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Posted By pc25 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsFROM INSTAPUNDIT
I TOLD YOU THAT IT WAS A BAD IDEA for Obama to bring up houses again.
It didn’t take long for John McCain to answer Barack Obama’s tweak on his supposed riches. Team McCain has a bona-fide television spot that will “air in key states” — most likely the same states in which Obama ran his ad. Obama can’t pretend he didn’t set the stage for this:
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pc251 year, 3 months ago
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Barack Obama knows a lot about housing problems. One of his “biggest fundraisers” helped him buy his million-dollar mansion. Purchasing part of the property he couldn’t afford.
From Obama, Rezko got “political favors” including “14 million from taxpayers.” Now, he’s a convicted felon, facing jail.
That’s a housing problem.
Obama opened the door for this in two different ways. First, as noted, he skewered McCain for not knowin how many houses he has. But in attacking McCain’s rather tenuous connections to Ralph Reed earlier this week, he made political associates fair game.-
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 3 months ago
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I love the deep voice of the announcer...sounds like he knows what he's talking about, huh...
Housing problem for Obama? How? He got his house, I assume he's living in it comfortably, and I'm sure he doesn't have a problem with it. He paid off the land next to his house in full...no problem.
Funny how the ad doesn't let you know specifically what the so-called "political favors" are...kinda vague, don't you think? I assume they have the facts to back this up and that it's not a rumor, as we're all used to seeing here...but considering the source, we'll never know...
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Sabretooth1 year, 3 months ago
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Geez Spinner, it has been a few hours and i am still waiting for the links to your facts...are you sure that this is not just more lies? Hmmm, it is almost like the GOP just makes stuff up and then their sheep get all excited for a day or so until no facts come out.
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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“Housing problem for Obama? How? He got his house, I assume he's living in it comfortably, and I'm sure he doesn't have a problem with it. He paid off the land next to his house in full...no problem”.
Thanks for asking!
The “House and property” that Obama got was worth $1.65 million, more than Obama could afford and the seller wanted to sell BOTH the house AND the empty adjacent lot at the same time.
In an AMAZING coincidence Rezko’s wife just happened to be at the same location on the same day looking to buy an empty lot!!!
The seller got what he wanted, sold both house and lot.
I haven’ heard of such an AMAZING coincidence since Duke Cunningham’s a$$ was hauled off to prison!
Hey I wonder if Cunningham and Rezko are in the same prison now? Humm?
Obama Paid $300,000 Less Than The Asking Price For His Mansion, While Tony Rezko’s Wife Paid Full Price For A
Vacant Lot Next Door On The Very Same Day.
“Two years ago, Obama bought a mansion on the South Side, in the
Kenwood neighborhood, from a doctor. On the same day, [Antoin ‘Tony’] Rezko’s wife, Rita Rezko, bought the vacant lot next
door from the same seller. The doctor had listed the properties for sale together. He sold the house to Obama for $300,000 below the asking price. The doctor got his asking price on the lot from Rezko’s wife.” (Tim Novak, “Obama And His Rezko Ties,”
Chicago Sun-Times, 4/23/07)
The Seller Of Obama’s Home “Wanted To Sell Both Properties At The Same Time.” “On the same day Obama closed on his house, Rezko’s wife bought the adjacent empty lot, meeting the condition of the seller who wanted to sell
both properties at the same time.” (Brian Ross and Rhonda Schwartz, “The Rezko Connection,” ABC News’ “The Blotter” Blog,-
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Dionys1 year, 3 months ago
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So let me see if I'm right here.
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Obama bought a house for BELOW the asking price (funny -- I did as well). His real estate agent's wife (also a real estate speculator) made sure he could buy the house by purchasing the empty lot thereby assuring a sale (and assuring an agents fee for her husband). Also assuring a sale for part of her lot, and allowing her to build for profit on the remaining portion of the lot.
Seriously. Is this the worst you can do? I know of at least three houses on double-plus lots that sold in this neighborhood under the asking price, after which the speculator who bought the house sold a portion of the empty lot and then developed the remaining lot. And that's within ten square blocks.
It's called the Real Estate Business and the heart of capitalism. What a bunch of whiners you people are. If he had violated even a rule of ethics you can be sure your attack dogs would have prosecuted long ago. Get a life. -
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Sabretooth1 year, 3 months ago
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Sorry Injest but i do not share your vast intellectual abilities, for a dunce like myself could you actually point out where the illegality lies? Might you also explain why the partisan DOJ under the Bush admin has not charged him to the full extent of the law? I am afraid i am left to ponder if he has actually done anything wrong or if you are just ****** off that he was smart enough to get himself an excellent deal and mayhap you were not?
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NoWayMan1 year, 3 months ago
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you got your first fact wrong.
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the seller was selling both pieces together or separately but wanted them to close on the same day. so, no sarcastically amazing coincidence took place, just a seller's stipulation.
I didn't even read the rest since you got your first point wrong.
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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”Funny how the ad doesn't let you know specifically what the so-called "political favors" are...kinda vague, don't you think? I assume they have the facts to back this up and that it's not a rumor, as we're all used to seeing here...but considering the source, we'll never know...”
True! However 48 thousand pages of court transcripts are a little hard to do in a 30 second ad. And lets not forget the ever evolving $50K to $250K campaign donations.
“Obama Provided Political Favors To Tony Rezko, Including
Writing Letters On His Behalf: “As A State Senator, Barack Obama Wrote Letters To City And State Officials Supporting His Political Patron Tony
Rezko’s Successful Bid To Get More Than $14 Million From Taxpayers To Build Apartments For Senior Citizens.”
(Tim Novak, “Obama’s Letters For Rezko,” Chicago Sun-Times, 6/13/07)
So far Rezko gave Obama $250K campaign donations and bought an empty lot $300K, $550K paid directly and indirectly to Obama and all Rezko got in return was
$14 Million of the Taxpayers money!
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 3 months ago
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Injest...
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Like I said, and I've seen this so I know....a great ad agency can distill those 48,000 pages down to a great 30 sec commercial if they know what they're doing. They could make an ad so great it would put Obama in his place and make him regret ever thinking about mentioning his opponent's homes...
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corl641 year, 3 months ago
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Funny you should mention Obamas writing skills. How is it that he would write all sorts of letters on this guys behalf, yet when he was the Editor of the Harvard Law Review, he never penned a single word? Maybe he just did not have anything to say while in college.
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Maybe .... being on a prestigious publication like this does not pay as well as writing endorsements to the state and city for your buddy to bilk the taxpayers out of their money?
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spkguy1 year, 3 months ago
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You want to see Ironic?
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"The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).
After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".
Please note the last two words, and the fact that it is exactly what they accuse Barack Obama of having " POOR JUDGMENT " mmmmmmm....
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StillUnashamed1 year, 3 months ago
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I find it interesting that of the Keating Five, 4 were democrats and one was Republican. The lone Republican and one Democrat were cleared, 3 Democrats convicted. And this is supposed to embarass the Republicans?
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Also, as to having exercised "poor jundment" that was 18-20 years ago. Experiences, both positive and negative, tend to refine one's judgment. Obama has had very little experience, has not been through the fire, thus his judgment has not been refined.
It is not hyprocritical to say Obama lacks good judgment today while acknowledging McCain lacked good judgment 18 years ago.-
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spkguy1 year, 3 months ago
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"It is not hyprocritical to say Obama lacks good judgment today while acknowledging McCain lacked good judgment 18 years ago."
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mmmm... I should have stated that its both "ironic " and " hypocritical" for McCain to accuse Obama of lacking "POOR JUDGMENT " when he himself was in fact has also been accused of lacking "POOR JUDGMENT" but like you and McCain you are both " StillUnashamed" which is also both
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mivan41 year, 3 months ago
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The poor judgment was the fact that McCain hesitantly went to the meeting, but when he found out what it FULLY was about he DENIED Keating any help THAT is why he was exonerated even the poor judgment charge is weak. Being there put McCain in a position where he looked guilty by association, but as investigation showed he gave Keatiing NO special favors! Now 3 of the 4 Democrats present did get convicted for granting special favors to Keating.
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Therefore John Glen and John McCain are the only ones who resisted the temptation that was presented. Those 2 were only guilty of hearing Keating out!-
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pc251 year, 3 months ago
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http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter7.html
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this link from the arizonia republic has a lot of information about the Keating 5 and supports the contentions made by you and mivan4-
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mivan41 year, 3 months ago
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Thanks allot pc that link came in very handy for me here
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/08/22/in-a-bind-gop-throws-kitchen-sink-at-obama/?comment=3400595#comment_3400595
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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“Please note the last two words, and the fact that it is exactly what they accuse Barack Obama of having " POOR JUDGMENT " mmmmmmm....
McCain should know something about that eh!”
Uhmmm dude, uhmmm, due to his lack of experience, any sort of track record, the only thing Obama IS RUNNING ON IS HIS
JUDGMENT!!!!!!!!
And willingness ability to work across party lines!
The Keating Five? McCain and John Glenn did nothing wrong.
Do you even know what the “POOR JUDGMENT” was a reference to?
If ya don’t you’re an idiot for bringing it up and if you do why TF would you bring it up?
The Keating Five affair led to campaign finance reform. McCain-Feingold bill
You know McCain worked across party lines (something Obama wants to do someday)
McCain attacked what he saw as the corrupting influence of large political contributions – from corporations, labor unions, other organizations, and wealthy individuals – and he made this his signature issue. Starting in 1994, he worked with Democratic Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold on campaign finance reform; their McCain-Feingold bill attempted to put limits on "soft money".
Since Obama CLAIMS he’s the one to get things done bipartisan across party lines can you NAME ANY Legislation that Obama was a sponsor of?
Not a “me too” hanger on like he did with the Climate Stewardship Act
The Climate Stewardship Act sponsored by McCain and Lieberman.
Do you know of something he sponsored across party lines like the Aviation and Transportation Security Act by McCain – Hollings.
Anything? Like the legislation that created the 9/11 Commission by Lieberman an McCain.
Anything? Even if it were un-popular like McCain-Kennedy immigration reform.
No?
That’s what I thought. So Why TF did you bring up The Keating Five?
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pc251 year, 3 months ago
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/08/22/obamas-real-housing-problem-grove-park/
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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"Obama opened the door for this in two different ways. First, as noted, he skewered McCain for not knowin how many houses he has. "
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LOL.. Yeah, you're rational. Just like Obama "opened the door" by being greeted by hundreds of thousands of Germans last month (after McLib accused him of not having enough foreign policy experience). Clearly in our right wing world of delusions we've forgotten that it was also that it was the McCain camp which has been trying to paint Obama as a celebrity. Welcome to the Schizoid Neocon Zone. There's no escape. ;-(-
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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“LOL.. Yeah, you're rational. Just like Obama "opened the door" by being greeted by hundreds of thousands of Germans last month (after McLib accused him of not having enough foreign policy experience).”
Uhm dude, did ya happen to notice Obama‘s poll ratings have dropped 12 points since his “Excellent European Tour”?
Uhm dude, did ya happen to notice that there was a rock concert and Beer that day?
You must be young, the picture of 200K Germans in glorifying admiration of a politician looks kinda like it did in 1934.
ROFLMAO!!
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pc251 year, 3 months ago
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/baracks_favors_for_corru...htm">http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08212008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/baracks_favors_for_corru...htm
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BARACK'S FAVORS FOR CORRUPT CRONY
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pc251 year, 3 months ago
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http://www.gop.com/images/research/082108Research1.pdf
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Baracks other housing problem-
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pc251 year, 3 months ago
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/1119312,CST-NWS-rezko21.article
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and about that October surprise this is one of them
Rezko gets sentencing delayed till October
A federal judge has postponed the sentencing of convicted political fund-raiser Tony Rezko by nearly two months, pushing his sentencing hearing back to Oct. 28 -- one week before the presidential election.
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NoWayMan1 year, 3 months ago
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McCain said that someone who makes under $5 million a year is middle class. does that sound like McCain is in touch with reality?
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mesodude1 year, 3 months ago
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That's kinda weird that a con would say this given that when you want to bitch and cry about taxes, you seem to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that people in Obama's tax bracket are just sooooooooooo oppressed and overtaxed. LOL...Con lies and extreme hypocrisy are absolutely PHENOMENAL. ROTFLMAO
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joeeddie1 year, 3 months ago
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Since Obama has suddenly become concerned with housing, maybe he will take a trip back to Grove Parc in Chicago and fix all of the problems that he created there. The people that are housed there don't like what Obama did to them - not one little bit.
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corl641 year, 3 months ago
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Here's a link to a Grove Parc article. Obama was also the attorney that represented Tony Rezkos' interest in this project. Some kind of circlejerk like that.
/grim_proving_ground_for_...">http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_...
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Wolfie20071 year, 3 months ago
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At least, John and Cindy bought their houses without dealing with someone like Tony Rezko or becoming a special friend of Angelo of Countrywide Mortgage to get financing. I still would like to know more about the deals those democrats got by being a "Friend Of Angelo".
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NoWayMan1 year, 3 months ago
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yeah. the McCains just bought their houses with Cindy's money. Money that came from her dad. And his money came from organized crime.
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and here's the story on it, brought to you by none other than the cons favorite journalist, Jerome R. Corsi.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=57354
DOH!!!!
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GWHayduke1 year, 3 months ago
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This is GREAT!!!
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Watch the desperation through the promoton of non-issues.
Is this all McW has? Or is it just the fearful followers clamoring for a last gasp?
These threads are like the Keystone Cops in a Chinese Fire Drill.
Scrambling, grasping, groping, back slapping, lying, deceiving, misrepresenting, fearmongering,.......this is getting EXCITING!
Lions, Tigers and BEARS, oh my......
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GWHayduke1 year, 3 months ago
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Lets see here.......on 08/20 McW says he doesnt know how many houses he has.....that he has to consult with his little people to find out.
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For a full three years now, the Rezko deal has been paraded and bandied about as if some kind of criminal activity took place.
A relevant NEW observation concerning McW's disassociation with economic realities comes into view and you want to pull the ol':
But, but, but Rezko, uhhhh, hes a bad guy that 3 years ago sold Obama some land.
Are you suggesting that 3 years isnt enough time to beat the Rezko horse?
Are you suggesting that McW's disssociation with the current American economic peril somehow can be marginalized by the Rezko deal from 2006?
Good luck with that.......I realize that ammunition is running LOW, but at least choose topics that are relevant and that people really CARE about, you know, like ending the war, the economy, fuel, etc etc.
Ohhhhh, thats right, more empty guns.
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Bkumm1 year, 3 months ago
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This is great stuff! The distortion and spin on the Right is starting to get hilarious.
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So, Senator McCain, who is supposed to be the man with the plan on foreign policy because he's "been there, done that" can't remember how many houses he owns (with his wife's money) and that is somehow opening the door for the most ridiculous and unfounded accusations about Senator Obama's relationship with Rezko?
Come on, people, you've got to do better than that. As my Chief in the Navy used to say, "You can polish that Pinto all you want PO2, but it ain't never gonna be a Caddy."
Of course, I'm cleaning that up a bit. It's a family site after all.-
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Bkumm1 year, 3 months ago
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It's smear. Senator Obama wrote letters on behalf of a development that would benefit people in Chicago for whom he had been working for a long time. Rezko never solicited a letter from Senator Obama and Senator Obama didn't ask Rezko before he sent the letters.
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If you're going to hang Senator Obama for that association then you'd better hang Senator McCain as well. Shall we drag the Keating Five out in the open again? As with Senator McCain in that issue, Senator Obama could be accused of having poor judgement in his associations (much looser with Rezko than McCain with Keating, by the way), but certainly not with impropriety. -
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NoWayMan1 year, 3 months ago
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nice blog piece from hotair.com, whatever that is.
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the rezko thing couldn't find traction when hillary tried it and it won't now, simply because all that happened was that Obama got a pretty good deal on a house. he didn't buy it from rezko. rezko didn't loan or give him the money, etc. and the rezkos and obamas had to close on thieir properties on the same day only under the seller's stipulation. in the rezko trial, obama has been accused of nothing, has not been investigated for anything, and hasn't even been questioned.
and the cons continue to forget or leave out the fact that rezko helped raise millions of dollars for bush.
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questionseverything1 year, 3 months ago
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great post no way
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this election should be about 1 thing...whose economic policies r best for MOST Americans
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 3 months ago
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It's funny Cons can only make INNUENDO when it comes to Obama.
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Maybe they should have been more worried about the relationships the Chimp-and-Chief cultivated, like with Kenny Boy Lay. We might have headed off the suicide of the dollar. -
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markmawn21 year, 3 months ago
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The media is once again stirring things up so they can continue to sell premium ad space on their programs. Watch, if someone climbs too high in the polls, the media "props up and knock down" the other to continue the horse race. With no horse race, there would be no viewers. With no viewers, there would be no money made. It's just business.
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sieben131 year, 3 months ago
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Read my LIPS ,it doesn't matter what John McCain does or doesn't do. This is pure and simple about RACE . America would rather continue in economic disaster,housing foreclosure,war in IRAQ & Afghanistan ,Iran developement of Nukes with McCain than have a Black man lead them out of this caos "ONLY IN AMERICA"
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markmawn21 year, 3 months ago
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Is it just me, or does this picture make McCain look like a Sleestack?
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http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff244/SirRobin427/sleestack.gif
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bill29361 year, 3 months ago
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If BHO wants to talk about houses, why not talk about the house his brother lives in. The one made of Cardboard. As for McCain's houses, It one of the houses for his elderly Aunt? and one for his daughter, and one for one of his sons? So who is the one that really cares about family? Of course how Obama's brother lives should be something we will see from an Obama administration.
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kevinbgood6211 year, 3 months ago
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Suprising is that a great deal of Obamo supporters find ways to either insult or change the subject . He is still for full term abortions and that is very scary for someone who is " for the people ." He says he is a christian but I find no solace in him supporting a procedure that has less restrictions than buying cigarettes .
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kevinbgood6211 year, 3 months ago
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And him picking Biden is no way to end the war . Maybe Obama is like kennedy and will select a vice that is pro -war or pro - war willing . Biden is one of the best in plolitics and he is both respected for his work for the armed services and his hard work ethic ... this will almost secure the Repubs timetable of June for city and 2011 for borders . Biden , unlike Obama , understands the role we now play and how much work is involved . Almost a no-brainer as his creds' overseas and ability to work along lines is great . Honestly , I think any other selection will cost Obama any chance at the White house .
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kevinbgood6211 year, 3 months ago
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I honestly think this was close from the start and will be close until the end . I would have Given Hillary a better chance of winning than Obamo but the people have spoken ( except for me as I have a half vote/no vote/ now full vote! ! ) and he's the Dems contender . Of course I don't expect you guys to vote for Barry until you get your free download from sheryl Crow ! Run out and blog that right now ! FREE DOWNLOAD FROM SHERYL CROW !! dats' de sheeett !
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I'm still waiting for a real good offer to sell my vote ....
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elmiko1 year, 3 months ago
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What kind of an election is this, first they dig up all the dirt, then trash each others' wives, then we're supposed to vote for one of them? Maybe they should give us a consolation prize... I hear McCain has some houses he doesn't know about...
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