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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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Natureboy1 year, 4 months ago
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"Does that make Obama a Christian or a Muslim?"
No. Belief systems are acquired, not hereditary.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 7) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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halpie1 year, 4 months ago
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IF HALF HIS FAMILY ARE CHRISTIANS AND HALF ARE MUSLIMS AS YOU SAID THEN I GUESS HE IS FROM THE MUSLIM HALF SINCE HE CHANGED HIS NAME FROM BARRY OTERO TO BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA. TRUST ME HE IS A MUSLIM AND HE WILL DESTROY THIS COUNTRY
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dissent1 year, 4 months ago
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once all this gets sorted out maybe we need to address why people have a problem with muslims. these being some of the same people pushing christianity onto china for the sake of "freedom of religion"
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alakazam1 year, 4 months ago
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Have many of those people have you heard shed a tear for the Falun Gong ...probably enslaved within walking distance of the Olympic Stadium?
Our Leaders, almost to the individual, are corrupt. They are becoming servants to the people who are paying the bills on their extravagant lifestyles instead of the people who empowered them.
Think about all the loans to the US from the Chinese Government. There are A LOT of bad War and political loans that are gonna come due soon.
What bugs me is that the Cash acquired from these loans was wasted in the most frivolous and destructive of enterprises....War.
If anyone thinks politicians will slay a goose that lays Golden Eggs they have a very incomplete awareness of human nature.
There are people who quite unknowingly have become the very thing they claim to hate...attempting to silence voices in fear of Truth being revealed.
They believe they have a right to FORCE another to THEIR way of thinking.
And if they can't force you? They think they have the right to kill you.
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Thinker221 year, 4 months ago
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> maybe we need to address why people have a problem with muslims.
Maybe. Most people on this planet have a problem with Muslims because thousands of Muslim extremists murdered tens of thousands innocent men, women and children in almost every country in the world... and becasue these thousands of Muslim extremists are supported by tens or even hundreds of millions of other Muslims.
How do you suggest to "address" this problem ? Please consider that blaming others (Jews, Christians, "Neocons", etc.) for Islamist violence will not work.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 7) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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super-sunshine1 year, 4 months ago
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What a wonderfully short sighted opinion.... The Muslims, the Jews... the Christians... the Neocons... all have a group of illhearted people that have done things that keep the viscious circle alive. The problem is if you decide to react in the same fashion what good will come of it? You only become like the worst of those groups.
There are Millions of great Muslims, Jews, and Christians... people only like to look at the wrong in the world.... leading that group is the Neocons!!(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 8) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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super-sunshine1 year, 4 months ago
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Does your family determine what is in faith you follow? Or does the individual? Well if one is a sheep he or she will follow... but with a little intelligence one will decide on his/her own. I was raised Christian...My whole family is Christian..... but not any more...Inshallah, I hope he becomes our next President:)
that video above... O'My... It makes me ashamed of our national education standards! One foreign word that folks don't know... has such a negative impact and no one understands its true meaning... or that to run for president you have to be born here... WOW... really that lady didn't know that? They picked some of the least brightest to speak about Ombma...... Media loves to swing their story so they will dig anywhere I guess.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 2) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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cedric781 year, 4 months ago
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didnt norstradomus predicted that a muslim would become president of this country. oh yeah people dont remember thier His story or read!
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Goppy1 year, 4 months ago
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Remember this video, jovial?
Please pass it around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTgqQ2_KQkc
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 4 months ago
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Complete LIE. INCORRECT. Sir. Barack Obama has never EVER been a Muslim, and he did NOT attend a Muslim school, nor was he brought up with Muslim beliefs. he was raised by his white mother and grandparents.
You're making yourself sound VERY ignorant.
I can't say I love Obama to death, but NOTHING makes me more ANGRY than to see people spread LIES.
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mivan41 year, 4 months ago
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Well, quit doing it then and do some research! If you are born to a Muslim parent you are automatically Muslim, unless you denounce that religion and if you do denounce the religion you are put on a hit list. Barrack hasn't denounced that religion and he belongs to a church that BELIEVES that you can be BOTH Muslim and Christian and MANY in Rev Wright's church profess to be BOTH! Does this mean that Obama Hasn't truly changed no, but considering the current situation a wise man would wonder about things LIKE Obongo obama, Baracks half brother who is a LAU terrorist! and according to Barracks own biography remained muslim because Obango viewed Christianity as weak due to the Christian belief in Forgivness. Barrack said he is proud of his brother in the that same book and Barrack associates with other terrorists. THERE simply is TOOOOOO many connections to even consider him for presidency, In the Quaran one is allowed to lie to another if they are not of the book Kquadaffy sp? has called Obama - "Our Muslim brother"
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mivan41 year, 4 months ago
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Wrong, I actually think Obama may well be christian lets say 60% sure, but I still have reservations.
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Tangent0011 year, 4 months ago
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"If you are born to a Muslim parent you are automatically Muslim,"
Obama wasn't born to Muslim parents. His birth father was apostate at the time.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 8) (recursion depth : 6) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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tbkennedy531 year, 4 months ago
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He went to a school in Indonesia that required Islamic training. He was registered as a Muslim. He has said himself that he even knows the prayers but is now a Christian. So why not believe his own words?
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 4 months ago
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It has been thoroughly shown that on that one little scrap of paper from that school, his FATHER's religion was listed next to his name, as was customary when filling out that paperwork.
Still wasn't an Islamic school, though.
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Tangent0011 year, 4 months ago
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Yes, Obama attended an Indonesian public school (not a madrassa) for two years. He also attended a Catholic school for two years. Doesn't that make him Catholic? I'm sure they 'required Catholic training'.
"So why not believe his own words?" I DO believe his own words:
In an interview published in Christianity Today magazine in January, 2008, Obama said regarding his beliefs "I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful."
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 4 months ago
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And as we all know, anyone who doesn't sit next to you in a pew every Sunday is going to Hell..Right??
(by the way, I think the Imperial Grand Dragon of your local chapter sits right behind you)..He voted for Bush twice too!(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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jordan111 year, 4 months ago
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he converted from Muslim years ago after an upbringing in Islamic beliefs.>>>
Upbringing by whom?(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago
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coral; if you lie, lie well.
No one here is going to be fooled by your blither about Obama converting from islam.
This isn't the 12%.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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Tangent0011 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama.htm
In an interview published in Christianity Today magazine in January, 2008, Obama said regarding his beliefs "I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful."
Um, that sounds pretty specific to me...(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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Obama's reasoning for not wearing the pin was because it was a hollow way of expressing patriotism. I have never wore a flag pin in my life and I never intend too; however, I am not an evil terrorist sympathizer or a Muslim..
Most Muslims I've met have assimilated very well into US society... like all ethnic groups that come to the United States eventually do. They'd not be offended by an American flag pin.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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BB641 year, 4 months ago
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So you're a left-wing liberal whack job too? JUST KIDDING... But as a person who fought for this country along with several million others, I am concerned when someone who could become Command-in-Chief refuses to wear a small flag pin because he might offend the Berkley crowd or claiming it would be a hallow gesture. I've heard him recite the pledge when pushed but it was clearly a political move, not the move of a patriot.
When John McCain recites the Pledge, you know he understands the meaning, to him they're not simply 31 words forming a sentence. It is a pledge or promise to the nation he's loved his whole life. He's proven it by his life's work in service to the American people. I am not a fan of McCain, but I know his love of country is far greater then most.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 7) (recursion depth : 5) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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Goppy1 year, 4 months ago
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What I find really scary is that you assess patriotism based upon flag pins.
You do such a disservice to our nation, to our culture.
When you comment, I recognize how valuable it is that our military answers to Civilians.
I'd like to ask you how it is you ... 'know' ... McCain has a love of this country far greater than most??
I'm sure Carol McCain thought her husbands love for HER was far greater than most ... and he chose to walk away from her.
LOL!!!
You really are some piece of work.
I Thank God we have Civilian Control of the Military. Can we all imagine an army of 'political thinkers' such as yourself? Our nation would disappear faster than a copy of the Constitution left on a Key West beach in front of an oncoming Hurricane.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 8) (recursion depth : 6) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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buckncindykill1 year, 4 months ago
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You've made some stupid comments before Goppy, but this is definitely the dumbest I have read so far.
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Lurch1 year, 4 months ago
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lmao. John McCain does not understand the pledge or any promise to his country.
Look at how he has attacked vets!
McCain:
voted against armor
voted against troop funding
voted against VA funding five times
voted against equal time with family to combat
was against the New GI bill
and so forth
McCain is a traitor to all vets
Face it, McCain would be a horrible CinC who would continue the disgraceful treatment of our military as fodder that the Bush admin started.
Actions speak louder than words, and votes speak louder than some stupid made-in-China flag pin.
Oh, why didn't McCain wear his flag pin the other day? Oh, why hasn't Bush worn his for almost all of his presidency? Anti-american or do you only apply your obtuse standards to Dems? [question answers itself but what the heck...](comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 8) (recursion depth : 6) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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Goppy1 year, 4 months ago
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That's probably why GI's overseas are contributing to Obama's campaign SIX to ONE compared to McCain.
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NOBAMA081 year, 4 months ago
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Is being a P.O.W more or less honorable than fighting? He was captured not kednapped, I'm pretty sure he wasnt picked up in central park.
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cushi1 year, 4 months ago
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Perhaps you would do well to stop obsessing over trivial things and take a long, hard look at the truly important issues. There is no way in he(double 11) anyone with common sense would prefer more GWB BS over someone who is young, energetic, idealist, hopeful, willing to make changes to benefit the majority instead of the selfish, petty minority of Americans, learns quickly from past mistakes and doesn't repeat them over and over and over, knows the art of negotiation, and is genuinely concerned that this nation, under God, has the best leadership possible, not just the status quo. Obama, though not perfect, is the best thing to hit the political scene in 8 long years of famine! And I do believe his extraordinary abilities coupled with his humbleness and willingness to weigh all sides of an issue will make him an even greater leader as time progresses.
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Shadowolf1 year, 4 months ago
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BB64;
NEWS FLASH!!!
...being a Veteran does not, in and of itself confer Honor...it merely sets a standard of Honor for a person to live by...the choices a person makes, the decisions they adopt...THESE define Honor...look at John McCain in light of how he lives his life, his choices and decisions, his votes,...
...then ask yourself this...if he was so "honorable"; why would he need to wage a campaign based solely on lies,smears and spin...
...oh, one more question...is a person who puts narrow partisan precepts above the health and welfare of this Nation Honorable??? Is somebody who discards the principles of Justice, and the Rights of WE THE PEOPLE...are such people honorable???(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 8) (recursion depth : 6) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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Shadowolf1 year, 4 months ago
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BB-64
NEWS FLASH!!!
...being a Veteran does not, in and of itself confer Honor...it merely sets a standard of Honor for a person to live by...the choices a person makes, the decisions they adopt...THESE define Honor...look at John McCain in light of how he lives his life, his choices and decisions, his votes,...
...then ask yourself this...if he was so "honorable"; why would he need to wage a campaign based solely on lies,smears and spin...
...oh, one more question...is a person who puts narrow partisan precepts above the health and welfare of this Nation Honorable??? Is somebody who discards the principles of Justice, and the Rights of WE THE PEOPLE...are such people honorable???(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 8) (recursion depth : 6) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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Ratskii1 year, 4 months ago
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There was an amusing video that came out after the right first began pushing the "he won't wear a flag pin" argument. I showed numerous photos of Obama wearing a flag pin and of McCain not wearing a flag pin. It just depends on the time, day and picture.
"But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore, they're already overcrowded by your dirty little war, now Jesus don't like killing, no matter what the reason for, and your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore.
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alakazam1 year, 4 months ago
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The relevance of an answer either yes or no escapes me entirely.
I could have relatives somewhere who worship Cthulu, would you thereby be able to infer that I do as well?(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 2) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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Why?
My parents are Christians. Devout Christians. I attended Sunday school on occasion. However, I am more of an agnostic then anything else. I am not a Christian. Using your logic, I am a Christian. But I'm not.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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I've seen this poster make a good comment, on occasion.
However, if he still believes Obama is a Muslim and Muslims are evil, then I think he has some issues he needs to work out.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 8) (recursion depth : 6) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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alakazam1 year, 4 months ago
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Mace is one of those kind of folks who believes things because he ALWAYS has. Young, impressionable, passionate...That's okay as long as he keeps his mind open to Fact.
The Truth shall set you Free :)
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dissent1 year, 4 months ago
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"That's okay as long as he keeps his mind open to Fact."
his response has just said he's not even open to logic(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 10) (recursion depth : 8) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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dissent1 year, 4 months ago
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alakazam: "I could have relatives somewhere who worship Cthulu, would you thereby be able to infer that I do as well?"
HMMace: "YES"
well, any hope of intelligent reasoning just evaporated with that response :|(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 7) (recursion depth : 5) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 4 months ago
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Stop already, will ya..You people gave us George Bush, hasn't that stimulated some form of humility?
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Bacalao1 year, 4 months ago
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No, they are really proud of him. they not only want a president that starts a needless war in Iraq, they want to replace him with one that wants to start a war with Russia( or in McCain speak it would be the Soviet Union).
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JESUSWorshiper1 year, 4 months ago
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Bush has not been a bad president. He didnt choose the war. our land was attacked first then We went to war.what will a man who says he is muslim if it comes to it, allow when we are attacked by muslims again.
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djn3nunez31 year, 4 months ago
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"He didnt choose the war."
Where have you been. He most certainly choose to invade and occupy Iraq. He knew well that the evidence against Saddam's WMD as well as his connection to the group that attacked us was a hyperbole. This administration and a complict media mis-lead the American people into believing the "Fixed" facts surrounding Iraq.
That makes him a bad president. Not to mention his administration destroying 30 years of bipartisan environmental work.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 4 months ago
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Anyone wanna tell me when the Republican party became the Christian party? I still don't understand.
Believe it or not, there are those out there who are hetero pro-life gun-owning Christian Democrats.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 55) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 55)Reply loading ...
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cushi1 year, 4 months ago
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He chose war with Iraq instead of war with the country that attacked! That's what cowards and bullies do, pick on somebody they think is weaker because they're afraid the real offender might just kick their butt! And what a surprise, the Iraqi's have been kicking it pretty good, too....and they want us the heck out of their country!
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Shadowolf1 year, 4 months ago
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Jesus don't support hateful liars, it was Saudi Arabia that was behind 9/11/01, Obama never claimed to be Muslim, (Check Snopes.com) and only those who are anti-American use lies,smears, and spin to attempt to give their 'candidate' some sort of credibility...don't bother attempting the "you did it first' that set of lies done got old...
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NOBAMA081 year, 4 months ago
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That has got to be one of the most ignorant analogies i have ever read. Naturally, from birth, your family are the first people to have influence on you, the first stimulas on your brain. Hence, there is a good chance that fifty percent of his family affected fifty percent of his thoughts and beliefs, quite possibly planting the seed for life-long muslim values, a religion that is openly anti-amercan, at least to some extent. Your family cannot naturally influence your gender.
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