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    Beau78901 year, 4 months ago

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    1 million barrels per day?

    U.S. consumption of oil is predicted by the DoE's Energy Information Agency to be 20.08 million bpd in 2009. And that's a drop in consumption from today.

    And world consumption is currently 86 million bpd. That one million bpd that you say we could get from ANWR would have NO effect on the price on the world market, which of course is where ANWR oil would be sold. The price would stay the same, and we'd get barely any more oil than we have now.

    "Drill here! Drill now!" Yeah, that's gonna help.

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      chevydog1 year, 4 months ago

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      I haven't done the calcs, but methinks that one could do a similar attempt for solar, wind, or other "alternates" and come up with pretty much the same magnitude numbers. Individually, none of these things is or has the likelhood to become significant. So we shouldn't try them? No, we should--where they work best.

      Don't think that there is ONE solution that will get us out of this mess--that includes drilling, alternates, anything. Any time that that may have been true is long gone. There are a plethora of thigs that will have to be done; and IMHO someone that doesn't recognize that is working under a delusion. We've gone too long doing nothing but talk.

      Alternates like wind and solar have always been cool among a certain group of people. But engineers have tended to distrust them because they're too diffuse and not reliable enough. So now we've got demo projects that seem to be viable; great, though in the case of solar, I'd feel much more comfortable if some were in places like Michagan or Illinois. But the largest solar generator I'm aware of is a 75 MW unit now approved for Florida. This is peanuts next to the garden-variety "conventional" 1000-1500 MW power plants that are now standard. So boost solar and wind if you like; they both have their own (limited) place. But many of us live in places where conventional supplies will be necessary for a looong time; no matter what decisions we may make now.

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        simonsez1 year, 4 months ago

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        We should and we are using alternatives, but we will need fossil fuel at least for 50 years.

        It's good to read a responsible comment from someone and yours is ...

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          miklkit1 year, 4 months ago

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          You want more oil? Stop exporting it. Alaskan oil never has and never will be used in the lower 48. The same goes for any ANWR oil. What about OCS oil? What makes you think it will be used here?

          The good thing about all of the alternatives is that they are DOMESTIC energy. That means not imported. The fact that they have been suppressed doesn't mean they don't work. They are our future while oil is our past. Where do you live?

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