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Posted By not2needy 1 year, 2 months ago in News

The impression that McCain and the media has attempted to portray of McCain's 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam is about as far from the tru...

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    not2needy1 year, 2 months ago

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    The man that conservatives have praised as the wonderful POW, with all his vast experience is indeed a traitor. He sided with the enemy.

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    not2needy1 year, 2 months ago

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    McCain also graduated 894 out of a class of 899, even worse than Dumbya

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    jordan111 year, 2 months ago

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    I lean toward believing all of this, in view of the fact that McCain was instrumental in sealing POW files. There is no need to seal something, unless there is something to hide.

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    smithichie1 year, 2 months ago

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    I heard these rumors back in 2000, ironically by some of the same folks McCain now has working for his campaign. While Obama probably shouldn't touch this issue, questioning McCain's service shouldn't be off limits anymore than John Kerry's was.

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    CRYMTYPHON1 year, 2 months ago

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    No.
    Sorry.
    Won't go there.

    This stuff about Mccain is as crapulous, as the swiftboat lies about Kerry.
    And Smithichie is right; much of this was actualy done by Rove workers for Bush in 2000.

    If anyone wants to spread this crap, ok; just don't pretend you are any better than Rove and company.

    John W. McCain is a spoiled man with a bad temper and the conservative bent of assuming that whatever he does is not to be questioned.
    He should not become president.

    But he is no coward; he is no traitor, and does not deserve to be called such.

    After his defeat in 2000, he sold out to the people he still despises.
    That makes him weak.
    Let's avoid that mistake.
    Don't sell out.
    Don't swiftboat.

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    jovial1 year, 2 months ago

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    I visited this site on numerous occasions. There's a big coverup. I tried to post a link to the veterans against John McCain and it wouldn't work. Maybe it was a coincidence. Here's the question I have for Senator McCain.. Why Senator, did you actively fight against the POW/MIA that wanted the military records released on POW's and MIA's after the war? Why did you actively keep those records sealed forever? Second question: Why Senator, did you push so hard to normalize relations with Vietnam after the war? Third question: Why Senator, does your wife Cindy McCain have such an active interest in Vietnam? She has made frequent visits there on so called humanitarian missions. Some as recent as a few weeks ago. Was it to pay hush money to the Vietnamese guards so that they would never speak of what they know? In fact, the guard that kept you in captivity speaks very highly of you. Why, Senator? Like before it's happening all over again. The media and the citizens are too afraid to ask these tough questions, because they don't want to seem unpatriotic.

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    Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago

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    CRYMTYPHON is right about this story originally being circulated by Rove in 2000 and should be given the same amount of credence as anything else from that piece of ****. I read an article a while back in which someone who was in the Hanoi Hilton at the same time as McCain said that many of the other prisoners did not trust him (something to do with special treatment because of his father the admiral). I'm pretty certain judging from some comments made by McCain himself (before being waterboarded by Bush and Cheney for his opposition to torture, which of course he reversed inexplicably) that he sang like a bird and told his captors whatever they wanted to know. I believe this is human nature more than anything else, He was subjected to torture and a tortured person will eventually say whatever the torturer wants them to say. He himself said this about torture and its uselessness before being corrected by Bushco. This is why the records are sealed, human as it is, a "hero" doesn't crack under pressure. (Maybe in comic books they don't, but in reality anyone would eventually give in under torture). I doubt it's anything more than that.
    I am very surprised and disappointed in McCain, I thought he was a better man than to pander to and allow the same people who swiftboated him in 2000. I thought he had some integrity. He has revealed himself to be quite a puppet and hardly a maverick. If Goldwater were still alive he'd kick his *** for selling out.

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    Eagle_Eye1 year, 2 months ago

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    Good post n2n, it is some thing the general public needs to be aware of but I am glad Obama isn't going the low road.

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      miklkit1 year, 2 months ago

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      Some people say we shouldn't go there because we are better than the republicons. Ok fine. At the very least we should question why McSame was way over ranked for his position in his squadron, and why he was never promoted as a POW.

      Personally, his total contempt for veterans that he has displayed in his voting record is enough for me to believe this story.

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      Tango571 year, 2 months ago

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      I didn't know this existed until now. To think, Obama could of used this material and didn't shows he is the better man to lead this nation.

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        ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 2 months ago

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        He's a SELL OUT now. That's all that matters.

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          Will13131 year, 2 months ago

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          great post N2N and thanks for the invite.....

          I voted for him in the Florida primarys in 2000... but his sell out to the very people that smeared him leads me to believe the the man of courage is somehow still locked in solitary in Vietnam....

          the type of smear tactics that were pulled on him with barely a whimper... also leads me to believe he was made "an offer he couldn't refuse"..

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            cloud151 year, 2 months ago

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            I thought the republicans were the party of fear and smear.....but now we have the n2n calling McCain a traitor......

            Could the hypocrisy be any clearer?

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            Ratskii1 year, 2 months ago

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            I admit to being a bit suspicious of this video also, given its source. However, it disgusts me the way McCain and those supporting have been brandishing his war record like a flag, after what they did to Kerry.

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              AntiNeoCon1 year, 2 months ago

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              I am not supporting McCain, but honestly....I don't think the guy is a traitor. Sometimes you have to do what you do to survive, and I think that would apply to some POW's. I am not voting for him because I think he is too old, and I do not agree with his views or opinions, and partially because I do not want another republican screwing up my country. Simple as that.

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              Wolfie20071 year, 2 months ago

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              Now here's one that should be in file 13 not on the front page. N2N you've risen to a new low. This is such a load of bullsheet that no one but left wingnuts will buy into it.

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              Spadecaller1 year, 2 months ago

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              McCain is a phony. What Vietnam POW or Vet with character would use their capture or war story in Nam as McCain has to manipulate sentiment for votes. McCain is quite obvious. Most Vietnam Vets that I know can't stomach hearing him talk about his experience as a POW.

              If we still had a free press in this country, this information would have been plastered on the front pages of all major newspapers and would have been under discussion on the major network news programs.

              But the country is now run by special interests, the military industrial corporations and the oil companies, and McCain is their puppet, just like Georgie, another coward who pretends to be something he is not.

              And it's characters like Bush, McCain, cheney, and Joe McCarthy types who go around calling real patriots un-American.

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              hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago

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              Why the Senator is Not a War Hero

              .... The Cinderella quality of such imaginings provides a telling context – revealing the man and his presumptions hiding behind the mask of war hero.

              In this election season, understanding the full context of presumptions is very important. My husband, also a former Vietnam Prisoner of War (1970-1973), spent time in both the "Hanoi Hilton" and a secondary camp -"Plantation Gardens" - as did John McCain who never mentions time spent in the latter. I am also the daughter of Colonel John F. O'Grady who was known to be a POW captured on the border of Laos and Vietnam in 1967 and who never returned. Like John McCain, John O'Grady was a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy (1952). John O’Grady earned 7 military commendations for heroic service including the Silver Star and two Distinguished Flying Crosses.

              There were many heroes in Vietnam – and there are many freshly bloodied heroes returning from new wars started by old men - and John McCain's claim is tarnished by long forgotten historical facts that few are brave enough to proffer today for fear of vicious attack on their “patriotism”. My father’s legacy protects me from such attack and so demands that I ask the unspoken questions and remind voters of the forgotten history. When the Vietnam POWS came home in 1973, President Nixon traded a small group of them celebrity status - anointing them as "heroes" - for political support of his failed war policies. John McCain was one of the anointed heroes while others were virtually discarded in exchange for their continued support of the false Nixon plan of “peace with honor” in Vietnam.

              In turn, the select POWS were introduced to very wealthy and influential members of the Republican Party, their records were elevated over other POW heroes with more compelling stories, and many difficult questions were not asked of them.

              Today, some of those same POWS are employees of the neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute and many others have profited greatly from their staunch affiliations within the Republican Party. ....

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              Dave591 year, 2 months ago

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              Looks like John Sidney might have scewed the pooch. Though with sealed records it will be very hard to prove.
              One way another I think the man is an ass hat of the worst sort. He has a really nasty temper and treats women like trash. To my mind he learned this early in life and has carried it through to this day. John McCain is a tired worn out old anachronism, out of time and place.
              This also his last chance to shine and be the "Big Man" . The thing he could not do earlier in life. Sometime the skeletons in the closet come back to haunt. Looks like John Boy has got a few of those skeletons waking up.
              His war record may be sealed but look at how he does things now. I find that past performance is an indicator of future performance.
              I wouldn't vote for McSame fore dog catcher.....he probably would abuse the animals.

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              Dave591 year, 2 months ago

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              Looks like John Sidney might have scewed the pooch. Though with sealed records it will be very hard to prove.
              One way another I think the man is an ass hat of the worst sort. He has a really nasty temper and treats women like trash. To my mind he learned this early in life and has carried it through to this day. John McCain is a tired worn out old anachronism, out of time and place.
              This also his last chance to shine and be the "Big Man" . The thing he could not do earlier in life. Sometime the skeletons in the closet come back to haunt. Looks like John Boy has got a few of those skeletons waking up.
              His war record may be sealed but look at how he does things now. I find that past performance is an indicator of future performance.
              I wouldn't vote for McSame fore dog catcher.....he probably would abuse the animals.

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