Debunking anti-Obama e-mails »
Posted By jovial 10 months, 2 weeks ago in News
Error-filled chain e-mails designed to scare voters away from Barack Obama are circulating widely on the Internet. Salon deconstructs a pair, one smearing the candidate, the other his wife.
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jovial10 months, 2 weeks ago
I submitted a story a couple of days ago about the Obama Muslim myth. It recieved over 500 comments! People agreed from all sides of the political spectrum that it was a myth. There were some, however, that continued to cling to those falsehoods. In an attempt to clarify the situation again I submitted this story. Please take note of the individuals that still believe these falsehoods and question them as to why they really believe these things. I think it has nothing with what they really believe deep down inside. I think it's what they want others to believe.
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capecoralM10 months, 2 weeks ago
OMG are we here at propeller in the tank for Obama or what. He Obama admitted that his conversion to Christianity took him awhile. Regarding his conversion experience, Obama said, " It wasn’t an epiphany. It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them. For me, I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me."
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"Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims"
Rony Amir, Manager, Bank Mandiri, Jakarta
"He was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong', at that time, he was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion."
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TheRealizer10 months, 2 weeks ago
I am not an Obama supporter, not because of religion or lack thereof, but simply because I consider him an Eliteist and not cognizant with the problems facing the working class in the country........
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capecoralM10 months, 2 weeks ago
Ok let s see. Obama's Grandfather was a Muslim. His Father was a Muslim. His Step father was a Muslim. His whole family is still Muslim. And Obama was never a practicing Muslim? OK whatever you say.
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vor10 months, 2 weeks ago
Your talking about an 8 year old here, are you not? Brought up in a totally different culture.
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You people are simply beyond desperate. Seriously, you people make me
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wardcranston10 months, 2 weeks ago
Please define "Eliteist." And it is "cognizant of" not "cognizant with." You might want to check that definition, too. I find it astonishing that these circulating myths still exist and have some effectiveness. Even the use of the word "eliteist," which was certainly not widely used as either noun or adjective by the average person until its recent application to Barack Obama has that same sensibility. It seems incredibly cynical and somehow vulgar that there are political operatives that will take certain words or stories that they know people will not know, and will never bother to research, and turn them into catch-phrases that can be so simultaneously meaningless and damaging. Anyone who actually knows what the word "eliteist" means knows that the philosophy of the Republic Party is fundamentally eliteist...and that's not an insult, by the way.
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Endoscopy10 months, 2 weeks ago
Elitist- –noun 1. practice of or belief in rule by an elite.
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2. consciousness of or pride in belonging to a select or favored group
Obama's father and grandfather were wealthy and were part of the government of Kenya. That is how his father got the scholarship to the University in Hawaii. When he left and abandoned his wife and son he went back to his first wife in Kenya and was part of the government. OBama's mother married another Muslim and went to Indonesia with him. He later was sent to Hawaii to live with his grandmother. She was wealthy and put him in an exclusive school in Hawaii. He went to Occidental College in LA and Columbia for two years each. Then he went to Harvard Law School where he graduated with J.D. magna cu m laude. Any lawyers dream.
He comes from wealth and had a great education. His accomplishments place him in a small select group. He acts like he has the best answer for everyone.
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dunkirk10 months, 2 weeks ago
when you look at who still clings to that myth its the 20%ers who cant bring up any informtion on WHY you should support their candidate other then by posting negatives about the others. REPUBLICAN politics at itsd finest.
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tehranchik10 months, 2 weeks ago
I have to say--the smear website has grown since my last visit
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allamerican12310 months, 2 weeks ago
is he still a black man from Hawaii named Hussein or is that a myth?
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Why should I vote for him? and don't say change for ch**st sake-
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lbrtyordeath10 months, 2 weeks ago
How in the HELL does the name Hussein mean anything at all?
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I live in Missouri, the state run for the past four years by the horribly corrupt Matt Blunt. He is in trouble for various sorts of things, deleted e-mails, cover-ups, etc. Facing impending litigation, Gov. Blunt is the first Missouri governer in MANY MANY years (50+ I believe) who has not ran for re-election.
So, we have Jay NIXON running for the Dems for Governer of Missouri.
I don't see anyone equating him to tricky ****, just because they share the same last name.
Your choice to use the facts that a) he is black; b) he is Hawaiian; and (the dumbest of all) c) that his middle name is Hussein as reasons not to vote for him show the depth of ignorance and childishness that most likely guides every decision you make. And that's sad.
Do some research. Quit listening to Rush Limbaugh. READ.
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miklkit10 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey! Let's hear it for Muhammad Ali! Or is it Cassuis Clay?
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Endoscopy10 months, 2 weeks ago
There is another myth that you promote. He is 1/2 white, part Arab and part black. But people call him Black. Why? That is just a part of his race.
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There have been several stories about the racial background of his father and it get confusing. Since he is half white why is that portion being ignored. I adopted two multiracial children. Half white, part black and part American Indian. Same thing happens. Why have them be Black.
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Bkumm10 months, 2 weeks ago
Does anyone seriously believe that if there was a question in Senator Obama's mind about whether or not he was a U.S. citizen able to run for the Presidency that he wouldn't have had that checked? I use that example because that's the one I got most recently.
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People need to pull their heads out of the sand and THINK about what's being said about Senator Obama. This is the usual Republican/Conservative smear and jeer that we've come to know and hate. I'm so tired of this crap. If Senator McCain can't stand on the issues and on his plan for America then he shouldn't win. It's that simple. Why do you folks have to lie and distort everything? I just don't get it. Is keeping power more important than a better place for your children and grandchildren? I guess it is.-
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chuck-the-canuck10 months, 2 weeks ago
"If Senator McCain can't stand on the issues and on his plan for America then he shouldn't win. It's that simple. Why do you folks have to lie and distort everything? I just don't get it. Is keeping power more important than a better place for your children and grandchildren? I guess it is."
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slate10 months, 2 weeks ago
For the record.
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This con does not believe Obama is a Muslim, I was smart enough not to buy into that rumor. He was also born to an American mother, that makes him an American.
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Mdiar10 months, 2 weeks ago
Great! Let us see how many people show up just to call us ignorant fools for believing a man named Hussein is a Christian... I can't wait for the laughs to start... though seeing the gullibility of the general populace will be saddening.
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lbrtyordeath10 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm going to change my name to Adolf Nixon.
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Can you see that Presidential bid?
"ADOLF NIXON '12!!" ::smiles:: "You can trust me.."
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bruhaha10 months, 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately you are right. What we can do though, is make it known where these "facts" about Obama are from so that they don't grow legs like they sometimes do when the mainstream media picks up on them......the media is often just as bad (worse really because they should know better) at not bothering to look up the sources of all this crap.
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slate10 months, 2 weeks ago
Too bad we can't send emails to McCain's voter to scare them off too but they don't know what computers are!
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Well that makes sense! How are those folks sending emails again if not by computers?
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alakazam10 months, 2 weeks ago
I got into a discussion about out current President with an individual who just turned 68 the other day. Someone that's brilliant and a very successful businessman. He never touches a computer.
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The conversation turned to the election and he asked for whom I was voting. This is a good friend and I really didn't mind the question.
I told him that I didn't like my choices and he immediately asked me what I meant by that. I tried explaining why I felt that way and he was completely bewildered about what was going on in this Country.
Out of touch in so many ways it was frightening.
Flat out denies well established facts about an incredible number of things.
He doesn't believe NSPD-51 exists because Congress wouldn't let a President get by with that sort of thing.
He is gonna vote for McCain come hell or high water.
That scares me a little.
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Spadecaller10 months, 2 weeks ago
While I don't agree with much of the right wing ideology that is espoused, it takes two wings to fly. Something this nation has stopped doing. We are too busy wallowing in the mud to see and do what is best for our nation.
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Perhaps that is one of the reasons that our misguided electorate allows both sides of the aisle to get away with all the corruption in Washington.
Mainstream media loves fueling the animosity between races, gender, woman's rights, Republicans, Democrats, Jews, Christians, Protestants, evangelists, atheists, Muslims, Mexicans, immigrants, Gays, ... and don't forget those Porto Ricans who can't vote in elections, but can vote in the primary...
If they can keep us fighting among ourselves, the corporate hoodlums running this country can stay in power.
Keep up the good work, guys!
We love the cost of oil and gas. We love shopping for food we can no longer afford and that is not even safe to eat. We love giving away our jobs to other nations, they need the work more than us anyway. We love staying out of the doctors offices because we cannot afford insurance or qualify for it. We love moving into cozy apartments and getting rid of our expensive mortgages. We love buying cheap toys from China that make our children sick. We love selling our ports and highways to foreign companies. Who needs all the expense and taxes on them anyway. We can't wait for another war to wipe out the rest of Social Security and who needs Medicare; that's for poor old people who failed to save enough anyway.
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Endoscopy10 months, 2 weeks ago
You did fine until the middle. Then you went into a very liberal rant.
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There are pros and cons for most of that rant.
For example who is responsible for the cost of gas?
We have to import most of our oil because the drilling for it has not been allowed where there are known oil deposits. Refineries have not been built and some were knocked down when the law forced conversions on them that the smaller companies could not afford. Nuclear power plants are not allowed to be built.
Could these things impact the price of gas today?
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Spadecaller10 months, 2 weeks ago
tiredofwhiners
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slate10 months, 2 weeks ago
I haven't recieved any either. I have recieved a few about McCain being too old and senile.
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Mdiar10 months, 2 weeks ago
Honestly, my mail service seems to do great at getting rid of spam. I have yet, in over two or three years of using it, to receive a single "Enlarge your penis!" spam mail. On the other hand, I had an ex-girlfriend who used the same service and got them rather consistently. Maybe a mix-up occurred?
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Oh, back to the topic, I've not gotten a single one of these e-mails yet. Lucky me!-
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StillUnashamed10 months, 2 weeks ago
Add me to that list of not ever receiving an anti-Obama email. I have heard friends in conversation mention that Obama is a Muslim and I quickly correct them.
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There is enough true facts about Obama, much of it coming from his own lips, to scare any independently thinking person that made up and untrue claims not only are unnecessary, they tend to have the opposite effert of elliciting sympathy for him.
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wdfisher5710 months, 2 weeks ago
Mr. Corsi, in his book "Obama Nation", documents a long history of Obamas financial deals in all of of his political campaigns which were either directly financed or anonymously funded by corporations who were either owned outright or run by Muslim finaciers or Middle East power brokers living here in the states, incling Mr. Resko. Much of what he cites, are direct quotes from articles and investigations undertaken by the Chicago Tribune and its staff investigative reporters, folks who are in the best position to report on the comings and gouings inside Chicago politics if anyone ever was. After reading these reports, its a wonder that Obama can even show his face in public, much less run for the highest office in the land. Only the truly partisan Democrat Party faithful, longing for a return to power in Washington by any means necessary or or the basically politically naive, would vote for this guy. I cannot believe how much Mr. Corsi has found to write about on Mr. Obamas past that the national media, for whatever reason, has decided was unworthy of the public knowing about the candidate before this next election. We have all been sold a bill of goods by a slick group of radical left leaning political activists in my opinion.
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Mdiar10 months, 2 weeks ago
Mr. Corsi has been known to associate with white power activists and to slander people without basis before.
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Not a credible source. Many of his assertions were debunked long ago.
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tbkennedy5310 months, 2 weeks ago
One reason some of these "myths" have legs is because Obama has lied so many times that people may wonder if he's lying again. I take him at his word that he's a Christian. If you look at his site designed to fight the rumors he says he was never trained in Islam or was ever a Muslim. That is not factual he was in Indonesia. This is documented and verified by former teachers and his half sister. He says he would have voted for the born alive bill if it had the federal language. Well it did and he didn't. The list goes on and on.
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Dionys10 months, 2 weeks ago
You're the one spreading lies. I was in Indonesia. I'm not Muslim. Neither is Obama, neither WAS Obama.
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The question remains, however -- So what if he was? Honestly are you that racist? Evangelicals spout garbage about tidal waves being the wrath of God against Muslims and earthquakes being the wrath of God against Gays and Katrina being the wrath of God against homosexuals, abortion and bad morals in New Orleans and you're spouting off about Muslims? You should worry about the evanglical end-of-worlders who hold so much sway and power in Washington. The kind of rhethoric they spout is much more scary than any moderate Muslims.
Stop with your lies and scare tactics. Try to embrace some morals.
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Mdiar10 months, 2 weeks ago
Let's wait until after the conventions and we have nominees, at least.
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Klarissa10 months, 2 weeks ago
simon
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"We know whom we will vote for and we've known for months. This thing has gone on too long ..."
This time, since one of the candidate was an unknown, with a lot questions about experience and leadership, the long campaign will allow enough exposure to show the true colors of the both candidates. -
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sortofcute0110 months, 2 weeks ago
PRESIDENT MCCAIN THE PATRIOT......SOUNDS BETTER AND BETTER......
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sortofcute0110 months, 2 weeks ago
PRESIDENT MCCAIN THE PATRIOT......SOUNDS BETTER AND BETTER......
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