Secret lottery formula? WI couple won't tell as they claim 3rd and 4th jackpots »
Posted By ameliog 10 months, 2 weeks ago in Business & Finance
A Wisconsin woman and her accountant husband who claims he's developed a formula for lottery picks have each claimed $350,000 jackpots--twice. Verlyn and Judith Adamson claimed two $350,000 jackpots on Monday because each held a winning ticket in the state SuperCash drawing last Saturday. They didn't mention at the time that they also held two more of the winning tickets.
Verlyn Adamson said earlier in the week that he's a big fan of math puzzles. He claims he developed a formula for lottery picks, but his winnings have been small until now. The couple's lawyer, Scott Thompson, said the Adamsons are "exploring patent protection" for the equation. (By the way, the Wisconsin state lottery seems rife with statistical oddities, as you can see in the WISN video below.)
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ayamore10 months, 2 weeks ago
I am a sceptic by nature. Lol.
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What are the odds of so many people winning in this particular Ma and Pa store? Even if two million tickets are sold yearly what are the odds of one of their tickets winning the jack-pot?
I suspect a little faul play! The store collects a huge bonus everytime someone wins from this store.
The owner of this Ma and Pa store should maybe be investigated along with the lottery commission! LOL.
The chance of this store selling a winning jackpot lottery ticket once is fine and well, but over and over again?
They even have T Shirts printed because they have so many jack-pot wins?
Mathematically the odds are against this happening.
They now have a winner that has a proven method that can beat the lottery?
I smell scam all over this plus free advertising so that this couple can sell their formula for millions more! lol. All they need do is apply for a patent? Lol.
Talk about greed! lol.
Our prisons are full of crooked CEO's and bankers...why not Lottery officials?
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rcrcsims10 months, 2 weeks ago
Sure the chances of a partical person winding 4 times is unlikely, but the chances of SOMEONE winding 4 times is most lilkely no worse than 50%.
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kysteve6610 months, 2 weeks ago
oo so your saying - this store can wait to see what the numbers are then add the numbers -WRONG they can NOT it doesnt work that way - it has dates and all u no dates and all - its called luck no way this guy has a formula to win the lottery if he did he would be at MILLIONS not 100s yea duhh - yea u say look into the store..WHY can u tell me WHY
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pauljourn4310 months, 2 weeks ago
maybe he can give me the numbera to our florida fantasy 5 drawing i sure could use the luck i would be happy with 250.000
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herodotous10 months, 2 weeks ago
A secret formula to pick lottery numbers and win...yeah, right...i'll put that one next to the formula of how to make millions without working. There is no luck involved in this. These are just random events, though statistically very low in probability, just random events...or maybe not and they can actually talk to the spirits and see the future...yeah, that's it, THAT'S THE TICKET!
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sewdragondesigns10 months, 2 weeks ago
I JUST WANT THE 3.09 A GALLON GAS!!!!!!!!!
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cuester10 months, 2 weeks ago
It's disgusting that any state uses lotteries to finance projects that should be paid by all residents through graduated income taxes. We should all be ashamed that our governments exploit poor and ignorant people like this. And shame on Newsday for shilling for the lottery scam.
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Lotteries are a secret tax on the poor. The people who can least afford it are being suckered into paying for state projects such as education, highways, and the like, while more wealthy, better educated people get off scott free, paying nothing. That's the real fraud, not some phoney "system" someone claims they have for winning.
Be smart and boycott state lotteries. Lotteries are destructive. They prey on people who don't understand the odds against winning. They take money that people need for necessities. They are NOT harmless. They are truly for LOSERS and voters should end them. States should not be in this sleazy, exploitative business.-
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jecachje10 months, 2 weeks ago
To the person who says that a state lottery is "taking advantage of the poor" let me say this, these "poor" people are adults with the right to do what they want to do. That is until people like you, who for some reason feel that they know better what these "poor" people need to do with their money. What, are they not as educated as you? Should they just sit down and let people like you tell them what is best for them. I get so sick of people like you. You are all alike, here poor people let me tell you what is best for you, let me take care of you because we all know that you can't take care of yourself. Better yet just sit there and let us take care of you using the tax money of others. People like you are the ones who use these "poor" people for your own political purposes.
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intheweeds10 months, 2 weeks ago
Up with the Nanny State! So you think the State must protect poor "LOSERS" from throwing away their meager incomes? If people are so simple-minded that they need protection from their own actions, they certainly shouldn’t be voting, holding public office, serving on juries, teaching, or anything else that might affect someone else. The lottery isn’t some confidence scheme – everyone knows the odds of losing are great. By suggesting a boycott, you recognize that lotteries are totally voluntary, hence they are not a “tax” and do not “take” money from anyone.
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femalto10 months, 2 weeks ago
Oh, Cuester, you ruined my day. I think I'll go out and buy a lottery ticket and try my own formula for winning.
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cakes3810 months, 2 weeks ago
Cuester - don't be so ignorant.
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If anything, it's the state(s) tax system that preys on the people.
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scotty572010 months, 2 weeks ago
If Wisconsin's state lottery is truly based on a randon generator it should be impossible for any math wizard to beat. I would take a look to see if any of their winnings are going to a Wisconsin lottery official.
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froginbus10 months, 2 weeks ago
I am here to tell you that the Lotteries say the money is going to schools , and it is. But, there is one big misconception, it is a shell game. The schools were receiving money from 2 different sources, for ex. 1 was $5 a student and the other was $7 a student. When the lottery started paying into schools they paid $5 a student. When the $5 came in they took the $5 out of the $7 and funneled it into another project. So schools are ending up with the same money they began with, but the politicians can legally say the money is going to the schools so they can sleep at night, and everyone feels better about playing it. As for me I work for a school and of course I take a chance every now and then, but generally I prefer to take my money directly to the students. It can be amazing to see a child get a new pencil at the beginning of the year, and know they that really needed it. Times are tough around here and it takes all that some families have to provide shoes or even clothes for their kids to go to school. And no I don't live in a ghetto, I'm not complaining, I'm just explaining how come it seems that schools should have more money, seeing as they get lottery money, and they don't have it.
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coxnvox10 months, 2 weeks ago
Seems pretty simple to me as far as the store with all the winning numbers. They randomly had a couple of high-profile winners, which caused a lot of people to start buying tix from them. The number of peeps buying from them compared to other stores was mathematically significant enough that they hit a couple more winners, and it just snowballed from there. 2 million tix is about 5500 a day for every day of the year. That seems pretty gaudy for a mom and pop store.
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whohidthekeys10 months, 2 weeks ago
Here's what they LIKELY did: he came up with some numbers he liked by using a formula, AND then he bought a second ticket with those same exact numbers on them, and possibly a third or fourth ticket so that way if his numbers did come up as winners, he would also hold the second, third and fourth winning tickets as well. That's just plain smart, especially if you believe there are more multiple winning tickets than there are single tickets. It wouldn't matter when you bought them or where, but if your numbers come up then you simply hold more than one winning ticket. He also likely looked at the numbers that win the most since most states post the most winning numbers on their website. Now if all of you who play the lottery had numbers you really liked, buy a second ticket with those numbers on it and good luck. My guess is he will not be successful at getting a patent for something where luck matters most.
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chrisawallace10 months, 2 weeks ago
The odds are that they played a slew of numbers using a technique that I believe is called "wheeling" them. Your system tells you what numbers have the highest statistical probability of hitting (which should be totally random) and then you play multiple combinations of the numbers. Therefore, you end up with multiple tickets that have many numbers in common. It seems like what happened is that they probably played some number of tickets (a couple thousand?) all on the same draw and several of the numbers in their wheel hit netting them $1.4M pre-tax in this case. ($350K times 4 tickets.) Had their "system" for picking the numbers with the highest probability been wrong, they would be out a decent sum of money. In any case, good for them. Hopefully they will do something positive with the money instead of just blowing it like so many others that come into a windfall of cash.
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whohidthekeys10 months, 2 weeks ago
Even if they blow it, they are technically putting it back in to the economy where there are people with jobs, unless of course, they need it to pay off their bookie?
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whohidthekeys10 months, 2 weeks ago
Thank you and from what I can tell from your comments, you are undoubtedly a genius and/or just plain darn smart.
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bobl75510 months, 2 weeks ago
Hay if you two arn't too busy spending money drop me a line ! O and let me have the formula to the CASH thanks BUDDIE
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heartdrlv10 months, 2 weeks ago
This is why some people buy multiple tickets of the same number. This is not relavent to the article posted. I witnessed someone who won a modest amount of money once purchasing multiple tickets with the same number. I used to work in a convienience store years ago.
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They purchased 5 dollars worth of 1 dollar tickets for the numbers to win in the order they requested. They purchased 5 dollars worth of 50 cent tickets for the numbers to win in any order. The winning numbers were in the order they requested. So therefore they had 15 winning tickets. The pay outs on these tickets was more for the in order ones than the any order ones. Because of the way purchased the paying tickets were not withing the range of having to be reported, hence no taxes. -
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jrasic10 months, 2 weeks ago
I meant dumb to have all this press coverage. Obviously if every winning ticket earned the top prize, there is some logic in buying more than 1 identical ticket. Given that the tickets were all for the same drawing and bought at 4 different stores (according to press reports), there is really no conclusion to be drawn about any formula or place of purchase based on this one outcome.
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dag96210 months, 2 weeks ago
The way I read this article, this couple has 4 winning tickets for the SAME lottery. Now why would they have 4 tickets with the same winnings numbers on them? Come on people, this story is 100% tabloid sensationalism.
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brian1russ10 months, 2 weeks ago
Get a copyright, OK and charge for people to puchase the publication. I can't see a patent for a random number generator which would give these greedy people rights to anyone's winnings that came up with their own similar formula. There have been thousands who have tried formula's and probably some who are the same. They need to keep their winnings and keep their secret a secret and if they keep winning, more power to them.
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The only possible formula would be simulation of the one that generates the number in the first place, and they shouldn't have that information -
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dag96210 months, 2 weeks ago
"Wheeling" would not explain winning the Jackpot on 4 seperate tickets. Unless, they were wheeling on a jackpot that has been rolling over and was extremely large, and then hit 5 of 6 numbers on 4 tickets - that may be possible - but that is an awefully big payout for hitting 5 of 6. Unless it was 4 of 5 and the powerball X 4. Who knows, the way it is written makes it all sound like BULL.
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WesleyAllen10 months, 2 weeks ago
If they do have a way of picking the winning numbers good, ( share the wealth). but what i would like to know is if the lotto money goes to all these things such as road maintance & so on, why are our taxes going up every year for these things? The average family cant live on one income nowdays & we have so many hands in our pockets by the time we do get our pay checks over $300. is gone in taxes right off the top. I have played the lotto & never even won my money back, so i dont play( times are hard).
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JohnFC10 months, 2 weeks ago
Lottery winnings are supposed to go to the school systems. Unfortunately, our politicians have figured out that they can reduce the tax(ed) budgets and compensate with the lottery income. Instead of being a bonus, the lottery has become a "voluntary" tax system to supplement the general fund of the states that participate.
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memestryker10 months, 2 weeks ago
Or it's time for the lottery to find a more complex random number generating system that isn't as easy to crack. I have no problem with lotteries. It's fun to occasionally buy a $1 ticket when the winnings are high, and talk about it with friends and family. It's entertainment that costs much less than a movie and popcorn.
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