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Posted By not2needy 1 year, 2 months ago in NewsBeau, I love you. I am so proud of you. Proud of the son you are. Proud of the father you've become. And I'm so proud of my son Hunter, my daughter Ashley, and my wife Jill, the only one who leaves me breathless and speechless at the same time.
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not2needy1 year, 2 months ago
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FSU92grad1 year, 2 months ago
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um...Mitt Romney will be selcted and when he is, you guys are toast....
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In fact, Osama is going to regret ever picking a "has been" like Biden...
I'll give you that Biden is an excellent debator, but Romney would eat his lunch during a VP debate....
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Charlson1 year, 2 months ago
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FSU92grad1 year, 2 months ago
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um....I think you need to look at your own party who are filthy rich and support Osama
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Gore, Kerry, George Soros, Pelosi, Edwards
So, you might want to make sure you know what your're talking about BEFORE you make an a$$ of yourself....
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Charlson1 year, 2 months ago
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A statement was made about a debate between Romney and Biden and not any of the others you mentioned. But even those filthy rich people support Obama's taxes for the rich and tax cuts for the poor and middle class.
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So, you might want to make sure you know what you're talking about BEFORE you make an a$$ of yourself.... mr. graduate. -
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 2 months ago
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You do a pretty good job of making an a$$ of yourself....Romney is good with numbers and debating. BUT don't you think his Mormon religion is going to alienate evangelicals, whom McCain has a patchy relationship with at best?
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Lurch1 year, 2 months ago
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Romney and McCain had many good arguments against each other in the primaries. I hope that Romney is the choice. It would be hilarious to see McCain squirm at how he used Biden`s primary arguments against Obama but that the Dems using Romney statements against McCain are not fair.
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Besides, Romney sucked in the Republican primary debates. He got his arse reamed. Who says he is good at debates? That has never been his forte. Romney forte is talking to a camera with no one around to challenge his BS. Of course that applies to the entire RW.-
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lbrtyordeath1 year, 2 months ago
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Well, I've only seen McCain and Romney debate once, but the one I saw, McCain used some sort of statistic against Romney, and Romney countered with a seemingly endless barrage of statistics and facts against McCain and concluded with something like, "Facts are tricky things, Mr. McCain" or something to that effect. I was pretty impressed.
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Of course, that's just a one time judgement.
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skunalis1 year, 2 months ago
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i think you need to learn a little bit about the world before posting horse s*it. i don't recall dems making enormous oil deals with the saudis, i don't remember dems trying to sell our ports to dubai, and i sure as hell don't remember dems trying to fund a BS war to create more terrorists by borrowing money from china.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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If you cons had any sense at all, you'd realize that in an election year strongly favoring Democrats, the worse the "Dem Congress" performs, the uglier November is going to turn out for Republicans. Once again, no matter which party is in control of Congress, the approval rating is a reflection of the job performance of the entire Congress. Republicans still poll worse than Democrats (partly because the GOP has spent the last two years record filibustering Democrats and partly because of Bush's disgraceful failure, shocking incompetence and the uncovering of more and more administrations lies and crime by the day). And why do you think you should be gloating over the fact that you're paying your elected officials to do nothing? That's kinda twisted, IMO. ;-(
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Not a christian zionist israel-firster are you? Condi sold out America for her own personal profit long ago.
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Condi Rice and the Neocon Plan for the Palestinians
... Condi Rice is likely the least qualified Secretary of State in recent history, especially considering her field of expertise is the Soviet Union, a political non-entity. However, since Washington is all about who you know--or suck up to--Rice is an appropriate selection for the Bushcons, considering she was a tenured professor of political science at Stanford, stomping grounds for the Hoover Institution, a neocon "public policy research center," on occasion referred to as Bush's "brain trust." Between 1985 and 1986, Condi was a national fellow at the Hoover Institution....
.... It should be remembered that Rice, as a Christian Zionist, disclosed a "deep bond to Israel" back in 2003. "I first visited Israel in 2000," Rice told the Jewish Press on May 13, 2003. "I already then felt that I am returning home despite the fact that this was a place I never visited. I have a deep affinity with Israel. I have always admired the history of the State of Israel and the hardness and determination of the people that founded it," apparently as well admiring the "hardness" of the Israeli settler movement, the crown jewel of all things Likudite. "I think that we, Israel and the U.S., share common values. Israel is the only democracy in the region," a democracy that has locked 2,896,000 Palestinians (as of 1997) into the world's largest open-air prison and has strived unhindered to further turn their shrinking geography into Bantustans....-
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Of course, as a neocon acolyte, Condi Rice is not interested in peace in the Middle East, least of all between the Palestinians and Israelis, and even less so then her predecessor, who was often at odds with the Bushcon "crazies," as he so famously called them. Rice's Hoover Institution is closely aligned with other neocon foundations, including the Project for a New American Century and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, the latter particularly rabid in its opposition to any meaningful resolution of the conflict--that is to say, Israel's theft and occupation of Palestinian land--and continually cranks out propaganda designed to demonize not only the Palestinians, but Arabs and Muslims in general....
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...As should be obvious to all who pay attention, the Bush administration, in regard to the Middle East, is a mirror reflection of the Likudites in Israel, who are fanatically opposed to the establishment of a Palestinian state and will "adopt immediate stringent measures in the event of such a declaration," as their political platform states. As well, the colonization of the West Bank and Gaza "are the realization of Zionist values" and the theft of Palestinian land "is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel ...
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Dionys1 year, 2 months ago
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Mitt Romney believes that Joseph Smith found some magic golden tablets which he then translated with the help of some Holy translator rocks in a magic hat.
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I'd take Frosty any day over Romney and so would anyone who believes a VP should have a firm grounding in REALITY. -
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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Actually I think what you saw exit the building was the imploding GOP's last desperate hope that Hillary would be on the ticket. So what we end up with on the one hand is a Presidential nominee who, after his first wife was badly injured in a car accident, treated her like an old used up flea infested mattress before cheating on her and then dumping her for a repulsive but obscenely wealthy bleach blonde drug-addicted shrew who applies make up by trowel each morning (and yet somehow manages to look even worse than she does without it) and on the other hand you have a VP nominee who lost his first wife and daughter in an terrible accident and went on to raise his two surviving children himself. Tough call. ;-x
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Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago
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Actually, on this there are valid reasons as to why its not possible. The population densities are quite different. Its not really that fair to force my closest city (which is an hour or so away and its not even a large one) to sustain a mass transit system for here. For the most part, in Europe, decently sized cities aren't that far apart. Here, I live in the biggest place within at least 50 miles and its a town with a grand population of 16,000.
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In the Bosnywash area, it makes alot of sense though. As well as in most major metro areas.-
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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Thanks, Mdiar. I was comparing apples to apples. There are lots of urban areas across the country where the transportation system is decent to great (like here in DC where I live) but overall, I think we're slackers by comparison (because we're so addicted to our cars). For instance, we have our metro here but it's not really a true subway system (like in NYC which I think has one of the best systems I've ever travelled on) and it doesn't. Where is our high speed cross country rail system comparable to those in other industrialized nations? Yes, European countries are way smaller than we are but there is no excuse for us to be lagging behind if we're supposed to be all that. I don't like that people can brag about our military but not our education or transportation infrastructure. ;-( America is great but we can do way better is all I'm saying.
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Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago
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I prefer to brag about the ethnic diversity, myself. Our education isn't as bad as some people make it out to be, in my experience, at least it isn't something the federal government can address that much. The only thing the federal level government can do is institute a health care program and paid vacation laws like those in Europe to make it easier to take part in a child's education. The first few years of my schooling (until 6th grade or so) my parents were still in college so I had quite a bit of interest in my schooling from my parents. On this issue, in alot of ways the Democratic mindset is a problem as much as the Republican one. I think the Democrats keep trying to address the symptoms and the Republicans, while they do try to address the source, can't (due to their own philosophy) address the real issue- people just can't afford to pay much attention to how there kid is being schooled unless you have the right job or are superhuman. I'd like to nationalize the school systems and grant community control over most aspects of it, though certain quality requirements would have to be in place.
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On the Europe part, you'd be very surprised the differences as well as the similarities, I think. America has alot of aspects I solidly prefer to Europe, even though I'm rather far left in my own ideology. I prefer to take the best of each and throw them together.
Americans are very lazy when it comes to mass transit, not because we love cars so much (we do, though, its part of the culture in a way that its not in Europe) but because our government is lazy. Americans are among the hardest working people in the world and I've always thought that was a good thing. Also, government is really afraid to build any kind of government run thing. Its part of the Calvinistic philosophy that a large part of the country was founded on, I suppose.-
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Actually America had lots of public transport systems prior to General Motors buying them up and closing them down in the 1930s.
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As for population differences, the density in Europe is on average not so different than the US. Where trains and metros don't make sense, there is usually a public bus system (sometimes run privately with public subsidy) that will take you to any tiny village.
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 2 months ago
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Well, maybe Obama's opponent hasn't picked a VP yet...
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Conflicting stories...it was reported that the campaign for Obama's opponent had settled on a VP Wednesday night (8.27), but as of today (8.28, 1:00 EST), Obama's opponent told a Pennsylvania radio station this morning that he hasn't picked a VP candidate yet.
Maybe a VP was picked Wednesday night, but maybe Obama's opponent has forgotten it...
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 2 months ago
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Update...7:30 EST...
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Now Obama's opponent says he has picked a candidate, and Minnesota's Gov Pawlenty cancelled all appointments for the afternoon and evening.
A ploy to distract us? Surely not Pawlenty...I'm still holding out for Tom Ridge...
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 2 months ago
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For all the hoopla about division, the Democratic party isn't as petty and dumb as MSM has been claiming. They seem to easily see the bigger picture and easily, graciously unite putting any personal issues behind, and working toward the good of the nation. Kudos. Well done.
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TimALoftis1 year, 2 months ago
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Beau's introduction of his Father was very moving...good speech by biden but was not well delivered...Biden seemed rushed. I loved Kerry's even though most of the networks did not carry it. CNN did show about half of it. Thank goodness for PBS and C-SPAN.
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Lurch1 year, 2 months ago
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Oh that delivery was awesome!
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That `he was for it before he was against it` line was probably my favorite of the convention so far! He nailed it and nailed McCain.
How many of McCain`s own laws/bills has McCain broken or flipped on now? Amazing that anybody believes he still has credibility at all!-
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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What I loved most was seeing Bill Clinton being genuinely moved by that lengthy standing ovation he got and then giving one of his usual hammy deliveries (one of the reasons I love to listen to his speeches). I think Kerry is very smart and he probably writes very well but he doesn't do well in terms of shifting tones. Nice to see him having fun for a change.
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Charlson1 year, 2 months ago
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YOU MUST BE A REPUBLICAN (with apology to Foxworthy)
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If you weren't inspired by the Kennedyisc line of "America leading the world with the power of example rather than the example of power" that Bill Clinton spoke, YOU MUST BE A REPUBLICAN that rules and leads by fear.
If you weren't moved by the inspiring story of Joe Biden's loss and sacrifice for family, YOU MUST BE A REPUBLICAN with no heart.
And if you can't wait to hear for Obama's call for change in his acceptance speech, YOU MUST BE A REPUBLICAN who's satisfied with the stagnation and decline of America by Bush and his surrogate McCain.-
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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What change? Obama has kowtowed to the same zionist DLC circles that gave us isreal-firsters like Liebeman. Obama has NOT shown the kind of leadership that our great presidents embody. Once again Americans are faced with choosing between bad and worse candidates sprung upon us by a corrupt elite.
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JFK Was Enraged at 'Zionist Control' Effected by Campaign Contributions
.... 'As an American citizen he was outraged,' Bartlett recalled, 'to have a Zionist group come to him and say: "We know your campaign is in trouble. We're willing to pay your bills if you'll let us have control of your Middle East policy.'" Kennedy, as a presidential candidate, also resented the crudity with which he'd been approached. 'They wanted control,' he angrily told Bartlett....
... JFK wanted a nuclear-free near east with inspectors at Dimona and a resolution to the Palestinian refugee problem (which would be a policy based on American interests or perhaps even regional or international interests). I don't think his patrons liked those ideas much. they wanted a policy based on Israel's interests. and as they say, when you pay the piper, you call the tune....
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/jfk-was-enraged-at-zionist-control-through-crucial-campaign-contributions.html
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pcknowledge1 year, 2 months ago
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Excellent speeches by both Clinton's. Let's take America back and make it the greatest Nation in the world which it has always been.
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Excellent speech by Biden. Biden said it all, when he said Obama is right and has been all along. Al Qaeda and the Taliban have re grouped in Afghanistan and the mountain areas between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Iraq war needs to come to an end and the Iraqis need to take charge of their own country. People who still want to vote for McCain don't know anything about the Middle East regions, foreign politics, our economy, or our healthcare system which needs improvement. McCain will drive this country further into a recession, continue the Iraq war indefinetly, and ruin the greatest country in the world. -
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AntiNeoCon1 year, 2 months ago
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It is a mystery to me why McCain is still in this race. For heavens sake, haven't the american people been abused enough over the last 8 years? Who the hell in their right mind would want another republican president at this time? The republicans don't like him either, but they must hold their nose and vote for this guy because they always vote party line.
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If you can't figure it out Cons, maybe you should try to watch those speech reruns with a more open mind.
It was interesting to watch Faux News trash the events as they happened, it helped me understand why I don't want four more years of these mindless dweebs running our country.-
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not2needy1 year, 2 months ago
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I don't think republicans will think that Americans have been abused enough until they have every copper penny ever minted in their greedy little palms and turn the rest of us into slaves so they can start amassing foreign monies as well. Just my opinion, but i'm entitled to it, i guess.
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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Biden certainly isn't a great orator, and I still disagree about the whole Georgia thing, but I know I'm a small minority on that, so whatever. I don't really expect the VP who is supposed to bring 'strong National Security Credentials' to admit that there are 2 sides to the story. I'm not pro-Russia, don't know any Russians. But I am pro-objectivity, and I think the world has been subjected to good vs. evil absolutism for far too long. I would really like to see a world where everyone is an ally. Unfortunately, there's a very pervasive school of thought that says that you have to ally AGAINST something, when allying FOR something should be just as possible.
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I think he seems like a good choice to ensure the vote, and I think he seems like a smart enough man to know where and when his voice is needed. American foreign interests are obviously a vital concern for the American government, and they should be. I think his voice will ensure that Obama doesn't get too focused on global good and forget the country that he represents.-
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miklkit1 year, 2 months ago
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The biggest clue that I got as to what was going on in Georgia was, when the Russians went in, the Georgians were saying "Where are the Americans?" like they were expecting us to back their play. We pulled our Marines out of there just before it all went to pieces. It looks like a setup, and the republicons have done this before.
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Georgia was all about domestic politics in the US from the very beginning. Think of it as an "october surprise" in august. However, remember that Biden is also part of the zioncon circles and visited Georgia shortly before the zioncon games started off by killing more civilians than the Serbs killed in Kosovo.
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Bush's War in Georgia
Washington's bloody fingerprints are all over the invasion of South Ossetia. Georgia President Saakashvili would never launch a massive military attack without explicit orders from his bosses at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Saakashvili owes his entire political career to NeoCon power-brokers and US intelligence agencies.
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willottica1 year, 2 months ago
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"remember that Biden is also part of the zioncon circles"
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You make them sound like crop circles, and people lend about as much credence to your posts. I've suggested before that your continued use of a term that people don't understand is counterproductive. I may tell you again, but it would be far better if you were to just explain it better (yes, I know it takes more time, but makes you less dismissable.)
As for Biden, I agree, I don't trust his foreign policy. He doesn't improve the ticket in my eyes, but it's not my eyes that matter. If he can provide a boost to Obama and get him elected, I have confidence that Obama will at least attempt to see through the "zioncon" manipulations.-
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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The sad thing about the censorship of American media is that years after the zioncons started the Iraq war for israel and oil, much of the American public is still being suckered by exactly the same zionist liars. Unfortunately, they are in both parties. How many Americans know that 56% of all appointees made by Clinton were jewish and that many of them were also supporters of zionist ethnic cleansing of millions of christians and moslems (the world's biggest refugee problem). Imagine the US (Clinton) importing an Australian zionist (Martin Indyk), making him a citizen in weeks and then appointing him as our special representative to the mideast.
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The problem is not new. How many americans know that Kennedy complained bitterly about zionist attempts to buy control of American foreign policy in the mideast?
JFK Was Enraged at 'Zionist Control' Effected by Campaign Contributions
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/07/jfk-was-enraged-at-zionist-control-through-crucial-campaign-contributions.html
The positive signs are that (a) increasing numbers of jews speak out about zionist crimes against humanity in Palestine, and (b) a majority of Americans now say that the US should NOT support Israel against the Palestinians.
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Charlson1 year, 2 months ago
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The commentators on MSNBC stated that Biden had to mesh his speech with his own speech writer and the one supplied by Obama's campaign staff so it's understandable that he may have had a little trouble delivering his lines. But the substance and content to most of his speech was right on. Oh, maybe "right" is not the best word to use in this circumstance, maybe dead on is better. Well, you know what I mean.
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beavith11 year, 2 months ago
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jeez. i wander into this thread to look for thoughtful discussion of the speeches and find myself in a democratic masturbatorium.
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i get it. you feel energized and powerful. good for you. in any of those speeches was anything substantive said? i could only stomache a few minutes at a time, but i saw nothing except the same thing i see cheerleaders do on the sidelines at a football game. dance and yell. yell and dance.
that Biden smile.... wasn't it the same one the alien offered at the end of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind?" i knew Spielberg was a dem, but i didn't know he was putting his characters up for office. for that matter, the way his neck is craned he looks like ET, another Spielberg creation. could be worse, S could have given us "Jaws" as a candidate. : )-
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Charlson1 year, 2 months ago
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"jeez. i wander into this thread to look for thoughtful discussion of the speeches and find myself in a democratic masturbatorium."
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Sorry about all that masturbating, I know it's considered a sin in some "right-wing" religious circles, and even akin to abortion. But you ought to be glad. Because if we had been procreating we may have created many more babies that may grow up and vote democratic. -
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Lurch1 year, 2 months ago
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> vote republican in 11/08!
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Why?
Let`s be honest here. No working class American has a thing to gain by voting for McCain. Nothing.
A vote for Obama means no more counter-productive and unnecessary war. Fiscal responsibility. Vastly improved healthcare for us, and not just John McCain. Real tax breaks for us for once - we`re way overdue! Alternative energy for real - alternative energy does mean drilling for oil in different locations. And also terribly important, a vote for Obama means smaller government and a return to constitutional government.-
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beavith11 year, 2 months ago
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you're just buying the democrap line. they'll say anything to get elected.
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do you think they give a crap about the 'working class american?' so the dems are fighting for the proletariat against the bourgeoise? ha. does that make the dems communist? what you're spouting is nothing less than class warfare
do you think that O is going to pull out of iraq? walk away from afghanistan? fund real tax breaks, by robbing the rich? alternative energy that's more expensive than oil? who do you think is going to get hurt more by expensive energy? what democrat has EVER stood for smaller gov't? despite the constant whining and hand wringing about our vast loss of constitutional rights, have you seen any constitutional changes in your life or anyone you know? anyone you've heard of? read about? i'm FAR more concerned about things like Kelo vs New London.
you've been had.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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"in any of those speeches was anything substantive said?"
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Thanks for the constructive criticism but it would be more constructive if you gave us examples of superior speeches (particularly ones by those you've supported in the past) and then compared and contrasted examples. All you say in your post is that the speeches weren't meaningful. As far as I'm concerned, that could mean that you didn't comprehend them. What's criteria are you using or what bases of comparison. I look forward to a thoughtful discussion and exchange on the topic. ;-)-
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beavith11 year, 2 months ago
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OMG! a real discussion. not a head bobbing dem coffee klatch!
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really, the speeches do nothing for me, both dem or pub. its the policies that the candidates espouse.
as i sit here and watch BO talking about how hard it is being a regular blue collar american, i can see through the hypocrisy. he talks about education but sends his kids to private school. he talks about a waitress having a day off to care for her sick kid. he talks about hard work and pulling his parents pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, but he offers benefits to others that have never been federally offered before. he talks about small business owners as the backbone of america, yet by raising taxes on the 'wealthy' he's also whacking the bejeebees out of those small business. 5 million hypothetical alternative energy jobs that will be at the expense of the poor.
urk! more teachers at higher salaries. scary. think that might be a bone thrown to the unions? federal funding of college education? all that does is put college pricing on an upwardly ratcheting treadmill.
comprehend them? oh yeah. i comprehend them all too well.
i feel that i'm trapped in a time warp going back to restore the legacy of the 70s.
a dem retrenchment on Bush's tax cuts will blow up the economy just the same as if Barry pushes the plunger himself.
if McC gets a black eye, its for trying to appeal to too many people all the time. it dilutes his image. Barry, after all this time campaigning, is an empty vessel that people want to pour their hopes and dreams into.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
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"really, the speeches do nothing for me, both dem or pub. its the policies that the candidates espouse."
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--ROTFLMAO--Beav (is this AG?) you are absolutely FOS and you know it. That's not what you said in the post I responded to. You said:
"jeez. i wander into this thread to look for thoughtful discussion of the speeches and find myself in a democratic masturbatorium."
--Now suddenly speeches "do nothing" for you? And why should they when you don't even bother to watch or listen to them? So which is it, beav? Because it sounds to me like you're absolutely lying through your teeth. In your response above, you don't even mention the speeches from last night which are being discussed here today. Why is that, beav? Isn't it because all you're really here to do is SLAM Obama, Democrats and Liberals? I think it is. In fact, that's exactly what you did in response to my invitation which had NOTHING to do with either Obama or his platform. Obama didn't even give a speech last night but you're such a johnny one-note that you couldn't resist and opportunity to broadcast your hatred for him (which is rooted in ignorance since you freely admit that you don't even bother to listen to everything he has to say.
You don't care about speeches or even a two-way discussion. You're here to broadcast YOUR toxic partisan point of view to anyone who will listen. I knew you were lying from the moment I saw that whiny post but now I've exposed your true motives, beav and maybe I can save a few others from wasting their time reading or responding to your CRAP.
Have a nice day. ;-)-
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beavith11 year, 2 months ago
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yeah. i caught that screwed up 'speech' context thing after i hit reply. i'm fairly new to propeller. i guess you only get one chancee to edit?
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i should've said something like "anything more substantive than speech blather."
as to being AG, nope. i'm just me.
i struggled through O's speech last night. i guess i AM here to slam O, dems and libs. basically because the discussion(s) are so blasted vapid.
as far as hating O, no, i don't hate him. he champions "change" but is awful light on details. the details he does give on energy and taxes are lousy. the dems? they won the elections in 2006 by running on the 'i'm not republican' plank. that was enough then for them to win. since then the Pelosi Reid congress has done worse than nothing. they have no overarching plan.
what we have is a party bereft of good ideas and an empty suit running for president .
lying? me? no again. i'd say we are about 180 degrees apart on the political spectrum though.
true motives? LOL! i wading in a democratic party pool. i don't expect any love.
weirdly enough, i could be convinced to vote for certain policies, but first they have to make sense.
IMHO, very few of the dem policies make any sense at all. at this point, the republicans, damn them, make more sense.
sue me.
have yourself a nice day 8 )
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
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But, Bea, above, cheerleading is in part what the convention--what any convention--is about.
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It's about rallying the troops, and in that regard the Dems behaved beautifully. Finally, it seemed as if the party stepped forward,without the whipped-puppy, going-in-multiple-directions-at-once affect/effect it's unfortunately too often prone to display.
Even O. seemed relaxed, happy and open. Let's hope this was the beginning of a new, non-looking-over-one's-shoulder beginning.-
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questionseverything1 year, 2 months ago
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joe biden has been a senator for 30 yrs and is only worth about a hundred and fifty grand...obviously he HASNT been sucking up that lobbyist money MCSAME loves so well
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ya thats right mcsame wifes charge card bill for ONE MONTH is more than joe biden is worth
joe biden represents the working class,something a pampered admirals son knows zilch about-
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
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Joe Biden is one of the "most favored sons" of AIPAC, who have supported his career throughout. Joe sold out America for his own personal gain long ago. Unfortunately both of our parties are severely sick with this disease.
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Why Bush Will Pardon AIPAC for Espionage
A trial would be a very healthy process for determining whether powerful Washington think tanks and corporate news personalities blithely trafficking in our most sensitive national defense information for their own profit should ever be held accountable. But in the waning days of the Bush administration, short-circuiting public accountability for war decisions and the system that produces them is now the overriding doctrine. The pressure is on.
http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/08/20/why-bush-will-pardon-aipac-for-espionage/
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Rick78x1 year, 2 months ago
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Joe Biden the right pick? Come out of your matrix, folks. Yeah, he's the right choice if your either ignorant or a proponent of global enslavement. Do your research sheople. Here's a little help:
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Rick78x1 year, 2 months ago
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I think the NEO-CON-victs have tripped over the psychological precipice into madness and desperation. They have created an irriversible, destructive economic, political and social vortex in America (which has engulfed all other nations as well) and they do not know how to get it under control. This may have been ‘part’ of their agenda, but I do not think it ‘was’ the entire plan. Not to this degree this swiftly, and along with the fact that many have been awakened to their evilness. Now, their left with the only option seen through the lens of madness, which is suicide. My prediction is they are going to attack Iran, first (before the elections, especially if it looks like McCain won’t win. Though in the long run it doesn’t matter.) Then, some kind of false-flag will be commited via-Georgia or some where in that region, and that will pull Russia into the fray. Either way these rabid-mad dogs seem hell bent on global suicide in lieu of global control.
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