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Posted By Spadecaller 1 year, 3 months ago in NewsJohn McCain has magic foreign policy knowledge. Because he was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, he is infallible, untouchable, bulletproof, and a genius in all matters of foreign policy. And he will not let you forget that.
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Spadecaller1 year, 3 months ago
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According to McCain, the American people do not have the right to challenge him on any topic, because he was a POW. McCain himself is now playing the POW card, something the media routinely claimed he despised in others.
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McCain is over-using his former POW status to deflect any and all discussion of any topic, even those topics totally unrelated to his POW experience.
How is McCain's former POW status related to the fact that he can't remember how many homes he owns? How is his wife's father being a Vet somehow exonerate McCain from the hypocrisy of accusing Obama of being an elitist when McCain's is the far richer of the two?
What is not a mystery is the fact that McCain will continue to use his former POW status to deflect questions about any topic. Will Americans accept this tactic, or reject it?-
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pongping1 year, 3 months ago
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It's too easy to blame it on the media. Even if they do have their own agenda, and they do, the rest of us need to do a whole lot more thinking about the people we vote for. For me that means, neither McCain or Obama is the right stuff.
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alakazam1 year, 3 months ago
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That's the part that irritates me most. We seem to be playing a set piece game and the pieces are being set for us.
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During the nomination process I noticed we were continually reminded that the Delegates and Super-Delegates were the ones going to decide the nomination.
The primaries are apparently nothing but a dog and pony show to allow the masses to feel like they have some influence in the election process
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spkguy1 year, 3 months ago
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Seen this?
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McCain Bomb Iran War Joke Remix
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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“John McCain has magic foreign policy knowledge. Because he was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, he is infallible, untouchable, bulletproof, and a genius in ...”
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Ya that’s why the Dems wanted McCain to be VP in 04!
Why do you think the Dems have been PRAISING McCain since he’s been in the Senate!
That’s why the Dems were begging McCain to be ion THEIR ticket in 04!
McCain’s infallibility, untouchable, bulletproof, and a genius is a product of the DEMOCRAT Machine!
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aceofspades11 year, 3 months ago
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I will be out of the country on election day I have not applied for an absentee ballot because this will be the first election of any kind that I will not vote in since 1961.
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I do not want it on my conscious that I had anything to do with putting either of the "presumptive" candidates in office
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MajJohn1 year, 3 months ago
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Spade-How is this video any better than the crap put out about Obama's mother? A bunch of you people, libs or whatever, were eager to jump on Ani, and correctly so, but then turn around and do the same thing. I guess it's true, nothing changes in politics, same dirty confrontational bunch of lies on both sides. I can not wait until this election is over, no matter who wins.
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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From the Dream team you created in 04
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“KERRY & McCAIN VS. BUSH & CHENEY: CHOICE IN NOVEMBER
(Registered voters)
Independent voters, too, move to the Kerry/McCain ticket: 51% of them support Kerry over Bush, while 57% would back a Kerry/McCain ticket.
Views of McCain
Among those voters who have an opinion or know of John McCain, opinions of the Senator are overwhelmingly favorable. 46% say they have a favorable view of McCain, while just 9% are unfavorable. Independents hold the most favorable views. Republican voters, meanwhile, are more likely than Democrats to view the Senator in a negative light: 16% of them do, compared to just 4% of Democrats and 8% of Independents.”-
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injest1 year, 3 months ago
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BTW the polls show you haven’t made a dent in the legend you created.
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The danger of attacking the McCain legend you created, is that you may destroy it, but you will destroy your self’s in the process.
Updated: 8:48 p.m. ET May 16, 2004
http://web.archive.org/web/20040803085719/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/
WASHINGTON - Sen. Joseph Biden, a senior Democrat, on Sunday urged Republican Sen. John McCain to run for vice president with the Democratic hopeful, Sen. John Kerry, in order to heal the “vicious rift” dividing America.
McCain, of Arizona, “categorically” ruled out standing with Kerry, but Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he had no second choice.
“I’m sticking with McCain,” Biden said.
(Did ya get that? Biden, 72 million registered Dems and Biden ONLY sees McCain as the VP that can heal the Country. Isn’t that what Obama claims he can do?)
“I think John McCain would be a great candidate for vice president,” Biden, from Delaware, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where the two senators appeared together to take questions on Iraq and other subjects.-
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Dottie6541 year, 3 months ago
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I don't know when that was said, but times change. Biden and McSame are old, close friends, but this is a different time and place and we are at war, and Biden absolutely disagrees with the Bush/McSame policies on Iraq. So, he might say something quite different if the situation arose today.
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Dottie6541 year, 3 months ago
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That's very interesting b/c my friends who live in Phoenix say McSame "is a wolf in sheep's clothing," and apparently their friends, customers, co-workers, etc., feel the same. Perhaps the voters in Arizona weren't asked what THEY think! His excuse for everything from his favorite song to not knowing how many homes he has is always the fact that he was a POW. Well, so were several hundred others. The only reason McCain got singled out was b/c daddy was an Admiral. Otherwise, he would be just another released POW.
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http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_1,00.html
The above is a very intersting article written by a former POW who was in captivity at the same time as McSame.....only longer. In it he explains why he WON'T vote for McSame.
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jordan111 year, 3 months ago
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It's bizarre to think that because someone was a POW they know anything about foreign policy, or would have the ability to conduct it in a rational manner. People who use that as a determination of fitness for the presidency are thinking like irrational children. And I find it pitiful that McCain uses his POW status to somehow make himself 'special' and above all others. It's creepy! I'm truly sorry for anyone who went through being a POW, but I'm not going to idolize them & give them some mythical status!
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ameliog1 year, 3 months ago
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The POW card: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/21/16410/0565/504/572077
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crespi1 year, 3 months ago
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And stop calling Old Man McCain "Old Man McCain..."
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A guy can forget how many houses he has or if he is for or against torture.
Remember the last old guy we had in the office of the President was the same with Alzheimer's as he was without it... -
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Lurch1 year, 3 months ago
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I was a POW so I have every right to attack minorities, minimum wage, troop funding, veteran care, and the middle class.
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How dare anybody question my record or how I will act as President, I was a POW.
John McCain
P.S. Please do not mention how my staff and fellow Republicans attacked a decorated war hero in 2004 or how they attacked me for being a POW in 2000. -
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not2needy1 year, 3 months ago
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If being a POW is the qualifying factor in this presidential election, there are probably thousands of men out here that qualify, many of them are homeless and need a nice place to live, why not give one of them a free four year lease to the WH?
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As far as education, McCain didn't get a lot out of his, graduating 894 out of 899 is shameful but someone had to be last in the class. Apparently there are many Americans who prefer to be smarter than the president, they certainly have a desire for the dumbest ones they can find. -
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miklkit1 year, 3 months ago
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Lessee here. He's the son of an Admiral who was a son of an Admiral. He graduated 894 out of 899. He crashed 5 jets in training. He was over ranked for his position in the squadron. I don't have a problem with him getting shot down. Hanoi was the toughest nut to crack. He was NOT promoted like other POW's His records are sealed. He was against torture before he was for it. He was for campaign finance reform before he started breaking his own law. He has shown repeatedly that he has a bad memory.
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A pattern is here to be seen. This is a bottom feeder who has no moral fortitude. He is the same now as he was then.-
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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Funny how some things never change, isn't it?
He wasn't competent then and he isn't competent now.
I'd be willing to bet bet his daddy got him through the classes, just like daddy Bush got GW posted to the stateside duty he was gifted with.
First we get Bush whacked, then McCained? WTF is wrong with Americans today?
Have we forgotten all the POW's who suffered greatly and have never been recognized. McCain was a POW yes. I knew a few who came home who got a little help for the publicity then were shamefully ignored.
McCain scares the hell out of me!!!!! He is Dinky Dao # 10. -
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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Spadecaller:
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LMAO, hahahahhaahaaaaaa.
OK I'm reporting myself, I don't believe in the war, Bush or his freaking insane plans.
McCain or Bush or both combined don't make a quarter of a true American president. But see we haven't had a real president since Kennedy.
He didn't take any crap, and he knew how to control things in a propper manner.
I'm sorry McCain was taken as a prisoner of war. That doesn't give him the right to make America a prisoner of four more years of insanity.
Besides whoever he has running as his VP will get the job. You don't really think they will allow McCain to remain in office do ya?
This is just another trick to get a neocon in the whitehouse for four more years. I didn't capitalize whitehouse because Bush has made it a house of shame and horror.
No!!!!!!!! To McCain and the neocon con artists. The real threat to worldwide stability is the nut and his bag of friends in the whitehouse now, and the former POW who thinks being a POW makes him eligble to become the POTUS.
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BB641 year, 3 months ago
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Kennedy? Which version? The racist? The crime fighting anti-mobster whose family fortune was made as bootleggers? The womanizer? The war hero who failed to have a night watch posted and let his PT boat be rammed and sunk? BTW-he performed admirably, after he screwed up.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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Ya know, I didn't realize you were on PT 109 that night. Nor that you were one of the his crew whom he saved.
Could you have done what he did? I didn't think so!!
Racist? That would have been your buddy the cross dressing FBI director J Edgar Hoover. Womanizer, yeah ya got me. He was a womanizer.
Lets see, Newt Gringrich who led the battle to impeach Clinton was doing what to whom the whole time he was decrying Clintons morality. Then of course we have Larry Craig if you want to go around that bend. What about the sex parties in the whitehouse during the Reagan years. And don't ya think that papa Bush was tapping something other than Barbara while he was the pres?
Kennedy stood up to Russia when the world trembled. He didn't back down. Russia did.
They are laughing at Georgie boy. They didn't laugh at JFK. They respected and feared him.
Thanks for admitting that he performed admirably after he screwed up.
Although I don't think he screwed up, except for being a womanizer.
Bush never has or ever will. Neither will McCain.
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dannyea1 year, 3 months ago
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The Republicans forget that when MCCain ran against Bush in the 2000 election, Bush's people accused him of colaborating with the North Vietnamese enemy while he was a POW.
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jovial1 year, 3 months ago
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Isn't it so easy to fall back to this position for some. People say, "Since I don't know much about this war stuff, why not put a war veteran in there? They should be able to keep us safe" Utter contempt for knowledge is what it is.
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 3 months ago
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I think the opinion of the folks that served this country may be worth listening to.
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I think this page is pretty well represented by such folks.
I count Not2Needy.
I read somewhere that folks that where POW's where assigned a person to help them with indecisions.
I have no problem honoring McCain's service, and still find plenty of reasons not to vote for him.
It would be cool to kick his ass without getting muddy.
The current administration has not met the desires of folks that are truly conservative.
Spending is no longer a Democrat fault.
It is understandable for a soldier to prefer that their commander in Chief to have shared their experience's. Yet, based on the folks talking here, it is not the most important one. -
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fishifanb1 year, 3 months ago
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I have a problem with hero worship in general. While I appreciate the service of those who serve, I've never understood why some believe that that service automatically qualifies them for sainthood or makes them somehow superior people deserving of special priveliges.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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"I have a problem with hero worship in general. While I appreciate the service of those who serve, I've never understood why some believe that that service automatically qualifies them for sainthood or makes them somehow superior people deserving of special priveliges."
I don't think the service qualifies one for sainthood either.
Superior people deserving of special priveleges, well let me ask you what kind of country you think this would be without us?
You might not be alive if it weren't for those of us willing to fight for our country and it's freedoms.
You might be speaking German, Italian, Spanish, French, Japanese, Russian...
Get the picture.
Not hero worship, just respect and honor. Those are the special priveleges owed to every vet.
And the medical care to those who return damaged and in need of our assistance.
If you can't see that, you don't deserve to live in this country, nor enjoy the freedoms that were paid for with our fellow vets blood and sacrifice.
Go put your ass on the line and see if you don't want a little respect for it.
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allasam1 year, 3 months ago
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So ... Part of Georgia wants to separate. Georgia fights to stop it. Russia invades. McCain says solemnly while blaming Russia for invading, "We are all Georgians."
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So ... Part of Iraq separates. Saddam says we are taking it back. America says that's an Arab problem we don't care, Saddam invades. America invades. Are we all Kuwaitis too?
Hmm.
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BB641 year, 3 months ago
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I'm confused by most the anti-McCain comments. While I am not a fan of McCain he will have my vote. He's given most of his life to the service of this nation. John Kerry made a career talking about his "war" record but never opened it up to the public. I think it would have shown he wasn't actually injured by enemy fire but rather his own inept skills. When he was in front of congress testifying, people praised him, until lately when people compared his ships logs and dates given before congress. Now it's all forgotten. Kerry made a career out of lies told before congress.
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We have McCain. Clearly a war hero. Survived 6 years in a VC/NVN POW prison. I think his talking about war and that it is bad. There is not worse thing than war. McCain has said as much. But he's also said if a nation has to go to war, it must go in to win. That wasn't the case in Viet Nam and it wasn't the case in the Gulf War. If we are to risk the lives of our children, then we better be prepared to win. Some of the other comments here clearly fail to mention Sgt. Jimmy McCain, United States Marines. He's in Iraq right now. Jack McCain, US Navy going to Annapolis. You may know their father, John McCain. So before you claim he doesn't understand the risks associated with being a father and having sons serving, think again.-
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Shadowolf1 year, 3 months ago
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...a "Hero" who sealed his own records...who's voting record is totally anti veteran, who has shown NO HONOR at all that I can see in his 'public service'...nope I see a spoiled elitist who has caved to the very same bastards who trashed him in 2000...being a veteran does NOT in and of itself confer HONOR...it merely gives a standard to adhere to...it is the decisions one makes; their actions each and every day...THESE define a mans HONOR...and by these very simple rules John Sidney McCain III is not honorable...and not qualified as President...
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...For me it's quite simple...McCains entire campaign has been based on fear, smear and lies from the start...that is not even CLOSE to honorable behavior...his fanatics pretend to follow Christianity; while acting in a way seemingly designed to make Satan howl with laughter...a more hateful bunch of hypocrites I've never seen...one "veteran" claimed if Obama had been his C-in-C he would have deserted...is THAT a man of Honor???Not in my book!!!-
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 3 months ago
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Right on man!!!!
McCain hasn't been honorable in a very long time, to continue to throw the "I was a POW. I know all about war, is so stupid.
Tell me what he knows. He was shot down on his first mission. Hmmmmmmm? Bad luck, maybe. More than likely though he was in over his head. Nothing against the man, but being a POW does not make you war wise. It makes you familiar with being a prisoner and wise about that.
Fighting in the war and living through it day by day, minute by minute does make you war wise. You hate it and get tired of it. You learn the price of war. It is death, wounds, sorrow, bitterness, hatred, weariness of the body,mind and soul.
You sure as hell don't want to see others go there without an excellent reason for it. Not oil and money for the wealthy, while the nation bleeds and pays.
Honorable would be to tell the truth about Bush and the gang who can't tell the truth.
Honorable would be to tell the truth about the lies that cost so much blood.
Honorable would be to tell the truth about the swift boating of Kerry, by the scurilous cowards who denied a brave man his due by lying about him.
There is no honor in the neocons. There are only lies and bitterness about the sadness they have become.
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Dottie6541 year, 3 months ago
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JOHN MCCAIN IS NOT, NOT, NOT A WAR HERO. He is a former POW. That's it!!! I wish his sons safe passage and hope their achievements are their own and not b/c of their father. Do we know what Sgt. Jimmy McCain is doing in Iraq? If he fighting or sitting in some cushy position? Do we know ig Jack McCain is a better student than his father?
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JOHN MCCAIN IS NOT, NOT, NOT A HERO.
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sandy4john1 year, 2 months ago
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I will agree that the POW thing has gone too far. McLame looks like a little puppet pasting his pasty face on TV with his little puppets behind him. Could even one of them criticize him for anything? Rudy, Fred, any of them might have something critical to say, but no one can have an opinion of their own. McShame has a terrible educational record, a path similar to Bush's poor educational record, but the dumbest one gets to run for president. Now, he brings with him, the wolf killing, non-believer in global warming, Annie Oakley. Gosh. What have we come to? Obama 08. Give him four years, and see what he can do.
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