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Posted By not2needy 1 year, 4 months ago in News"We don't have a moment to lose or a vote to spare," said the former first lady , writing the final chapter in a quest for the White House that was every bit as pioneering as Obama's own.
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not2needy1 year, 4 months ago
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Hillary Rodham Clinton summoned the millions of voters who supported her in the primaries to send Barack Obama to the White House Tuesday night, and drew thunderous applause at the Democratic National Convention when she declared her one-time rival is "my candidate and he must be our president."
Good for Hillary, very classy!-
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questionseverything1 year, 4 months ago
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when she quoted harriet tubman ,i gotta admit,i cried
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if u hear the dogs..keep a goin
if u see torches in the woods..keep a goin
the dems policys,esp economic benefit 97 per cent of us..the reps policys benefit the top 3 per cent
if we dems dont get it right this election ,we may NEVR get another chance
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec08/ledbetter_08-26.html
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That was very cool. I got choked up earlier in the evening when Lilly Ledbetter spoke (for anyone who missed it, a transcript and mp3 are linked above). She just struck me as very unassuming, without ego and yet very poised. I can't imagine women in 2008 voting for someone who would legislate to deny them equal pay or who would deliberately keep their military benefits low just to insure that they don't leave the military.-
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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Some states do. The federal government doesn't consider it there business, a stance I can accept. Some states, in fact, have higher minimum wages then the federal government. I believe my state passed slightly higher minimum wages around the same time the federal government raised it, and its hardly a hotbed of progressive ideology, unless you listen to what Stephen Colbert says about it.
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Teech1 year, 4 months ago
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"if u hear the dogs..keep a goin
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if u see torches in the woods..keep a goin.."
Damn right! Those are Repuke dogs and Neocon torches - and they're out to export your jobs, make more money by generating prolonged wars, increase the national debt by giving away more money to the rich and big corporations, increase corporate socialism, obstruct single payer universal health care, prevent decent wages and pension plans, and to foment terror while accusing anybody who disagrees with them of treason. Then they lie like crazy and blame everybody else for their malfeasance in office.
Keep a goin' is right - right to the polls in November and throw every Repuke out of office. Every corrupt one of those slimy bums!-
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bigurn1 year, 4 months ago
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago
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She didn't go in there to state why Obama was 'fit to be President'. Anyone who is objective enough to be persuaded, already knows why he is more than fit.
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She was talking to those who have already acknowledged Obama's qualitites by selecting him in a long marathon process.
She was talking to the democrats.
Though, no doubt, she does have a few words put away for Republicans, somewhere.-
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bigurn1 year, 4 months ago
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Actually, I thought she was speaking to her supporters for most of the speech. And maybe her job wasn't to make Obama's case, but I was waiting for it.
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I believe I'm objective enough to be persuaded, but I don't see anyone trying beyond platitudes about feel-good topics.
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Goppy1 year, 4 months ago
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Now bigurn ... where did you learn your Civics?
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Barack Obama is qualified because MILLIONS of Americans selected him after long consideration during a long, tedious, hard fought contest.
Surely you must realize this.
It was just 6 years ago that my fellow Christian Conservatives preferred a different young man ....
-- a man vowed to mediocrity ....
-- a man who ducked out of his National Guard duty because of impending, mandatory drug testing ....
-- an admitted alcoholic ....
-- an admitted cocaine user ....
-- a stealer of land using Eminent Domain rather than a gun
-- a deficit spender
-- one who would lie to launch an arbitrary war
-- one who evaporates surpluses like a puddle in an Arizona parking lot
Now ... my friendly fellow Christian Conservatives have steadfastly supported this young man ... even in spite of his recklessness .... which could have been predicted ... given his choice of Mediocrity as a Lifestyle Choice.
Maybe we should all consider that someone with much higher intellectual discipline .... we can expect a LOT more than the DISASTROUS last eight years.-
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bigurn1 year, 4 months ago
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Goppy, you said "Barack Obama is qualified because MILLIONS of Americans selected him after long consideration during a long, tedious, hard fought contest."
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No, Goppy, that makes him the nominee. It says nothing about his qualifications for the Presidency.
And contrasting to Bush is not a logical argument, because the man isn't running. Also, it is not wise to suggest that one man is better because he didn't do all things that another man is done. What that points out is how little the other man has done. No one who has achieved greatness has avoided failure at some point.
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Mdiar1 year, 4 months ago
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I don't know why you were negged, either. Bill did a wonderful job in his speech. I tend to agree, he convinced alot of the fence-sitters from Hillary's camp, its just about whether Biden can keep his mouth shut for the most part now. Biden's speech was pretty nice... not hard to see what his role is going to be, hitting McCain and hitting him hard. In that light its fairly obvious why Biden was chosen and it was why I thought he'd choose him. When it comes to hitting McCain, Obama is like a pea-shooter, Hillary is like a rifle and Biden is like a small nuclear weapon.
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
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Agreed and I think she more than made up for her initial inability to accept her loss (something which I could relate to, btw). I also could see the passion of her supporters and I thought it was great that they were given a vip section of their own. Classy indeed. ;-P
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protoham1 year, 4 months ago
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/08/27/video-imperial-storm-troopers-in-action/
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not2needy1 year, 4 months ago
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I don't know why but for some reason Dell and my broadband provider advised me to not use Firefox. I had Firefox and was using it, then started having problems, that's when they told me to uninstall it and go back to IE! Haven't had a problem since.
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memestryker1 year, 4 months ago
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People were driving up the stats for their submissions and those of their friends with "me, too," "LOL," and the like. The propeller-heads are obviously trying to come up with algorithms and conditions that help the numbers mean something. Not an easy task.
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nikkibabe1 year, 4 months ago
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Great Joke.. Is it not hilarious that the TWIN cities will welcome and see together the 2 of the Republican celebrities? Oh, here is a line up of their stars:
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. Hail to the Thief Bush
. Torture in Chief Cheney
. Bush Poodle McCain
. Mormon in chief Romney
. 9'11 tattooed on my forehead Guiliani
. PIG from CT (someone give him a bath)
. Stevens of Alaska (will be wearing sheriff's monitoring electronic anklet)
. Sleaze Ball Karl Row (
. Alberto "Abu Ghraib" Gonzo
. Maniuplator in chief, RICE
. Liar in Chief Powell
...... and to think that these are the people who will help struggling middle class, good luck if you have decided to vote for them.-
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Candida1 year, 4 months ago
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Progressive: "Guess he's still angry that the Bush administration lied to him"
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They may have been lying to him, but I doubt that he was truly misled. The case he presented to the UN was a joke, and he probably could see it at least as much as I could. My guess is that that's why he looked so embarrassed while he was doing it.-
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cushi1 year, 4 months ago
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One thing is for sure, he knew he was lied to BEFORE the fiasco of electing Bush to a second term! That, for me, is what destroyed my respect for the man. He could've exposed that liar and his liar buddies in time for the dems to clinch the election, but he didn't. And look where the country is as a result!
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago
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that is going to be a dificult stage act.
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My suggestions:
I would have a really BIG stage, with McCain on one end, and Bush on the other, and a whole lot of potted plants in-between.
And have McCain hold something like a book or a fan so that everytime Bush spoke McCain could cover his face.
Oh, also maybe they could forget to let Bush know the date of the convention.
And give him the wrong address.
And lock the doors before he gets there.
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cushi1 year, 4 months ago
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I was extremely disappointed and incensed by some of her behavior during the primaries, but I feel she anted up and kicked in nicely in the end! Both she and Bill, and I do believe in large part that is do to Obama's winning ways as well. He has been nothing but understanding, gracious and considerate of their feelings throughout this whole process (of course, as the presumptive nominee, he could afford to be in all fairness). Still, I give her mad props for getting it right in the end.
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kUDOS to Hillary!!
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Charlson1 year, 4 months ago
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I watched her speech last night and thought she nailed it! And I really liked the laugh she got from her "Sisterhood of the Pantsuits" line. I think she gave her supporters enough reasons why they should support and vote Obama. NoCain is like Novocain, once it wears off you're still stuck with the pain.
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4cprocess1 year, 4 months ago
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Sorry to burst anyone's bubble here but for her to concede to the wishes of the party only took the women's movement back 40 years in my opinion.
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I'll give her this much though, and that is, it was a great speech but I know Hillary enough to know that is was not delivered without duress and I can only imagine what kind of "deal" she struck with the Obama folks that would make someone who clearly had her own message to capitulate.
Could it be possible that the head of DNC in Arkansas knew something? I'm not acusing anyone of something here, I just find it odd that out of all the states it was Arkansas.
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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You believe the women's movement was set back when Hillary, who had no chance at receiving the nomination, moved to support her party's nominee? Would it be a step forward for the women's movement if Hillary had come off as petty and bitter, bucking the wishes of the party to which she belongs, helping McCain (who's certainly no friend to women) in the coming election?
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As for duress...what do you suppose accounts for McCain's flip-flops on his past opposition to Bush? He opposed nearly all of Bush's policies six to eight years ago, and was viciously smeared by Bush's campaign in 2000. But now he falls in lockstep with EVERYTHING Bush supports.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago
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" I'm not acusing anyone of something here, I just find it odd "
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Can we get some kind of filter for that comment? It is beyond cliche, beyond spam, it approaches red and purple blinking text. And it is always, without fail, attached to a moronic post.
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memestryker1 year, 4 months ago
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George Soros and moveon.org went for Obama in February, so she probably didn't have a prayer--she did win the popular vote in the primary (without all states' delegates' votes being counted), but they didn't give the states all their votes back until it was agreed that she'd concede. They even said they weren't going to allow all the states and/or delegates to speak up in the nominating process, out of fear that she'd win. Soros is a rich bully, just like Michael Bloomberg, and his fingers are in so many pies, people don't even realize when he's pulling the strings.
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Bill and Hillary have lost and won before, and they know that politics is both a dirty and a funny business. I think they handled it professionally and really want the dems to win. Hillary may have her eye on a specific job in the Obama administration.
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getreal11 year, 4 months ago
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Hillary is trying to hold the democrat party together. I don't think they will thank her for it. Have you ever heard of make your negative a positive. Racism was the negative he used to gain recognition. He knew that the black race strives on being discriminated against. There are times when they will use discrimination when there is none. Obama has spent enough time in and around Congress to know the dirt.. That is more and likely how he got those super delegates to give over their votes so easily. She was trying to run a clean race. That was good opposite psychology letting Rev. Wright continue to show his black supremacy side. Change, We need other parties. That's the change America needed, more representation for the average people. Too bad they didn't split the Dem party and the republican party. As well off as Obama is he had to use affirmative action to take her votes. Of course he didn't have to ask. or say the words. I wonder what Obama knows on Richardson.? It will be most interesting when the truth comes out.. She is too much of a lady to play those games. He better be all he says he is.
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Beau78901 year, 4 months ago
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"Black supremacy"? You might take a hint from your member name.
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"Obama has spent enough time in and around Congress to know the dirt.. That is more and likely how he got those super delegates to give over their votes so easily."
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Spadecaller1 year, 4 months ago
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I must admit, getreal1... your comments are so far removed from reality that it is hard to use your member name with a straight face. For some time, I have noticed that when discussing any issue involving race, you invariably have something negative to say about people of color or about individuals, who happen to be black.
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It gives me no pleasure to convey this to you, as on other issues I have found common ground with you and have enjoyed sharing that. Regretfully, I must conclude that after evaluating this comment and many others like it, you simply do not care for people of color. Though I know that you will probably refuse to or will find yourself incapable of accepting this observation, my remarks do not come from anger or even intolerance of your apparent prejudices. They come from disappointment. -
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nonparted1 year, 4 months ago
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Change, We need other parties. That's the change America needed, more representation for the average people.
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getreal1 i really like this part from ur statement. too bad the majority of americans have their noses so far up the elephants and donkeys behind to see neither party is for the average american. -
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MajJohn1 year, 4 months ago
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Granted Hillary is trying to hold her party together. Nothing wrong with that. Racism is a part of this campaign, nothing can be done about that. It's a little nutty to claim that the Blacks want to be discriminated against. Why in the world... Some Black leadership may feel threatened that their position will no longer be needed, but for gosh sakes, who wants to be second class?. And blackmailing super delegates?? What's in your kool aide? Affirmative action to take her votes. Indeed, what did Hillary do in Florida and Michigan? Hillary a lady?? Get real!!
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cloud151 year, 4 months ago
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Not to go off topic, just no general convention stories up here.
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A little racial slip on the part of Jimmy Carter?
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=34615-
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Candida1 year, 4 months ago
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I don't think so. He started with a wave of approbation and admiration sweeping across the world. He was talking about him as a child, growing up with a loving mother and grandparents.
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How is it relevant anyway? Jimmy Carter is not running for president.-
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 4 months ago
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It is my opinion that bananas are good for you.
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It is my opinion that fat ladies in stripes still look fat.
It is my opinion that cats know more than they let on.
And it is my opinion that Jimmy Carter is probably one of the 10 really nice people who keep the judgement of heaven from falling upon the country.
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cloud151 year, 4 months ago
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Well thanks for sharing, I agree on the first three. (damn cats, always laying around just waiting to make their move.)
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I wasn't alive for the Carter years so i don't know too much about him other than the basics, so I'll take your word for it. -
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CHAM1 year, 4 months ago
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My wife was such an ardent Hillary supporter. We wonder about what might have been had she stepped up to the plate at her first opportunity after Obama secured enough pledges to win the nomination.
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What a great VP she could have been. Pride goeth before a fall.-
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willottica1 year, 4 months ago
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I was very disappointed when she decided she wanted to count the delegates from Michigan and Florida. It's childish to try to change the rules halfway through a race in order to eke out a win.
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If she really cared about the voters in Michigan and Florida, she would have been trying from the moment the DNC decided not to count their votes to have that decision reversed.
If she valued their votes and wanted them included, she should have been encouraging her fellow candidates to leave their names on the ballot in Michigan, and urging them all to continue to campaign in Florida. Instead, she thought she wouldn't need them, but hedged her bets by leaving hers as the only big name on the Michigan ticket, and by running ads in Florida. So she guaranteed herself meaningless (though potentially momentum-affecting) victories in the two states.
Only when it became clear that she would need those voters did she even try to get their voices heard, when the vote was over and in her favour and the danger to her from Obama was clear.
Even so, if she'd put her money where her mouth was, her campaign could have offered to pay for a revote in each state, but I think she was afraid that the overwhelming support she claimed there wouldn't materialize. Instead, she tried to make it seem that she wanted a revote, but didn't push it, preferring to try to get something for nothing (which she eventually did, but it didn't help her enough). -
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago
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Has it occurred to anyone here that Hillary and Obama might have made a "deal" that night they met so surreptitiously? Perhaps they agreed on another position for her, like a cabinet position. For example, as Secy. of Health, she would have a big say on her pet project -- a health care plan for us. And it would keep her in the national spotlight in preparation for her next presidential run.
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ConsAreNonGrata1 year, 4 months ago
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If the Democrats lose, we are seeing why in the Clintons.
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Clinton is toeing a very dangerous line, she has no desire to see Obama be President, but she cannot overtly bring him down because that would end her Presidential ambitions for all time.
Clinton supporters don't TRUST Obama? What do the THINK he is going to do? Policy will come from the Democratic Congress and Obama will go along with it for the most part.
I have no sympathy for Clinton or her supporters.
Clinton agreed to all the DNC rules, that included the fallout from Florida and Michigan's actions. There was no weighting by electoral map considerations.
Take out Michigan, where Obama was not even on the ballot, and Clinton loses the popular vote. Florida is skewed too anyway.
Clinton lost by agreed to rules.
But if some people who would rather put Clinton over country and give us four more years of neocon rule, by all means do it. I'm old enough that when I get drafted, they will use me in some stateside assignment while someone's kid gets sent to Iran to die.
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cleare1 year, 4 months ago
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of course you're right on, consnongrata...but i think we can afford to be as gracious as hillary appeared to be last night.
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i also just saw state after state defer to new york during the roll call and hillary came out and moved that the convention nominate obama immediately and a boisterously cheering concensus was affirmed. do not doubt that the democratic party is united and all resentment will fade by november.
i pondered at that moment too, about the power i saw as hillary proposed and speaker of the house nancy proceeded. we women have come a long way baby.
the clinton's time has come and gone and with luck, this week they will come to realize it. my only regret is that hillary isn't the ex president instead of bill...i always thought she'd do a better job.
i realized in 1992 that there was very little difference between the two parties in one regard at least, we were going into the "new world order" like it or not. the republicans have been dragging us kicking and screaming and the democrats are teasing us with a carrot. either way, we're going. except with obama i see some hope of redemption and a saner future for all.
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Tango571 year, 4 months ago
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Hillary gave a fantastic speech, pure class act!! Bravo! Ted Kennedy brought tears to my eyes the other night. What timing for the democrats. Teddy is dieing from cancer, yet hopefully he will live long enough to witness the election results. The Kennedys have spent their political lives fighting for the rights of all people. Truly historic...
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cleare1 year, 4 months ago
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i'm pretty fired up too, tango. but i was also pretty fired up 4 years ago. we've all got a lot of work to do. we must turn out the vote in november, especially all the newly registered. we'd also better volunteer to poll watch and keep an eye on those diebold voting machines. in fact, i suggest everyone use a paper ballot this time and make sure you have id and make sure ahead of time that your name is properly listed on the rolls. know where your precinct voting place is. if you need a ride, call your local dnc office and i'm sure they will be glad to give you a lift.
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america get off your behinds and do what needs to be done.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 4 months ago
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Hillary has a lot of Class to stand up there after the last 2 years and give such a great speech. All of her supporters need to realize that it is time to Unify the party for the sake of America's future.
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I hope that we can all come together in unity and heal this great country of ours. There is so much work to do undoing the damage that the Bush administration has done, our nation can't afford any more mistakes.
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Ratskii1 year, 4 months ago
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Ranchhand got the ax too. I agree that I'd like some indication of the manner in which they went over the line. I've seen some people make really outrageous posts without getting banned. Leaves me wondering, 'what the heck did they say?'
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memestryker1 year, 4 months ago
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Ranchhand posted an article directly from snopes that snopes showed as unsubstantiated since May, and his supporters propped it to the top. In the old days we could have reported it and it would have just been removed. I hope they give warnings--I'm not sure what their policy is. He's usually a good dude.
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago
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I really don't think the bans had anything to do with comments, or even that story. More likely it was sock puppets. It wasn't the first time for AG.
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Anyway, she was already back an hour afterwards, under another name. Same MO. ;-)
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bluetexasvalley1 year, 4 months ago
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I agree with all your words. And may I add that I thought Joe Biden was great, too. He even brought me to tears when he talked about his growing-up years and his parents. Of course, Michelle Obama did the same talking about her father.
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