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Posted By Spinward 1 year, 4 months ago in News

McCain is now leading, for the first time, in the Electoral College when removing all leaners and simply going by poles.
In order for Obama to win, he will need to, somehow, shift momentum away from McCain and move several key states back to his column. Can he do it?

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    Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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    The winds of change, they are blowin'... and Obama can't be happy about it.

    He will be without his teleprompter in the debates upcoming this fall, his "misstatements" on his lack of support for abortion survivors, and the task of picking a qualified VP that doesn't over-shadow him... It's a full plate for a junior senator.

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      White_Knight1 year, 4 months ago

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      I was watching Obama today and he looked like he was showing signs of wear! I have really and honestly tried to keep a very open mind as a conservative who feels somewhat abandoned by President Bush, but the more of Obama I see, the more "not ready" he appears.
      I really think we would be better off with McCain while Obama gets a little more seasoning.

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        Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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        Hi Knight,
        I suppose we'll know who it's going to be soon enough, but with so few qualifications and experience, HOW can he pick a VP that's not better than he is?
        Tough deal all around.

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          buckncindykill1 year, 4 months ago

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          Exactly. Anyone he picks would be infinitely more qualified than he is, except maybe Opus or Bugs Bunny. Well, come to think of it............

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      chb1 year, 4 months ago

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      According to an article from July 7, 2008, issue #27 Assistant Editor Pat Shannon of "The American Free Press' B

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        chb1 year, 4 months ago

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        According to an article from July 7, 2008, issue #27 Assistant Editor Pat Shannon of "The American Free Press' B

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          chb1 year, 4 months ago

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          in an article dated July 7, 2008, Pat Shannon Assistant Editor of The American Free Press wrote in issue #27 that Barack Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the office of President of the United States of America because he is not a natural born in the USA. His fathet being an Alien and his mother not satisfying the requirement of the Constitution. Furthermore strong doubts remains concerning Barack Obama Hawaii place of birth .

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            CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago

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            While it is true that Obama's father was an Alien, I will point out that space travelers have been in this country since well before Roswell.

            I don't want you to think I am mocking you ha ha because I do ha see the consitutional dilema of someone born in a foreign land like panama being an issue. I do not know if McCain was unnaturaly born there and if his mother was satisfied; frankly i think speculation on such things is tacky.

            Strong doubts do remain; and can remain, and will remain. It takes no fact or honesty to keep doubt going, chb. All it takes is a select group of people with no conscience and damn little sense.

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          buckncindykill1 year, 4 months ago

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          Hold on a minute.............I can't stop laughing................I'll be right back!!

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            Endoscopy1 year, 4 months ago

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            Electoral-vote.com has a similar projection. The only difference is that Virginia is still tied. A couple of weeks ago Obama had a big lead. This trend spells a disaster for Obama. He should get a traditional bump right after the convention. If the Democrat convention gets down and dirty like Hillary supporters are saying, it will be bad news and the bump might small or not be there at all. The Republicans will have theirs and they will get their traditional bump then.

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              Jordan1 year, 4 months ago

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              FiveThirtyEight.com still has Obama leading, but by a much smaller margin than last week: 272-266. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

              *wrings hands*

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              Hobe1 year, 4 months ago

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              cindy McCain John's 'WIFE' is a confessed drug user, first Lady? I Don't think so.....

              the McCain's need to take their BUDWIZER fartune and go somewhere and enjoy their RICK life....

              We don't need these pigs in Washington.......

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                tbkennedy531 year, 4 months ago

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                Wow, what a great post Hobe. Love the facts and concise arguments you've added to the discussion. Did it take all morning to put them together?

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                  buckncindykill1 year, 4 months ago

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                  Who's we?

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                    slate1 year, 4 months ago

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                    Who's we?

                    The 'voices' Buck all those 'voices' they tend to make him a bit edgy.

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                      buckncindykill1 year, 4 months ago

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                      Whew!! Thanks Slate. For a minute there I thought he was talking about sane people! He's talking about nutcase libs. Thanks!!

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                    Wolfie20071 year, 4 months ago

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                    Obama is a confessed drug user and drug dealer, President, don't think so. Dum dum, de, dumb. LMAO

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                      agoodlibertian1 year, 4 months ago

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                      When did Obama say he sold drugs, missed that one. Oh wait it is Wolfe, sieg heil, Wolfe. Typical republican-brainwashed and stupid.

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                        buckncindykill1 year, 4 months ago

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                        He's selling them to you right now. And you're smoking the hell out of 'em. Talk about brainwashed; I bet you can't wait to vote for this nanny state loving moron.

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                          agoodlibertian1 year, 4 months ago

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                          Better than a traltor. If you republicans only knew the truth about Mccain.
                          He would not get one vote, But you are all too brainwashed and stupid to even know what the truth is. Keep listen to fox news for your facts. Fools.

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                    slate1 year, 4 months ago

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                    cindy McCain John's 'WIFE' is a confessed drug user, first Lady? I Don't think so

                    Barack Obama a confessed drug user President? I don;t think so.

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                      bigG1 year, 4 months ago

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                      With the economic data presented today, don't count it out.

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                      4thchance1 year, 4 months ago

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                      Hey Hobe,
                      I guess you must have missed it when Obama spoke in public saying he used all sorts of ILLEGAL drugs in the past. Obama also said in his book that he used drugs.... Obama for president, I TRULY don't think so!

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                        Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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                        Well, 4thchance, I don't think that's coming from a reliable source.

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                        Klarissa1 year, 4 months ago

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                        hobe, Obama is a confessed drug user - and the "wife" isn't the one running for president, but Obama is.

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                          chb1 year, 4 months ago

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                          Hobe
                          If the swines had to elect a King they would first crowm you their Emperor

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                            chb1 year, 4 months ago

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                            Hobe if the swines want to elect a King to stay fair with you they should crown you their Emperor

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                              bomberbob1 year, 4 months ago

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                              Clinton did not inhale LOL

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                                Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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                                Why didn't Obama just say that also?

                                "I did drugs for years, I just never inhaled anything."

                                Worked once...

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                              Tangent0011 year, 4 months ago

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                              I think a lot will depend on his VP pick. There are still a lot of bitter Hillary supporters out there. Though I can't support it, other than a 'feeling', I think those spurned Clintonistas are significantly weighting the polls.

                              It will be interesting to see how the DNC plays out.

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                                Dionys1 year, 4 months ago

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                                No one who supported Hillary would support McSame.

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                                  abntv1 year, 4 months ago

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                                  50% of Clinton supporters have said they would either stay home or vote for McCain.

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                                    chb1 year, 4 months ago

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                                    Good show. The poles workers will have a break

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                                    4thchance1 year, 4 months ago

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                                    there's a poll out today that claims 25% of Hillary voters are voting Mccain!

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                                      automan9091 year, 4 months ago

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                                      Good. I welcome them to the winning side.

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                                        Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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                                        Some of them are pretty tough to love.

                                        They are supporting McCain because they know he only wants to serve one term... and they want Hillary in 2012.
                                        They can't get Hillary in 2012 if Obama wins.

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                                  ind061 year, 4 months ago

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                                  http://www.electoral-vote.com/
                                  For a more realistic view of how the states are placed, where the strong and weak support is and which states are still undecided I'd suggest the link above.
                                  The news is still good for Senator McCain as he is making strong gains in Missouri and Indiana while this map has the benefit of being more precise. By using the "Previous Report" function you can see the map change, going back as far as you'd like. The changes this month have not been in Sen. Obama's favor.
                                  This post presents an interesting, though fundamentally flawed way of looking at the electoral map. As an indicator of how the states would go this second, it's still not completely accurate as several key states have polls that conflict.
                                  Sen. Obama's electoral lead was not based, at least I never went along with a map that based his lead on this kind of jiggering of the data. Some states are still too close to call. Saying that they aren't and calling them for one candidate or another based on data that falls within the statistical margin of error is misleading. On 7/29 Rasmussen had Florida at +2 Obama, on 8/16 they have Florida at +2 McCain, until another poll comes out showing McCain steady at +2 or doing even better the best that can be said is is Sen. McCain may be moving ahead in Florida, certainly not that he has taken the state. Sen. McCain is similarly given the state of Virginia, even though he only enjoys a 1% lead. And he's given Ohio, though his support there is eroding. There is a reason why electoral maps show states as weak or strong for a specific candidate. This kind of all-or-nothing approach is disingenuous, but, if your goal is to make it appear that one candidate's loss is a fore-gone conclusion, it's something that might be effective.

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                                    ind061 year, 4 months ago

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                                    And, of course, the link is non functional.

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                                      Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago

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                                      It worked for me. But I know voodoo.

                                      I agree and I have had that site bookmarked for months. It was even my homepage for awhile!

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                                    abntv1 year, 4 months ago

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                                    I heard his brother was linving in an abandoned freight container.

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                                      Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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                                      We should start a drive to help Obama's brother!

                                      Let's see if Hannity could use some help!

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                                        joey-evans1 year, 4 months ago

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                                        I bet if Mrs Bush visited his abandoned freight container, she would claim that he "has it pretty good...better than what he was used to at home."

                                        JOEY EVANS

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                                        willottica1 year, 4 months ago

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                                        crap, double posted... tried to use the stop to edit quick before posting. SHould have just let it post.

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                                          willottica1 year, 4 months ago

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                                          From the description: "when removing all leaners and simply going by poles."

                                          You heard it here first: McCain has the Polish vote!!!

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                                            mivan41 year, 4 months ago

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                                            Bush promised no draft and he kept it. It's the democrats that have been pushing for the draft and in a big way. Amazingly though they still get the young vote!

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                                              CaptainLucid1 year, 4 months ago

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                                              What the hell are you talking about dems wanting the draft? Is this some sort of talking point from rush? Please show us where Obama supports the draft or stop making stuff up.

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                                                Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                Hey Captain,
                                                Every heard of that outspoken Republican, Charlie Rangel? Charman of the Ways and Means Committee?
                                                He is the last congressman to introduce a bill that would reinstate the draft:
                                                http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jan2007/draf-j12.shtml

                                                OH, WAIT... HE'S A DEMOCRAT!

                                                It is the Democratic Party that has particularly been pushing for discussion on the reintroduction of military conscription.

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                                                  mivan41 year, 4 months ago

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                                                  you see captain, I don't have to make stuff up the democrats supply me with all the material I need

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                                              thebossgirl11 year, 4 months ago

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                                              Ok guys, let's face it...McCain is older than dirt..he needs to go somewhere and retire.

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                                                Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                He only wants one term.
                                                That's why Hillary's voting for him.

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                                                  pc251 year, 4 months ago

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                                                  that's ok Obama is LOWER THAN DIRT

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                                                    CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                    Strong words.
                                                    You must be the kind of person who has high standards, Pc25.
                                                    I applaud you for that.

                                                    I bet you value honesty so high that you bite your tongue before you speak without reflecting first.

                                                    You must be the kind of upright, hand-shake-is-my-bond person they say is rare now-a-days; the sort who won't tolerate a politician playing soldier; the sort of patriot who grows furious when he sees a candidate use the flag as a political wrapper.

                                                    I bet you go out of your way to keep all the rules, not just the ones that make your life safer or more comfortable.

                                                    It is good to know there are people out there like you, pc25. Good stalwart honest souls who would never slander a man because they found him on the oposite political side; never tolerate a crime from someone because it was on the same side.

                                                    The country needs more like you.

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                                                  automan9091 year, 4 months ago

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                                                  Thats right. Hillary wants McCain to win
                                                  So does most of America.

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                                                    yonjuro1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                    Am I on the right forum here?

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                                                      CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                      I believe that is what Julius Caesar said shortly before the Incident.

                                                      Assuming you brought your knife, you are in the right place.

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                                                        Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                        LOL!!! Thanks.
                                                        ...a funny thing happened on the way to the thread.

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                                                      captgeobob1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                      With the news getting out about obama and his vote for infanticide and letting one of many half brothers rot in a hut in africa and living on $12.00 a month, just might make people take another look at this man that portrays himself in a much different light. Obama's people today put pressure of AOL to pull a story on his voting (infanticide) and I can't believe it, but they did. However you can find more on newsmax.com.

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                                                        Spinward1 year, 4 months ago

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                                                        I wished it wasn't true, but Obama is left-of-left on most issues and his ideas (the ones we know about) WILL NOT help the country.

                                                        I challenge ANYONE to prove otherwise.

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