mutainia1 year, 3 months ago
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Hey, everybody, just because Obama has Muslim terrorists supporting him doesn't make him a Muslim, nor the fact that he didn't bolt out the door of a church that preached like the Nation of Islam for the 20 years he attended it, NOR the fact that he's a communist/Marxist, NOR the fact that he refused to wear a flag pen or the fact that he removed the US flag from his personal jet. Also, his desire to appease terrorists and the haters of America ALSO doesn't make him a Muslim.
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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I think you failed to watch the video in goppy's link. You have tried to rebroadcast some of the rumors that already have been debunked. It's not your fault. It's the media's fault for the brunt of it, for rehashing those rumors so effectively.
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Mutainia1 year, 3 months ago
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You mean Muslim terrorists AREN'T supporting? You mean he DID bolt out the door of a church that preached like the Nation of Islam for the 20 years he attended it? He DOESN'T have communist/Marxist beliefs, DIDN'T refuse to wear a flag pen or remove the US flag from his personal jet? He DOESN'T desire to appease terrorists and the haters of America? I guess it depends on whose propoganda you want to believe then, doesn't it?
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JESUSWorshiper1 year, 3 months ago
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Didnt Obama say in his book that he would go the way of muslim if it come to it. POINT IS he is muslim. In a muslim country this would not matter. Although we as Americans do not act christian as a whole; the finding of this country was based on JESUS CHRIST. If we look at our history the more Jesus and christian principles are taken out the worst shape this country gets in. Also what business does a muslim have running a christian country.Did Andrew Jackson run for president in Mexico.Bush has not let America down. We have let him down. Twin towers got attacked first. Then we went to war. Same senario as WWII Just not the same Patriotic country.
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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The finding of this country was predominantly based on three things-
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1. The love of money
2. The love of money
3. Liberal ideals, such as freedom of speech, religion and democracy.
You are taking Obama's quote out of context. He essentially stated that if the political winds would turn to an extreme anti-Muslim attitude then he would stand up for them. He did not say go the way of the Muslim... he said stand with them, as in fight with them for their civil rights.
The President DOES NOT run the country. He/she has EXTREMELY limited powers and can really only accomplish what Congress lets him... his only real power, except during a time of war, is the veto. During war time he can basically tell the army to do what he wants, assuming it is in accordance with Congress' declaration of war. Also, we are a country mainly of Christians. Not a Christian country... read the bloody Constitution and it will be CLEAR to you that no religious test can exist for the office of President!
Andrew Jackson didn't run for President of Mexico, but Polk took about 1/3 of it not so long after.
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mythhycca11 year, 3 months ago
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Why is OBama being muslim a problem? Why the big deal? Why is his religion an issue?
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Explanations: Radical Muslim's Jihad want to destroy America anyway they can and if they can from the inside out all the better. Here is a man that comes out of the blue, with an extreme radical muslim background and ties to known terrorists claiming to be Christian coming from an extreme radical Christian church more like a radical cult in itself. The man is asked how could he and his wife go to this extreme radical Christian church for over 20 years and expose their children to the hate spewed from Wright's mouth and Obama answered "He never heard it!" So Radical muslim, radical Christain, both religions spew hate that show the man's character and background. His mother is White and yet he professes to be black and hate whites, but you people think all this is okay? You think hatred by his wife for this country is okay? You don't think he shares the same view as her? Then you people claim the President doesn't have the power to do this or that....Gee I think a law was passed giving the President a right to call a thing called Marshall Law, The Land of the Free will be made into the land of Jihad....from the inside out!!!!! I am not saying these things because I'm for McCain, I'm not saying these things because I'm racist, I'm not saying these things because I hate muslims (I know many fine, nice Muslim's) They believe OBama is a muslim, because once you are taught to be one, you never revert! This man is one scarey person to be running for Pres.! He scares the hell outta me. I read and listen to all sides and everything that's going on in this election. The more I hear the more frightened I get. Some say he's the antichrist. Maybe he's as close to there being an antichrist that we can get! It sure seems that way to me.
He puts down his own country in Germany to cheers at rock concerts. Europe who has more radical muslims want Obama as the US Pres. why would they care? They can't vote here. Does he think he's running for King of the world? Don't you people listen and see what audacity going to Iraq and preaching to the armed forces, not like he a candidate, but as if he's already won! Please people wake up. Is this mass hypnosis? Are you people deranged? Change is not what you hope it to be! Change is going to destroy us and out freedom. His change is not going to be one we want! Be wary of this man!-
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama did not come out of nowhere. I knew of him prior to 2004 and, when he won his seat in the Senate, I was fairly confident he'd be the first biracial President.
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Hmmm... so, he's a radical Muslim but he joins the WORST church to join for political purposes, in just about the entire world, to cover up that he's a radical Muslim? I don't think so. Not buyin' it.
He never said he hates whites.
He never said he hated this country while in Germany.
Europe cares QUITE deeply about what happens in the United States. Europe actually loves the United States, just not Bush or much of its policy of late. For exhibit A... look at how many Germans were waving American flags while Obama spoke (yes, he had a show before this... but c'mon... how many people bring the flags of another country to a rock concert of two decent, not great, acts?). Exhibit B... go meet some Europeans, for Christ's sake.-
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mythhycca11 year, 3 months ago
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American flag's handed out by Obama? lol I know many Europeans. He never said he hated the country, he just put down the country (same thing to me) Yeah Europe has the biggest Radical Muslim population besides the M>E>they migrated there from the middle east, France is overrun and just about taken over by them. He joined a Christain church that preaches hatred for whites, he put in his own book that he disliked whites, that he wouldn't even hear what someone had to say because they were white ( can't quote exactly, because I loaned the book out so I don't have it right in front of me.) His Christain church was as close to muslim radical as he could get and still claim to be christain a mistake by Jihad, maybe, but it was enough for all these people to think he converted to chirstianity isn't it? His media crew ousted two muslim woman supporters that sat behind him when he was making a speech because they didn't want any muslims in the pictures. I think that's attepting to sway the public with disinformation. All the radical muslims support him...hell they know he's muslim. Why would someone who is not muslim know the truth? All you gotta do is find some muslims and ask what they know!
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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Which book? Be aware I have read one of them and if you tell me the one I've read, I'll know its not true. If you tell me which book and its not the one I've read, I'll do some looking on it.
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He didn't put the United States down. I watched the speech multiple times to be certain. It wasn't there.
"Over-run" by them? Europe is new to the game of massive influx of immigrants seeking a better life. The United States is not. We have several million Muslims in this country- and they have all become part of the culture and added to the culture. It is not a threat anymore then the Irish or Chinese were 150 years ago.
He didn't want any Muslims in the picture because it would add to the rumors already out there. It was dumb of him, but I understand why he did it completely.
All the radical Muslims support him? We don't have to many in the United States. We have many Muslims, but most aren't radical. Hell, even as a percent few Christians in this country are actually radical.
You don't get a secret decoder ring for being Muslim. It isn't a secret order like the free-masons or anything like that. They will tell you what they will of their faith and, like all faiths, many interpretations exist. Some may consider him a Muslim due to his father; it is my understanding though that most believe you must proclaim the 5 articles of faith to even begin to consider yourself a follower of Islam.
Both parties use disinformation. Its part of politics. The rumors you state about Obama are just that- disinformation. Its just like the "McCain is the Anti-Christ" rumor I stumbled across the other day.
I know many Europeans, many of them are extremely close friends actually. Most care rather deeply what happens here because it deeply effects Europe as well. Whether you like it or not, World War 2 sealed us together in many ways. If one of us does something, it tends to reflect in the other.-
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mythhycca11 year, 3 months ago
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I went and got you a quote:
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"That hate hadn't gone away"...."white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives." Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams Of My Father
"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out, many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs. . . It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father
"I found solice in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race" Barack Hussein Obama from Dreams of My Father-
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Mdiar1 year, 3 months ago
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp
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I read that particular book.
You are taking them out of context, you know. The ellipses are actually proof that in places you are cutting away parts of the quote.
The above link details the context of some of the quotes you found. The biggest sense I got from the first book by Sen. Obama, "Dreams Of My Father", was that he was very confused. As the book goes on he takes on a different perspective... in other words, he grows up. We all do, hopefully.-
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mythhycca11 year, 3 months ago
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I just put out some quotes to answer a question and yes he was confused and still is judging by his voting records and words. He flips and flops and stutters over everything, but the topic is: Is he muslim and my reasons for him being muslim is still that muslims say you do not revert. They believe that Christ was Go'ds first son and Mohommad was the second. If I had two sons would I throw away one to go backwards? No! That is why his Christianity does not make sense. Could it be a ploy? yes! Could he be Christain and Muslim at the same time? Yes! According to my Muslim friends you always are Christian before becoming Muslim because they believe in Jesus, but you can never go back once you accept Muhammad as God's second son. If you say you did revert, you are either telling a lie or are both...so you figure it out.
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galletta61211 year, 3 months ago
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I DONT KNOW IF HES A MUSLIM OR NOT. HE WAS BORN A MUSLIM, SO AT THJE VERY LEAST HE IS SYPETHETIC TO THEM. ALSO HE HAS MANY MUSLIM REALITIVES. I DO KNOW THAT HE IS NOT A CHRISTAN. ANYONE WHO COULD DRAG HIS FAMILY TO THAT RACIST PHONEY CHRISTAN SO CALLED CHURCH, AND LISTEN TO THAT RACIST ANTI WHITE GARBAGE FOR A GOOD 20 YEARS, CAN NOT CALL HIMSELF A CHRISTAN, I DO BELIEVE HE COULD END UP BEING THE ANTI WHITE SOCIALIST, AFRICA FIRST AMERICAN PRESIDENT. ;
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Widely distributed reports have noted in January 1968, Obama was registered as a Muslim at Jakarta's Roman Catholic Franciscus Assisi Primary School under the name Barry Soetoro. He was listed as an Indonesian citizen whose stepfather, listed on school documents as "L Soetoro Ma," worked for the topography department of the Indonesian Army.Indeed, the Israel Insider online magazine points out in Obama's autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," he acknowledges
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"In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Quranic studies," wrote Obama.
The Indonesian media have been flooded with accounts of Obama's childhood Islamic studies, some describing him as a religious Muslim .
Speaking to the country's Kaltim Post, Tine Hahiyary, who was principal of Obama's school while he was enrolled there, said she recalls he studied the Quran in Arabic.
"At that time, I was not Barry's teacher but he is still in my memory" claimed Tine, who is 80 years old. The Kaltim Post says Obama's teacher, named Hendri, died.
"I remember that he studied 'mengaji (recitation of the Quran)," Tine said, according to an English translation by Loatze.
Mengaji, or the act of reading the Quran with its correct Arabic punctuation, is usually taught to more religious pupils and is not known as a secular study.
Also, Loatze documented the Indonesian daily Banjarmasin Post caught up with Rony Amir, an Obama classmate and Muslim, who describe Obama as "previously quite religious in Islam." -
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galletta61211 year, 3 months ago
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HE CHANGED HIS NAME FROM *BARRY SOETORO* TO HIS MUSLIM NAME *BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA* THIS SHOULD GIVE YOU ALL A HINT OF WHAT RELIGION HE RELATES TO. THE QUESTION TO ASK IS, DO WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE ON A PERSON WHO HAS CHANGED HIS POSITIONS ON JUST ABOUT EVERY ISSUE TO TRY AND DECIEVE THE ILL INFORMED AND GULLIBE OF THIS COUNTRY ? HE IS ANTI CAPITALIST AMERICA AND A PRO SOCIALIST WHO SPEAKS CHANGE, BUT NEVER TALKS ABOUT HIS TRUE AGENDA FOR AMERICA. ALONG WITH CLOSE TO 70 PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS,m HE MAY JUST GET HIS WAY IF ELECTED. GOD FORBID!
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garynjamieb1 year, 3 months ago
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UM does anyone know Nobama's middle name ? OR did you know he will not put his hand over his heart when they play the national ahthem ? Yes thats a real american,He just started wearing an american flag pin on his jacket. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Google his middle name or where his parents raised him. I served my country with great pride (US ARMY) for 10 years,When the colors pass me i shed a tear of pride while that butthead keeps his hands to the side.HE IS NO AMERICAN !!!! African americans are voting for him because he is black....guess what america, he wears a towel around his head. GO LOOK AT HIS MIDDLE NAME you tell me how he was raised after you see that. He becomes our leader...We are in trouble
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BillieMaxer1 year, 3 months ago
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garynjamieb "We are in trouble"
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Now that's a understatement, but it has nothing to do with Obama, guess what, you have been in trouble for the last 8 years, your just too pig headed to admit it and now you want everyone to believe its been wonderful all that time.Vote McBush and watch your country dig itself into a hole much worse than you are in now.
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jadeona11 year, 3 months ago
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Is he black or is he white?
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Is he christian or is he muslim?
Is he for drilling or against?
Did he know rev wright after 20 years or was he blind?
Did he know tony rezco or not?
Did he know Bill Ayers after 18 years or not?
Does he whear a flag pin or not ?
Did he pledge a legion or not?
50 states or 57? he should know how many states in america if he wants to be president.
Is his father muslim or not?
Did he attend a muslim school or not.
I dont know any president that ever went to a muslim school do you? Why would you go?
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 3 months ago
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A pledge a legion of crazy right-wingers to the gates of hell, and to the lies for which they stand, one nation under THEIR God, divisible economically, socially, and racially, with no civil liberty, and justice on THEIR time, without a lawyer.
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Amen.
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captgeobob1 year, 3 months ago
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another attempt by obama's handlers to hide the truth, the mesiah was registered as a muslin while in school his first eight years, if he wasn't muslim then why? And have you noticed that obama has gray hair now since coming back from his vacation? the crook from cook county will do anything and say anything to get elected.
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vor1 year, 3 months ago
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Why don't you read his bio so they you can get some understanding of what you are talking about?
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Sure Obama was an 8 year old Muslim hate monger! You will never see the lack of logic in your own (or is it Rush Limbaugh's) argument!
You are the likes of whom believe there is an Islamo-Fascist armada waiting on the horizon waiting to be called ashore the day his elected. Unfortunately there are a lot of sub-70's like you out there. The sad part is that you can read monosyllabic words and pull a voting lever.-
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Cdnstandby1 year, 3 months ago
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If your leaders weren't in fear of their own hides, they would not put so many young men and women at the front line to defend against any advance against the USA. Bin Laden is a family friend of the Bush's. They know where he is - but won't rock any boat in going in to get him. WAKE UP AMERICA! Obama or Bin Laden - they are both the same, but each is coming at you from a different direction. At least Bin Laden is open about his feelings for the country in which he was educated.
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darlafrns1 year, 3 months ago
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He went to a muslim school until he was 15.(from his own lips) and if any of you card carrying
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Deocrats are kidding yourselves that he is not a Muslim, you are over your headsadd to that the fact the fact that the man has been touring the world and making promises that he can't
back up. He has no business meeting with our enemies or friends,He is NOT the president,
and if he thinks that will win him more votes at home he is wrong, McKain(SP) is pulling far ahead even as we speak, If people believe he's a muslim and don't vote for him....GREAT.
If people are ****** off that he has been traveling the world meeting with its' leaders like he is the President and they don't vote for him, that is doubleGREAT!!! He ,as a private citizen even, has no right to do that.Now, for all you kiddies that think he is not a muslim because he went to a muslim school when he was young; you are idiots, where do you think our core values come from? -
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makota0691 year, 3 months ago
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I can understand the controversy on whether or not Obama is muslim, and there may be a lot of rumors going around, but who does he deny the fact that he changed his name from Barry to Obama...because it was making him too "white"? What about the quotes from his books? From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' I personally and worried what will become of this nation of he is elected.....Why would he invite all the heads of terrorist organizations into this country???
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sweettazhonee1 year, 3 months ago
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My grandparents were Baptist,My parents are Baptist, I was born a Baptist,I was raised a Baptist,I went to a Baptist Church, I was baptised a Baptist. My kids were born Baptist, they was raised Baptist, their kids were born Baptist, they are being raised Baptist.. Ombama was born a Muslim, he was raised a Muslim, hes still a Muslim..I use the Bible he wont put his hand on it,but uses the Koran..need we know anything more???? remember 911??
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selmon951 year, 3 months ago
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what i really hate is the idea that every muslim is against america. i was born in connecticut and im muslim and the last time i checked i didnt blow my school up when i was a kid. and the media is extremely bias. ive seen madrasas before and the i didnt see any guy wth a turban and a beard teaching kids to blow themselves up. and those retarded self-proclaimed "patriots" if you didnt know by now seperation of church(or mosque or synagogue) and state is one of the main rules this nation was founded on so i dont care if obama is muslim,jewish,christian,buudhist,hindu,or if he believes in greek mythology i like his POLITICAL beliefs i dont care about his religious ones so if you were real "patriots" you wouldnt give a d*** about his religion you would either like him or dislike him because of political stance on issues
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cdbasher1 year, 3 months ago
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Well If your mommy married not one Muslim but two.. You attended a Muslim scholl as a child... Your father had 3 wifes... All your step brothers and sisters are Muslims.. You went to a church that had a pastor that has a master degree in Islam and close friend is one of America's most Islamic figures.. You may say that you're not a muslim but you come pretty darn close to being one ...
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NCranger1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama had both a Muslim step father and very absent father. He was indeed registered as a Muslim at a school in Indonesia. Obama's religion, whether Muslim, Christian, or Goat worshipper, is not the problem. The problem is the FACT that he is a ANTI-business socialist, who will destroy the American economy! This leftist should be running for president of Cuba or North Korea, not the US! This enemy of America needs. By the way his upbringing is something like this: He was raised by a single mom with a man's name, and abandoned by two different fathers and raised by white grand parents! He was Barack Obama, then he was Barry Soetoro, then he was Barry Obama, and finally Barack Obama. His father was killed while driving drunk in Kenya, years after abandoning Barry and Stanley. His stepfather died of Cirrosis of the liver in an LA hospital after coming from Indonesia for treatment at the ripe old age of fifty. Bottom line: this guy has the upbringing of a sea turtle! He was basically hatched on a rock in the sun. On that basis alone, he is more qualified to sit in a mental hospital ward than be President. How about having someone with some actual upbringing and a role model in his life! Time to ditch this moron!
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AZiglar1 year, 3 months ago
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None of his family is Christian.. His mother was an atheist and both his father & stepdad were Muslim. And furthermore, how can anyone who claims to be a Christian condone (via legislation) the murder of innocent babies; he opposed the Born-Alive Act written to protect aborted babies who survived. His favorite bible verse is "Whatever you do unto the least of these my brethren, you do unto me." - Matthew 25:40...the words of Jesus... Well, don't you think Christ would consider infants, both pre-born and newborn, the innocent? Come on, he can't have it both ways.
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jzefram1 year, 3 months ago
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Barack Obama's is in fact a Muslim because his family has Muslim heritage. The reason that many people don't want to believe it is because they blame Fox News and the conservatives for smearing Obama's name. Do you realize that his name Obama rhymes with Osama bin Laden's first name? It is also a fact that Obama's wife attended a Nation of Islam rally. She portrayed white people as "Whitey" as a mocking role play with Minister Louis Farrahkan. Many people claimed that this never happened. If it didn't happen, then why would the media report that it did happen. We all know that Obama hates what the United States represents in the world. His minister, Jeremiah Wright, uses hateful speech that demeans the U.S. Obama states that he does not believe what his minister believes, I want everyone to consider what 20 years of attending that church will do to a person or family. He also wants to meet with all the terrorists and all of our enemies including Iran, Syria, and Libya. He wants gas prices to remain high or go even higher. He reminds me of Hitler. Hitler could charm people with his command of speech and language. Hitler was also willling to destroy all that opposed him. Obama is really a Marxist. His ideals are more closely in line with Communism. Remember the Communist credo is that everyone is equal and everyone should not get more than anyone else. We all know that the Communist party got more portions of food, money, medicine, properties, and more freedoms than the ordinary people. Communism does not work. Everyone is not equal. No one should follow Obama!
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93rdkid1 year, 3 months ago
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Obama might be a muslim?!?!?! Holy crap! Well, at least he's not a Jew. Or worse yet, a Christian. Then again, he could have been a Quaker. Or a Baptist. Or a Taoist. Or a Buddhist. Or a linguist. Wait. That's not a religion. I've lost my train of thought. What was the topic? Oh yeah. Now I remember. I don't care what religion he is. In fact, I would prefer he were of no religion. All of it is babble anyway. The opiate of the masses. Wise up, people.
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justsaynototheo1 year, 3 months ago
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The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently
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tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments,
no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of
how the economy works, no understanding of how the
world works, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric
devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he
rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he
hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic
surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way
to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in
Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from
his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is
exclusively.
What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is
'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved
Africans brought to America chained in slave ships.
He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead,
his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading
was the main Arab business in East Africa for
centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of
slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he
makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some
complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the
Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond
politics and reason. It is a true religious cult,
whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe
in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of
being human to the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ,
offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There
is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of
his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make
of any kind can be effective against it. The
absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being
their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to
worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because
it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans
remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a
phony savior.
His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken
seriously by any thinking American.
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Cleo2041 year, 3 months ago
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This is just another case of a politician using Madison Avenue type language. He carefully states that he is NOT a muslim. Notice how he AVOIDS stating that he was NEVER a muslim. He cannot make that statement because during his early school years, he was registered as a muslim.
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He has stated "they" are trying to make this about me instead of making this about you. Well, when someone runs for president, it should be about that person becasue that person should reflect our views.
He's just another slick politicain playing with words to divert attention from the truth.
Will someone please have the guts to phrase the question to him as follows: Have you
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journeylovin1 year, 3 months ago
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Whether he is muslim or not doesn't concern me. My concern is that you are so worried about this 12%...Tell me why...it's not that big of a number. More people probably believe that the moon walk was faked. Or that Elvis is alive and well. Focusing on such a small number is a waste of time. Right at this moment I do not know who I'm voting for...they are politicians, they lie whether they are democrats or republicans, black or white, woman or man that's what they do. So I guess I need to figure out what lies I can handle. Caring who thinks he's muslim is just plain crazy.
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KV1 year, 3 months ago
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see: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5354
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cedric781 year, 3 months ago
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WAKE UP! norstadomus predicted that a muslim would become president of this country .Is this christian state pre-judus?No cant be.Jesus wasnt.Jesus was hebrew & in the translation of the torah into what they call the bi-ble(He didnt come to change the word) so who started christianity?Wasnt ISA or translated from hebrew, greek, latin,& when they was thaught english it became jesus.Why dont people become as children again & ask why or find out for themselves instead of BLIND FOLLOWING! Its in the books of history.Dark ages are still here .If u were smart u would be tortured,the world is round but many people were killed for even mentioning that FACT!
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schaalka1 year, 3 months ago
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I am a political science major and have followed Baracks career. He is a very undecided person who will change his direction just to win the nominations. He did this in Ill. and he has done it during his campaign. I don't care about his religious views. I just don't believe a word the man says. I am a democrate that will be voting republican. All a person has to do is check his record, some in Chicago believe he made it where he is at by being bought but there is no proof of that. I just think he is a liar.
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avengerguy351 year, 3 months ago
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It's funny how zealous people are trying to "convince" us that Obama isn't a Muslim. He may not practice the "religion of peace" (sic), but any religious scholar will tell you that anyone born to a Muslim is a Muslim. I could care less, as he's a marxist prick who belongs to a racist black church, so he ain't winning any presidency. You "rock star lovers" can drop dead, this is about the Presidency. No America-hating admitted doper is getting my vote.
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mseuroanglobelle1 year, 3 months ago
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IN HUSSEIN OBAMAS BOOK HE SAID "IN THE END I WILL STAND WITH MY MUSLIM BROTHERS"
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HE IS A MUSLIM, A LIAR, A SOCIALIST,AND WOULD RATHER KISS UP TO EUROPEAN SOCIALISTS AND WORK OUT THAN VISIT OUR WOUNDED TROOPS. HUSSIEN OBAMA CANNOT SPEAK WITHOUT A TELE PROMPTER, AND EXAMPLE OF THAT IS SAYING AIRING UP YOUR TIRES AND GETTING A TUNE UP WOULD SAVE AS MUCH OIL AS "THEY" WANT TO DRILL.....HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT, HUSSIEN OBAMA HAS MADE A WORLD CLASS FOOL OF HIMSELF AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. WE REPUBLICANS CANT WAIT FOR THAT JOKE IN DENVER CALLED THE DEMOCRAT NATIONAL CONVENTION...EVEN HILLARY CLINTON IS BACK IN THE MIX -
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marcyshamb1 year, 3 months ago
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I think that the reason folks have trouble with him today and what he believes
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is because when he was in Muslim Dominated countrys he attended two schools...
one christian and one public but muslim dominated. He registered in both as a muslim.
While attending the public one he both played and woshiped in a Mosque....so says those
who played with him then. They went with him so they would know.
Early ninties in the USA he converted and joined his wifes church...christian but a rather
afrocentric nationalist christian church whose leadership and many members have
racist and negative thoughts about the USA and whites....
Is it any wonder then that when he says he is a christian, his pastor had a big influence on him while he doesn't agree with anyhthing his pastor says that folks don't believe him.
I believe he will be what ever he needs to be...a muslim in a muslim dominated nation and a christian in a christian..... and that goes to what he is really about and again why many folks
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obamaboy1 year, 3 months ago
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you all hae to watch this video clip, its very interesting and true
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avengerguy351 year, 3 months ago
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By the way, all of you leftist slime can stick your "racist" comments. Voting is a RIGHT, and people have the RIGHT to use any factors they want to decide who to vote for. I would not vote for Obamamama under any circumstances, but I'd vote for Michael Steele or write in Larry Elder any day for any office. Now, slimeballs, go back to talking about McCain's age, you hypocrites.
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marcyshamb1 year, 3 months ago
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I did see Obamas speech in Germany and its one I just can't forget.
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Keep in mind that the audience, for the most part, were concert goers,
partying and drunk from the previous concert. Still, over twelve percent
of Germany's population are immigrants and most of that is Muslim
immigrants disallusioned with Western Civilization, Germany and the
rest of non Muslim Europe. the other 88 percent are leftist, mostly still
feeling a lot of guilt over the Holocaust and are more then open to any
speech that brings up US treatment of its minorities...ie blacks and
Native Americans.
Obama stood before this crowd and opened with remarks on how
the USA hasn't done a good job in that area very well...but his presence
and the fact that he will be president is a promise that things are about
to change. LOL....just what a German, a leftist and a Muslim immigrant
hostile to the USA want to hear.
For myself.....comparing the Holocaust to Slavery and Native American
issues in the USA is very old as I have heard it more than I like....but,
emagine my shock when Obama stood before Germany and the world and did it
as a candidate for the Presidency of the USA
I am sure those Muslims and Germans feel real good to know Obama is
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angelic1231 year, 3 months ago
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Okay, so let's say, Obama isn't a muslim. He professes to be a Christian. Yes he did indeed go to a Christian church. Ironically, he left that church after attending it for twenty years and having his children baptized in it. Why? Because his beloved church spewed forth not only raciism but black supremacy. There's one flip flop. Ooops. The bigger question is th
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